Olympics All Format Spoiler Thread

Lanterne_Rogue · August 2021

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.

By that logic any running race over 400m is a waste of time as you just end up running past your starting point. Ditto swimming over 100m. And why bother running anyway? What's all the rushing for? Bring back the motor boating and hot air ballooning medals, I say.

jam1e · August 2021

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.

Are you not familiar with the ludicrousness of the swimming?

Front crawl - standard running
Backstroke - running backwards - bit odd but nevermind
Breaststroke - a bit like skipping maybe?
Butterfly - hopping?

bobmcstuff · August 2021

Lanterne_Rogue said:

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
By that logic any running race over 400m is a waste of time as you just end up running past your starting point. Ditto swimming over 100m. And why bother running anyway? What's all the rushing for? Bring back the motor boating and hot air ballooning medals, I say.

Or why run anywhere when cycling is faster, if it needs to be human-powered... We could see some pretty fast marathon times...

To be fair this is my logic when it comes to running - cycling is just better so why bother.

Lanterne_Rogue · August 2021

bobmcstuff said:

Lanterne_Rogue said:

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
By that logic any running race over 400m is a waste of time as you just end up running past your starting point. Ditto swimming over 100m. And why bother running anyway? What's all the rushing for? Bring back the motor boating and hot air ballooning medals, I say.
Or why run anywhere when cycling is faster, if it needs to be human-powered... We could see some pretty fast marathon times...

To be fair this is my logic when it comes to running - cycling is just better so why bother.

Or public transport of course. Just imagine it in three year's time...

"There was chaos in today's 500km TGV event when all forty competitors - who travelled together - were awarded exactly the same time."

focuszing723 · August 2021

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.

What if you were walking on a canal path, tripped, fell in and to compound matters an angry swan happened to be in your vicinity?

Personally, I would be wishing I was a competitive swimmer whilst I was been pecked at!

focuszing723 · August 2021

I bet you've never been pecked at by and angry swan.

TheBigBean · August 2021

Lanterne_Rogue said:

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
By that logic any running race over 400m is a waste of time as you just end up running past your starting point. Ditto swimming over 100m. And why bother running anyway? What's all the rushing for? Bring back the motor boating and hot air ballooning medals, I say.

I did say that most sport doesn't make much sense. Swimming in a pool with someone walking alongside is in same category as rowing. Deliberately making something less inefficient. Open water swims make more sense.

JimD666 · August 2021

Is it only ES1 and 2 that have commentary? Watching the pole vault on the ES player and its silent. Wouldn't as bad if there was crowd noise

focuszing723 · August 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVlOL0WSFvM

First.Aspect · August 2021

TheBigBean said:

Lanterne_Rogue said:

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
By that logic any running race over 400m is a waste of time as you just end up running past your starting point. Ditto swimming over 100m. And why bother running anyway? What's all the rushing for? Bring back the motor boating and hot air ballooning medals, I say.
I did say that most sport doesn't make much sense. Swimming in a pool with someone walking alongside is in same category as rowing. Deliberately making something less inefficient. Open water swims make more sense.

No, humans can't breathe water.

Diving is just competitive suicide by drowning for that matter.

Football is merely kicking a pigs bladder. Rugby is just football for fat kids.

Pole vault is just the absence of a ladder.

Don't even get me started on gymnastics. How did that start? A test of evading grizzly bears?

daniel_b · August 2021

First.Aspect said:

yorkshireraw said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
Athletics equivalent of breastroke. Do this thing but don't do it the fastest way.
Well you know you can't have too many swimming medals now can you? Hiw else would Australia get high up in the medals table?

In a moment of boredom I counted the swimming medals on offer - iirc there were 34!

Could be wrong, but around twice the next nearest sport I would have thought.

Would love to see more disciplines, and distances in the velodrome, I know we lost a fair few in recent years as they cut it back, and (rightly) ensured parity between men and women.

tailwindhome · August 2021

bobmcstuff said:

Lanterne_Rogue said:

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
By that logic any running race over 400m is a waste of time as you just end up running past your starting point. Ditto swimming over 100m. And why bother running anyway? What's all the rushing for? Bring back the motor boating and hot air ballooning medals, I say.
Or why run anywhere when cycling is faster, if it needs to be human-powered... We could see some pretty fast marathon times...

To be fair this is my logic when it comes to running - cycling is just better so why bother.

So... Triathletes... They get off a perfectly good bicycle and run for 10 k....what's that all about then?

First.Aspect · August 2021

daniel_b said:

First.Aspect said:

yorkshireraw said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
Athletics equivalent of breastroke. Do this thing but don't do it the fastest way.
Well you know you can't have too many swimming medals now can you? Hiw else would Australia get high up in the medals table?
In a moment of boredom I counted the swimming medals on offer - iirc there were 34!

