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TDF 2021: Stage 9, Cluses > Tignes 144.9 km **Spoilers**

blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,214

Stage 9, Cluses > Tignes 144.9 km

4-7-2021
Start 12-00.


Two years after a stage on the Tour de France to Tignes was washed (along with Geraint Thomas's chances) away by flash floods, the ASO have made true on their promise of bringing the race back.
The route amounts to 145 kilometres, so making it the second short, punchy mountain stage. There are five climbs peppered along the route between Cluses and the ski station at Tignes. Consequently, the climbing starts relatively early and probably means that a large break will get away, while the sprinters labour, hoping for the pace to let up, sooner, rather than later.



The punchy Côte de Domancy is likely to see a lot of attacks. It's short at 2.5 kilometres, but has steep agradient of 9.4% . It appears after 17.5 kilometres. The route then moves through the Arly valley to enter the Col des Saisies after 40 kilometres. After a long descent and having past the world famous cheese village of Beaufort, the riders next face the Col du Pré, which climbs for 12.6 kilometres. A short descent leads to the short equally short ascent of the Cormet de Roselend.
After taking in some of the most stunning scenery of the race so far the riders begin the long descent down into Bourg-Saint-Maurice followed by the 21km climb of the Montée de Tignes.



The Climbs:



After 40 kilometres. The 9.4 kilometres Col des Saisies climb averages 6.2%.


The Col du Pré climbs for 12.6 kilometres and the average gradient sits at 7.7%.


A short descent and a section on the flat lead onto the next obstacle. The Cormet de Roselend is a 5.7 kilometres climb at 6.5%.


The Montée de Tignes is 21 kilometres long, while the average gradient sits at 5.6%. Halfway up the climb the route flattens out for 2.5 kilometres before continuing with a slightly steeper second half.
While this a brute of a climb, especially in it's second half, this isn’t a summit finish, as the road flattens out with 2 kilometres to go.



Final Kilometres


With five climbs the certainty for a full on GC battle was there, until yesterday. It's now hard to see the breakaway not surviving to the finish, with UAE content to control the race until Wednesday at least, but probably the Pyrenees. Indeed, some climbers may now switch their attention to the Polka Dot jersey: a positive to come out of yesterday's annihilation of the challengers.

Favourites stage 9 Tour de France 2021

***** Tadej Pogacar (nevertheless)
**** Richard Carapaz, (only because he deserves some credit) Wout Poels
*** Miguel Angel Lopez, Esteban Chaves, Emanuel Buchmann, Steven Kruijswijk, Jakob Fuglsang
** Tao Geoghegan Hart, Sepp Kuss, Guillaume Martin, Julian Alaphilippe
* Ben O’Connor, Ion Izagirre, Mattia Cattaneo, Simon Yates, Ruben Guerreiro


Cluses

Stage town for the 3rd time
Population: 17,100

In the 18th century, watchmaking was introduced into the valley to supply the firms in Geneva and the Royal School of Watchmaking was created in Cluses. Faced with the needs of industry, the manufacture of small micromechanical parts in series developed: screw-cutting was born. This activity consists of manufacturing turned metal parts from metal bars or wire. The outlets are mainly the automobile industry, aeronautics and dental equipment. Cluses and the Arve Valley have thus become the economic lung of Haute-Savoie.

Cluses twice hosted the finish of a Tour de France stage from the Tarentaise valley. This was the case in 1994, with a stage that started in Moutiers and was won by Piotr Ugrumov and in 2002 for a stage staring in Aime. Cluses has been more often on the programme of the Critérium du Dauphiné, the last time in 2019 for the start of a stage won in Switzerland in Champéry by Dylan Van Baarle, but also of the Tour des Pays de Savoie, with prestigious winners, Tao Geoghegan Hart in 2016 and Egan Bernal in 2017.

On the Road
Km 66.6
Beaufort (Pop: 2,050)
Beaufort cheese
The "Prince of Gruyères", Beaufort is a smooth, ivory to pale yellow cheese with a fruity taste of extreme finesse.



Km 93
Cormet de Roselend (1,968 m)
Linking the Beaufortain valley and the Mont-Blanc massif, the Cormet de Roselend has been climbed 12 times by Tour de France riders since 1979. The last rider to lead over the pass was Marc Hirschi last year, on the opposite side.




Tignes

Stage town for the 3rd time
Population: 2,400

The Tour de France had to return to Tignes after the truncated 2019 stage, where torrential rain and a landslide prevented the riders from cycling to the Tarentaise resort. An exceptional setting, between lakes, glaciers and mythical peaks, a privileged experience consists in climbing onto the roof terrace of the Grande Motte cable car (accessible only in summer), and enjoying a 360° view of an exceptional panorama at an altitude of over 3,000 m. One of the most beautiful in the French Alps, with a view of Mont Pourri,



the Grande Sassière ridges, the Grande Casse (highest point of the Vanoise: 3,856 m) and the majestic Mont Blanc range on the horizon. An audio-guide enriches this experience.
Or why not simply enjoy a blueberry tart in one of the refuges accessible from the heart of the resort.








