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  • thejimmymethod
    thejimmymethod Posts: 458
    ddraver said:

    Indeed - Anyone remember Whassisname German Sprinter with the huge thighs starting the London XCO?

    Forstelbergermeister or something...

    Robert Försterman. Obligatory thigh pic.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Used to be gymnastics once upon a time. I suspect for similar physical reasons.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    I've been really enjoying the surfing. A lot of it's just watching waves rolling in with nothing happening, so it's quite relaxing.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    I've been really enjoying the surfing. A lot of it's just watching waves rolling in with nothing happening, so it's quite relaxing.

    Yep, that's what it's all about and why I hate the wave pool events. For the record, all the world tour surfing events, plus the big wave tour, are streamed live for free on https://www.worldsurfleague.com/

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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    edited July 2021
    Really well done by Pidcock. As mentioned before showed great control of the race and just managed it like a seasoned vet.

    Regarding MvdP, I really think it's a shame he doesn't dedicate himself to one discipline more. I think Pogacar and MvdP are the best cyclists in the world followed by WVA in third. WVA has dedicated himself entirely to the road and we can see what the results are when a superior talent does that.
    Obviously MvdP (and Pidcock as well in regards to mountain biking) should do what makes him happy, but if you have all the attributes and all the talent in the world as a fan of his, I'd love for him to be truly great. You don't get to be truly great though or have a truly great, all time palmares by splitting your time and training. Winning is just so hard and the competition is just so fierce that you need sufficient attempts in order to build an amazing palmares.
    Amstel Gold broke his way once, but you could argue he could just as well have 3 Flanders titles instead of one. World's as well.
    Considering how much he beats WVA it seems he is making the wrong career choices in terms of what he is targeting.
    Obviously, if he just wants to enjoy riding whatever races and being paid to do so, that is well within his rights. As a fan I simply want him to be great. WVA has made the better career choices in my mind and thus is building the better palmares, despite MvdP being (slightly) better in my humble opinion.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    Agreed, but being the good friend of someone who was quite instrumental in getting skateboaring recognised by the Olympics, recognition comes with lots additional money that can then be used to do the more free spirit stuff that is at the core of skateboarding. This is how my friend rationalises their support for Olympic status anyway, in that it allows them to do more of the outreach and diverse community based stuff all over the world that they love.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493
    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    I think it will work as long as it is based on a subjective points based scoring.
    If either go to tick box point scoring it will fail. I always thought slalom was more suited.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    above_the_cows said:

    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    Agreed, but being the good friend of someone who was quite instrumental in getting skateboaring recognised by the Olympics, recognition comes with lots additional money that can then be used to do the more free spirit stuff that is at the core of skateboarding. This is how my friend rationalises their support for Olympic status anyway, in that it allows them to do more of the outreach and diverse community based stuff all over the world that they love.
    For surfing it's the same. There's been competitive surfing for god knows how many decades, but there are only a couple of hundred surfers, max, that can make a living from the sport.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    m.r.m. said:

    Really well done by Pidcock. As mentioned before showed great control of the race and just managed it like a seasoned vet.

    Regarding MvdP, I really think it's a shame he doesn't dedicate himself to one discipline more. I think Pogacar and MvdP are the best cyclists in the world followed by WVA in third. WVA has dedicated himself entirely to the road and we can see what the results are when a superior talent does that.
    Obviously MvdP (and Pidcock as well in regards to mountain biking) should do what makes him happy, but if you have all the attributes and all the talent in the world as a fan of his, I'd love for him to be truly great. You don't get to be truly great though or have a truly great, all time palmares by splitting your time and training. Winning is just so hard and the competition is just so fierce that you need sufficient attempts in order to build an amazing palmares.
    Amstel Gold broke his way once, but you could argue he could just as well have 3 Flanders titles instead of one. World's as well.
    Considering how much he beats WVA it seems he is making the wrong career choices in terms of what he is targeting.
    Obviously, if he just wants to enjoy riding whatever races and being paid to do so, that is well within his rights. As a fan I simply want him to be great. WVA has made the better career choices in my mind and thus is building the better palmares, despite MvdP being (slightly) better in my humble opinion.