Could be wrong, but around twice the next nearest sport I would have thought.

Would love to see more disciplines, and distances in the velodrome, I know we lost a fair few in recent years as they cut it back, and (rightly) ensured parity between men and women.

Of you want more medals in cycling all you would get is more bollocks like mixed team unicycling or something.

JimD666 · August 2021

First.Aspect said:

daniel_b said:

First.Aspect said:

yorkshireraw said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
Athletics equivalent of breastroke. Do this thing but don't do it the fastest way.
Well you know you can't have too many swimming medals now can you? Hiw else would Australia get high up in the medals table?
In a moment of boredom I counted the swimming medals on offer - iirc there were 34!

Could be wrong, but around twice the next nearest sport I would have thought.

Would love to see more disciplines, and distances in the velodrome, I know we lost a fair few in recent years as they cut it back, and (rightly) ensured parity between men and women.
Of you want more medals in cycling all you would get is more bollocks like mixed team unicycling or something.

I've been trying to figure out if there was a mixed race possibility on the track and the best I could think of is a Mixed Madison, then realised the amount of likely crashes due to speed differences could be catastrophic.

daniel_b · August 2021

Dorset_Boy said:
Gold for Matt Walls in the Omnium

Kiwi managed to take a lap, making the catch on the last lap of the race to snatch silver from Viviani!

That was a great ride - didn't realise Walls rides for Bora, though don't recall hearing his name mentioned in any races I have watched.
EDIT: Biggest race he has done this year seems to be the Tour de Suisse.
3 year contract from 2020 - signed as a sprinter, learn off Bennett perhaps?
Walls and Hayter in the Madison have to be podium contenders.

daniel_b · August 2021

JimD666 said:

First.Aspect said:

daniel_b said:

First.Aspect said:

yorkshireraw said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
Athletics equivalent of breastroke. Do this thing but don't do it the fastest way.
Well you know you can't have too many swimming medals now can you? Hiw else would Australia get high up in the medals table?
In a moment of boredom I counted the swimming medals on offer - iirc there were 34!

Could be wrong, but around twice the next nearest sport I would have thought.

Would love to see more disciplines, and distances in the velodrome, I know we lost a fair few in recent years as they cut it back, and (rightly) ensured parity between men and women.
Of you want more medals in cycling all you would get is more bollocks like mixed team unicycling or something.
I've been trying to figure out if there was a mixed race possibility on the track and the best I could think of is a Mixed Madison, then realised the amount of likely crashes due to speed differences could be catastrophic.

Mixed team sprint could work.
2 of them going out first from the gate as per usual, the other 2 circling the track, and timing their effort to cross the line just a second behind the 2nd rider from the first two crosses the line.
They then ride it as a 2, with the 4th rider riding to the finish.

They would be the only 4 riders on the track, so no chance of getting tangled up with other riders.

But no, to be honest I was thinking more about expanding the omnium back to what it used to be, plus bringing back the Kilo, a 4km individual pursuit, and the crowd pleaser that is the elimination or devil race.
Having watched Laura Trott in Glasgow a good few years ago now, that was probably the race that caught the attention of the crowd the most.

I appreciate it exists within the omnium already, but then it doesn't stop the decathlon existing alongside all of the other disciplines in athletics which are standalone, so don't see it as a counter argument myself.

salsiccia1 · August 2021

I LOVE the hockey shoot-out format (and the Aussies not winning it...)

JimD666 · August 2021

daniel_b said:

JimD666 said:

First.Aspect said:

daniel_b said:

First.Aspect said:

yorkshireraw said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
Athletics equivalent of breastroke. Do this thing but don't do it the fastest way.
Well you know you can't have too many swimming medals now can you? Hiw else would Australia get high up in the medals table?
In a moment of boredom I counted the swimming medals on offer - iirc there were 34!

Could be wrong, but around twice the next nearest sport I would have thought.

Would love to see more disciplines, and distances in the velodrome, I know we lost a fair few in recent years as they cut it back, and (rightly) ensured parity between men and women.
Of you want more medals in cycling all you would get is more bollocks like mixed team unicycling or something.
I've been trying to figure out if there was a mixed race possibility on the track and the best I could think of is a Mixed Madison, then realised the amount of likely crashes due to speed differences could be catastrophic.
Mixed team sprint could work.
2 of them going out first from the gate as per usual, the other 2 circling the track, and timing their effort to cross the line just a second behind the 2nd rider from the first two crosses the line.
They then ride it as a 2, with the 4th rider riding to the finish.

They would be the only 4 riders on the track, so no chance of getting tangled up with other riders.

