TDF 2021: Stage 20, Libourne > Saint-Emilion 30.8 km ITT **Spoilers**

Stage 20, Libourne > Saint-Emilion 30.8 km

17-7-2021
Start: 12-05pm


The penultimate stage of the Tour de France is the second time trial of the race. The route is 31 kilometres long and takes place in the rolling vineyards near Bordeaux, between Libourne and Saint-Emilion. The course's small rises and long drags will perfectly suit the time trial specialists.
In 1996, the medieval wine town hosted it's only other visit from Le Tour. It used as finish in a 63.5 kilometer ITT from Bordeaux, which was won by a young upstart by the name of Jan Ullrich.



The route takes it clockwise from Libourne to Pomerol. Just beyond the village of La Patache, the course checks to the east, loops through Pomerol and then follows a comparatively straight trajectory to reach the outskirts of Lussac, at the course’s most easterly point, then swings in a loop to the South West, before a final turn to the South and Saint-Emilion.
The vineyard setting showcases some of the finest Bordeaux wine chateaux, which can command enormous prices. After all the small gear climbing in the Pyrenees, this big gear test could be of concern for the climbers.



Final Kilometres




Top 10 first time trial:
1. Pogacar
2. Küng + 0.19
3. Vingegaard + 0.27
4. Van Aert + 0.30
5. *Van der Poel + 0.31
6. Asgreen + 0.37
7. *Roglic + 0.44
8. Cattaneo + 0.55
9. Porte s.t.
10. Lutsenko + 1.00

* Denotes fallen by the wayside.

Last day, or second last day, time-trials in a Grand Tour are less about someone’s time trialling ability and more about how physically riders have come through the three weeks. So if you’re physically tired you are going to be losing time and if you’re in a good place exiting the Tour de France then time can be made up. But we won’t see the same gaps we saw last year.

Favourites stage 20 Tour de France 2021

***** Tadej Pogacar
**** Wout van Aert, Stefan Küng, Kasper Asgreen
*** Stefan Bissegger, Jonas Vingegaard, Mikkel Bjerg, Dylan van Baarle,
** Mattia Cattaneo, Michał Kwiatkowski, Jonathan Castroviejo
* Brandon McNulty, Geraint Thomas, Richie Porte, Alexey Lutsenko, Wilco Kelderman


The Wine Route.

Listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site, the wine-growing and cultural landscapes of Saint-Emilion, together with the neighbouring designations of Pomerol and Fronsac, form an exceptional group of Appellations d’Origine Contrôlée (AOCs) wines and historic sites established on one of the most legendary Bordeaux wine routes.

Pomerol

Pomerol is a small plateau dotted with small wine farms, on an even smaller scale. The most famous Pomerol of all, Petrus, comprises hardly 12 ha (30 acres) of a very special clay, and there are other properties such as Ch Lafleur and Le Pin whose extremely limited size helps to bolster the prices of their extremely fine, opulent wines. Pomerols are velvety, rich, Merlot-based wines which can smell almost meaty and can give an enormous amount of pleasure.



On the right bank of the river, the Saint-Emilion wine-growing region gathers more than 900 winegrowers. It boasts a unique mosaic of terroirs, plots, and small wineries. The geological diversity of the soils, predominantly clay and limestone, allows for skilful and expressive blends of grape varieties. The omnipresent Merlot, complemented by Cabernet Franc and Cabernet Sauvignon, gives Saint-Emilion red wines their unique finesse and personality. There are four appellations: Saint-Émilion, Saint-Émilion Grand Cru, Lussac Saint-Émilion, and Puisseguin Saint-Émilion.



2019 Saint-Emilion, Cuvée Peaky Blinders

The 2019 Saint-Emilion bottled in order of the Shelby Company limited is a blend of Merlot for 72%, Cabernet f*****g Franc for 22% and the rest is Cabernet Sauvignon.





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Comments

  • 142 still in the race - Tadej Pogačar due to start at 17:19 CEST
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    Any idea as to time cut off?
    And who will give the first indicator of a winning time?
  • notquite6foot
    notquite6foot Posts: 248
    edited July 2021
    André Greipel - the Great Gentle Giant German Gorilla and long-time rival of Cav - has said this season will be his last.

    With 158 wins under his belt (including 22 Grand Tour stages and the Hamburg Cyclassics), it's been a great career.
    mrfpb said:

    Any idea as to time cut off?

    25% of the winner's time.
    mrfpb said:

    And who will give the first indicator of a winning time?

    Probably Tadej when he wins today's stage.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    Cav winning the TT. I think he'll get his 35 today.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    Time cut off is 25% of the winning time. I would guess the winning time will be around 37-38 minutes so between 9-10 minutes.
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    Looks like Cav will beat Froome again!
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    Declerq finishes in 40:20 and was the slowest of the 4 DQS riders at the checkpoints, so unlikely anyone of the first 20 on the road will be troubling the cut off, especially Cav.
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569


    mrfpb said:

    And who will give the first indicator of a winning time?