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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    Cross is mostly not competition for road. It's a good training tool during the road off-season.
    I wasn't necessarily being entirely road centric either (although I mainly watch road racing). If you want to be a mountain biker, be a mountain biker. But you will need to race enough events there as well in order to be considered an all time great.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    m.r.m. said:

    I think Pogacar and MvdP are the best cyclists in the world followed by WVA in third. .


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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
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  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,205
    I think Greg Minnaar might like a word...
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    above_the_cows said:

    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    Agreed, but being the good friend of someone who was quite instrumental in getting skateboaring recognised by the Olympics, recognition comes with lots additional money that can then be used to do the more free spirit stuff that is at the core of skateboarding. This is how my friend rationalises their support for Olympic status anyway, in that it allows them to do more of the outreach and diverse community based stuff all over the world that they love.
    Why do you need money (or an organisation) for the free spirit stuff. Or even competition where there's a winner?
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    kingstongraham said:

    above_the_cows said:

    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    Agreed, but being the good friend of someone who was quite instrumental in getting skateboaring recognised by the Olympics, recognition comes with lots additional money that can then be used to do the more free spirit stuff that is at the core of skateboarding. This is how my friend rationalises their support for Olympic status anyway, in that it allows them to do more of the outreach and diverse community based stuff all over the world that they love.
    Why do you need money (or an organisation) for the free spirit stuff. Or even competition where there's a winner?
    When you're doing outreach and working with underprivileged kids all around the world. Skateboards and transport to skateparks isn't free.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    above_the_cows said:

    kingstongraham said:

    above_the_cows said:

    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    Agreed, but being the good friend of someone who was quite instrumental in getting skateboaring recognised by the Olympics, recognition comes with lots additional money that can then be used to do the more free spirit stuff that is at the core of skateboarding. This is how my friend rationalises their support for Olympic status anyway, in that it allows them to do more of the outreach and diverse community based stuff all over the world that they love.
    Why do you need money (or an organisation) for the free spirit stuff. Or even competition where there's a winner?
    When you're doing outreach and working with underprivileged kids all around the world. Skateboards and transport to skateparks isn't free.
    Fair play
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    kingstongraham said:

    above_the_cows said:

    kingstongraham said:

    above_the_cows said:

    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    Agreed, but being the good friend of someone who was quite instrumental in getting skateboaring recognised by the Olympics, recognition comes with lots additional money that can then be used to do the more free spirit stuff that is at the core of skateboarding. This is how my friend rationalises their support for Olympic status anyway, in that it allows them to do more of the outreach and diverse community based stuff all over the world that they love.
    Why do you need money (or an organisation) for the free spirit stuff. Or even competition where there's a winner?
    When you're doing outreach and working with underprivileged kids all around the world. Skateboards and transport to skateparks isn't free.
    Fair play
    Yeah, their main thing is getting girls from non-traditional backgrounds doing it.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784
    andyrac said:

    dabber said:

    r0bh said:

    ddraver said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    From a different angle, you can see Pidcock's handling in swerving MvdP

    Flippin' big drop for XCO when you've got a saddle up your censored ...

    I wonder if the ramp will be there for the girls..?
    That would be sexist
    There's a bit of video of Evie Richards practicing on that jump with the ramp in place but she is taking off from the top and totally clearing the ramp like it isn't there...so I would hope it won't be there for the race.

    She's been getting 'Jumps' training from Katy Curd in the Forest of Dean in preparation for the jumps on the course.....It won't be there.
    What's the feeling about Richards' chances?
    At the moment Lecomte looks unbeatable, and Rissveds good for a medal too.
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784
    bobmcstuff said:

    Just watching the XC back from the start - looks like a fun course!

    I'd want the ramp for the drop though... especially on my rigid XC bike.

    Pidcock did really well, coming from 29th on the grid, not to get caught in the bottleneck at the first rock garden - lots of riders were forced to get off there.

    Don't know how it is in amateur MTB races nowadays, but in the 90s, the days of rigid MTB bikes, when there were highish drops like Van Poel's one today (or even simpler and less high), and no ramp, there was usually an easier alternate route but which added a few metres and also meant losing speed.
    It looked to me today, that the likes of you and me could have avoided the Van Poel's drop by going to the left before it (left in the sense of the direction being ridden).
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784
    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.