But no, to be honest I was thinking more about expanding the omnium back to what it used to be, plus bringing back the Kilo, a 4km individual pursuit, and the crowd pleaser that is the elimination or devil race.
Having watched Laura Trott in Glasgow a good few years ago now, that was probably the race that caught the attention of the crowd the most.

I appreciate it exists within the omnium already, but then it doesn't stop the decathlon existing alongside all of the other disciplines in athletics which are standalone, so don't see it as a counter argument myself.

TBH I was semi joking about a mixed event in the cycling. I do however fully support and endorse all the other suggestions you've made.

RichN95. · August 2021

salsiccia1 said:
I LOVE the hockey shoot-out format (and the Aussies not winning it...)

It was great that they got to lose twice

elbowloh · August 2021

If anyone saw the 46 year old grey haired dude in the skateboarding, here's his story

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/05/dallas-oberholzer-the-46-year-old-olympic-skateboarder-that-fended-off-a-jaguar

jimmyjams · August 2021

In the climbing, after the bouldering only 1 point separates the top 4! With lead-climbing to begin in about 15 mins. And two of those four being the last two to climb.

The other three aren't completely out of the medals but mathematically can't get better than bronze.

rick_chasey · August 2021

gweeds said:

ddraver said:
Some Anglo-Oranje bitchyness....

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/team-gb-netherlands-hockey-tokyo-2020-b1896727.html

Dutchies rather won that battle tho
Dear me. Imagine winning and still having them living rent-free in your heads like that.

Wearied flex to come out with that and accuse the GB team of arrogance.

I imagine part of this is lost in translation

thejimmymethod · August 2021

JimD666 said:
Is it only ES1 and 2 that have commentary? Watching the pole vault on the ES player and its silent. Wouldn't as bad if there was crowd noise

Didn't see you get a reply; if you look along the controls at the bottom, there should be one that gives the option to change commentary language. Had the same thing yesterday and it had defaulted to ambient sound

jimmyjams · August 2021

jimmyjams said:
In the climbing, after the bouldering only 1 point separates the top 4! With lead-climbing to begin in about 15 mins. And two of those four being the last two to climb.

The other three aren't completely out of the medals but mathematically can't get better than bronze.

Seems they've changed to the order for the lead-climbing. I didn't catch the reasoning, but it appears they are climbing based on their performance in the lead-climbing preliminaries, i.e. poorest then starts first, best will start last.

daniel_b · August 2021

thejimmymethod said:

JimD666 said:
Is it only ES1 and 2 that have commentary? Watching the pole vault on the ES player and its silent. Wouldn't as bad if there was crowd noise
Didn't see you get a reply; if you look along the controls at the bottom, there should be one that gives the option to change commentary language. Had the same thing yesterday and it had defaulted to ambient sound

That's a new upgrade feature that kicks in when ck is detected.

JimD666 · August 2021

thejimmymethod said:

JimD666 said:
Is it only ES1 and 2 that have commentary? Watching the pole vault on the ES player and its silent. Wouldn't as bad if there was crowd noise
Didn't see you get a reply; if you look along the controls at the bottom, there should be one that gives the option to change commentary language. Had the same thing yesterday and it had defaulted to ambient sound

That was what I was expecting. It seems it's there for some sports but not others. No option at all on the Pole Vault.

yorkshireraw · August 2021

DeVlaeminck said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.

Different ways to swim a set distance also in that category ?

At least in hurdles they are still running the fastest way. Maybe the swimming equiv. would be 100m freestyle with hoops to dive through, like a Dolphin show.

yorkshireraw · August 2021

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

First.Aspect said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
It's a water sport?

Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
Um, pretty sure it's faster to use a boat unless there's a tow path. Just ask someone who lives in the Amazon.

Also - They're doing 2K in or around 6 minutes I think? I'm pretty sure the quickest way for the big units in the 4s and 8s to cover that distance is collectively in a boat, rather than running down the towpath.

yorkshireraw · August 2021

JimD666 said:
Is it only ES1 and 2 that have commentary? Watching the pole vault on the ES player and its silent. Wouldn't as bad if there was crowd noise

I was watching on delay and think they had sound issues / dodgy connection to the comms.

Lanterne_Rogue · August 2021

yorkshireraw said:

DeVlaeminck said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:
Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.

Different ways to swim a set distance also in that category ?
At least in hurdles they are still running the fastest way. Maybe the swimming equiv. would be 100m freestyle with hoops to dive through, like a Dolphin show.

The 200m freestyle obstacle race was abandoned after the 1900 Olympics, allowing Australia to claim a 121-year unbeaten record...

Meanwhile 1896 saw the 200m Freestyle for Sailors, which was apparently abandoned because onlookers found an Olympic-sized swimming pool full of seamen too much to swallow.

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