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  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,717
    What's the weather going to be?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,423
    Didn't even realise Chaves is in the race!
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,220
    mrb123 said:

    Didn't even realise Chaves is in the race!

    Huh... neither did I!
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,423
    Do we reckon Roglic will start tomorrow?
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,717
    mrb123 said:

    Do we reckon Roglic will start tomorrow?

    I think he'd be mad to. Thomas as well.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 16,802
    One way to find out who is a team player, and who is not.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • lettingthedaysgobylettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,665
    mrb123 said:

    Didn't even realise Chaves is in the race!

    He is? Blimey :D
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,214
    edited 3 July

    What's the weather going to be?

    Worse than today.



    Plus there's a weather warning for the next 24 hours in the Savoie.

    Tignes strikes again.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 4,356
    It's a very fast descent off the top of the Roseland that becomes very twisty and technical mid way down. Then the climb from Tignes 1650 to Tignes 1800 is pretty steep before easing off to Le Lac and then pretty much flat to the finish.
    Opportunity for someone to go long from the Col de Pre.
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,717

    What's the weather going to be?

    Worse than today.



    Plus there's a weather warning for the next 24 hours in the Savoie.

    Tignes strikes again.
    :/
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 4,356
    Every afternoon in the mountains in high summer has an 'Averses Orogeuses' warning! However, it doesn't look good for tomorrow.
    Pog likes the cold, not the hot.
  • specialgueststarspecialgueststar Posts: 3,369
    edited 3 July
    Interesting to see how the teams respond to this. Today (st 8) they were all over the place - but now some major GC sorting maybe some more cohesion and control?
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,604
    Surely anyone capable of doing so has to have a go and hope Pog went too deep today unless they are all looking at 2nd and 3rd now.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,493
    Racing for the podium. No attacking but the bigger teams will put the squeeze on to see how keeps up. So Ineos will probably revert to type racing for second.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,604

    mrb123 said:

    Do we reckon Roglic will start tomorrow?

    I think he'd be mad to. Thomas as well.
    Only benefit would be if they can take it easy for a few days and hope to recover to be of use to team mates in the next mountains. No point them being there otherwise.
  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 3,330
    Pross said:

    mrb123 said:

    Do we reckon Roglic will start tomorrow?

    I think he'd be mad to. Thomas as well.
    Only benefit would be if they can take it easy for a few days and hope to recover to be of use to team mates in the next mountains. No point them being there otherwise.
    Or nick a stage, if they're feeling really cocky. Hard to imagine either would be - both look screwed. There's a certain amount of pride at stake too though, and it might well depend on whether there's anything to reschedule for.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,220
    I don't know enough about Roglic but I would have thought Thomas would try to get round the Tour one way or another - hasn't past experience shown that?
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,423

    I don't know enough about Roglic but I would have thought Thomas would try to get round the Tour one way or another - hasn't past experience shown that?

    It's not like Thomas would be guaranteed leadership for the Vuelta as I assume that Bernal and Yates are likely to be riding it.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 16,802
    mrb123 said:

    I don't know enough about Roglic but I would have thought Thomas would try to get round the Tour one way or another - hasn't past experience shown that?

    It's not like Thomas would be guaranteed leadership for the Vuelta as I assume that Bernal and Yates are likely to be riding it.
    He might just be resting up to be part of the train in the 3rd week.
    Be a team player.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 1,040
    He popped the first few km yesterday, can't see him back to form today. UAE to sit back, let others fight it out. Right now every stage is up for grabs unless Pogacar has an off or a bad day.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,214
    Pross said:

    Surely anyone capable of doing so has to have a go and hope Pog went too deep today unless they are all looking at 2nd and 3rd now.

    The trouble is that they all looked in a far worse state crossing the line, than Pogacar.

    I reckon today will resemble the morning after a stag do.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,191
    Roglic abandons
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

    @DrHeadgear

    The Vikings are coming!
  • redvisionredvision Posts: 2,746
    mrb123 said:

    Do we reckon Roglic will start tomorrow?

    His team has confirmed he's not starting today and has dropped out of the tour. As expected really.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,361 Lives Here
    Are we assuming a snooze today?
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 14,061
    edited 4 July


    I reckon today will resemble the morning after a stag do.


    Wasn't that yesterday? Pogacar obviously didn't drink.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,674
    Believe that a farther shore
    Is reachable from here.
    Believe in miracles
    And cures and healing wells
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,604
    Pog looked under pressure on Friday and was saved time loss by Movistar then turned in that performance yesterday.
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,604
    mrb123 said:

    Didn't even realise Chaves is in the race!

    He was quite well placed after the first few stages as I think he avoided the crashes.
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,191
    Pross said:

    Pog looked under pressure on Friday and was saved time loss by Movistar then turned in that performance yesterday.

    I'm not sure Pog was under pressure there, though his team was.
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

    @DrHeadgear

    The Vikings are coming!
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