    Not sure why you feel uncomfortable (if I've understood you correctly) with 'free spirit' sports being taken into the Olympics; surely they are actually what a lot of people nowadays want and prefer to do, and are more likely to have the chance to do, so have more interest in.

    (I mostly agree about your age concerns, though I'd probably accept 16).
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    jimmyjams said:

    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.

    Not sure why you feel uncomfortable (if I've understood you correctly) with 'free spirit' sports being taken into the Olympics; surely they are actually what a lot of people nowadays want and prefer to do, and are more likely to have the chance to do, so have more interest in.

    (I mostly agree about your age concerns, though I'd probably accept 16).
    I'm not uncomfortable with it, it just seems out of keeping with sports developed by people trying to get away from sport with rules. It's the young age I'm a bit uncomfortable with, gymnastics used to be like it but now have a minimum age to compete with seniors.

    That said, Tom Daley was 14 at his first Olympics - his dive partner was saying he watched him as a kid despite only being 3 or 4 years younger.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Women's triathlon starting, slight delay due to a monsoon - should be interesting on the bike leg as it's quite a tight and twisty circuit.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    edited July 2021
    jimmyjams said:

    andyrac said:

    dabber said:

    r0bh said:

    ddraver said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    From a different angle, you can see Pidcock's handling in swerving MvdP

    Flippin' big drop for XCO when you've got a saddle up your censored ...

    I wonder if the ramp will be there for the girls..?
    That would be sexist
    There's a bit of video of Evie Richards practicing on that jump with the ramp in place but she is taking off from the top and totally clearing the ramp like it isn't there...so I would hope it won't be there for the race.

    She's been getting 'Jumps' training from Katy Curd in the Forest of Dean in preparation for the jumps on the course.....It won't be there.
    What's the feeling about Richards' chances?
    At the moment Lecomte looks unbeatable, and Rissveds good for a medal too.
    It's not gonna happen but there's a chance for a medal and wouldn't it be just lovely if it was gold.

    Given her Instagram feed is basically what The Walton's feed would be if Instagram had existed (plus some minor MTB content), it would just be so warm and cuddly and wholesome! Think early Laura Trott era...
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493
    edited July 2021
    above_the_cows said:

    kingstongraham said:

    above_the_cows said:

    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    I've just been watching the skateboarding. It's nice to see they have an event for children, maybe they should have more them.

    (The ages of the podium - 13,13,16)

    Doesn't feel right to me, an event that puts kids of that age under the world spotlight. The Olympics and 'free spirit' sports like skateboarding and snowboarding don't feel like natural bedfellows either.
    Agreed, but being the good friend of someone who was quite instrumental in getting skateboaring recognised by the Olympics, recognition comes with lots additional money that can then be used to do the more free spirit stuff that is at the core of skateboarding. This is how my friend rationalises their support for Olympic status anyway, in that it allows them to do more of the outreach and diverse community based stuff all over the world that they love.
    Why do you need money (or an organisation) for the free spirit stuff. Or even competition where there's a winner?
    When you're doing outreach and working with underprivileged kids all around the world. Skateboards and transport to skateparks isn't free.
    Not to mention the facilities. I doubt it will come as shock the street skating in the streets is not popular with the general public.

    Then there is the cycling comparison. We've built you a sh!t skatepark/cycle path so keep off the streets/roads. That said, kinda liked the rebellious side...
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited July 2021
    Those triathlon outfits look cold. I realise it's probably 30 degrees despite the rain

    I know they don't have team cars, but are there any neutral service facilities.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    Having a rewatch given that this morning was rather chaotic.

    Credit to Nino Schuster. Bit of a shame for him that 2020 and 34 became 2021 and 35. Would have been a cherry on top of a wonderful cake of a career. Good to see him not settling for anything other than gold.

    Pidcock was indeed just superb though.

    Lots of samurai style honour to M vd Mardy Lip for sticking it out so long after what must have been a hell of a crash too.
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,589
    RichN95. said:

    Those triathlon outfits look cold. I realise it's probably 30 degrees despite the rain

    I know they don't have team cars, but are there any neutral service facilities.

    Just like CX there is a wheel pit every lap. But that is it. You are responsible for your own mechanicals. No team cars or service bikes. Puncture and you are out.
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