    Probably Tadej when he wins today's stage.
    I was thinking a ballpark figure - is there an early rider today that is likely to give a top ten or twenty time?

  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    mrfpb said:


    mrfpb said:

    And who will give the first indicator of a winning time?

    Probably Tadej when he wins today's stage.
    I was thinking a ballpark figure - is there an early rider today that is likely to give a top ten or twenty time?

    Bisseger is on the road
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited July 2021
    34- 30” is my guess
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569

    mrfpb said:


    mrfpb said:

    And who will give the first indicator of a winning time?

    Probably Tadej when he wins today's stage.
    I was thinking a ballpark figure - is there an early rider today that is likely to give a top ten or twenty time?

    Bisseger is on the road
    Cheers
  • notquite6foot
    notquite6foot Posts: 248
    edited July 2021
    That would translate to roughly 53.5km/h, which is possible. A sub-42-minute ride should be enough to stay in the race.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    This forum has gone cut off mad
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    When are the last 3 setting off?
  • notquite6foot
    notquite6foot Posts: 248
    edited July 2021
    Start times / splits on PCS

    About 4:15pm UK time for the last three.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    mrfpb said:

    mrfpb said:


    mrfpb said:

    And who will give the first indicator of a winning time?

    Probably Tadej when he wins today's stage.
    I was thinking a ballpark figure - is there an early rider today that is likely to give a top ten or twenty time?

    Bisseger is on the road
    Cheers
    Bissegger in 36'38"
    Takes the lead

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Any comment on the rumours that Pogacar's rear wheel (among others) makes a strange noise?
    Just read it on Repubblica.it
    left the forum March 2023
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692

    Any comment on the rumours that Pogacar's rear wheel (among others) makes a strange noise?
    Just read it on Repubblica.it

    Sounds like the usual tinfoil hat stuff tbh
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325

    Any comment on the rumours that Pogacar's rear wheel (among others) makes a strange noise?
    Just read it on Repubblica.it

    Sounds like the usual tinfoil hat stuff tbh
    Yeah, all bollox...
    I don't think racers would use a motor, to be honest... drugs are different, there's always been a culture that drugs in sport are more acceptable than other means of cheating.
    Basically, the belief among many is that doping helps you cope with the huge pain you have to endure in order to win... a bit like taking paracetamol... of course it's not how it works, but that is still the culture.

    A motor is a completely different ball game
    left the forum March 2023
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    Disk wheels have always made a funny noise no?

    I remember hearing one the first time and I didnt know what it was
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912

    This forum has gone cut off mad

    More tension than the GC
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    edited July 2021

    Any comment on the rumours that Pogacar's rear wheel (among others) makes a strange noise?
    Just read it on Repubblica.it

    Yeah I have one . What a load of bollox . You would end up headfirst into road furniture if you used a motor at the tour .. from your own team
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025

    This forum has gone cut off mad

    It has, but you've gone to the other extreme and failed to notice all the eliminated riders or the ones making it by seconds.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    The question I'd ask these alleged riders who are hearing these 'motors' is, if they are using motors, how are you keeping up with them?
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    This forum has gone cut off mad

    It has, but you've gone to the other extreme and failed to notice all the eliminated riders or the ones making it by seconds.
    Happens every tour. No one bothered about it before - what’s different?

    At this level if you’re not making the limit you shouldn’t be in the race anyway so they’re doing you a favour.
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784



    The 2019 Saint-Emilion bottled in order of the Shelby Company limited is a blend of Merlot for 72%, Cabernet f*****g Franc for 22% and the rest is Cabernet Sauvignon.


    What's the problem with Cabenet Franc?
    Two common and well-liked grape varieties are hybrid descendants of Franc – Merlot and, more importantly, Cab. Sauvignon – without their 'dad', we wouldn't have them!

    The vine also has other things going for it - withstands cooler weather okay (so found on the Loire and in Fruili, the cool NE region in Italy), and has less tannin than several grape types (so better suits some people).
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784
    No discussion about the prospects of (a) O'Connor and Keldermann, (b) Mas and Lutsenko, and (c ) Bilbao and Martin all to swap places in the GC today?

    I think (a) and (c ) very likely, and (b) quite possible.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Kelderman is supposed to be a decent TTer but had a shocker on stage 5
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262

    This forum has gone cut off mad

    It has, but you've gone to the other extreme and failed to notice all the eliminated riders or the ones making it by seconds.
    Happens every tour. No one bothered about it before - what’s different?
    There's more live data now so we can actually follow it in real time.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    edited July 2021

    This forum has gone cut off mad

    It has, but you've gone to the other extreme and failed to notice all the eliminated riders or the ones making it by seconds.
    Happens every tour. No one bothered about it before - what’s different?

    At this level if you’re not making the limit you shouldn’t be in the race anyway so they’re doing you a favour.
    I suspect there have been more this tour, but I have no evidence to back that up. It used to only cull the sick and injured.