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So a higher proportion of AB's vote tory than any for any other party. Thanks, saved me the effort.rick_chasey said:Stevo_666 said:
Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.rick_chasey said:
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.
o rly.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So the idea of the left wing/ liberal elite running the country is bunkem?Stevo_666 said:Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.
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Each their own H3, but tbh any other party that has a hope in hell of getting into power will f*** you over good and proper if they get into power and would have done so by now if they had won the last election. Because you have the gall to be a successful family.hopkinb said:
Stevo, I've met you, and I like you.Stevo_666 said:
Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.rick_chasey said:
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.
Not that I've watched an enormous amount of GB News, but maybe you should tell me what programmes I should be watching given that I'm a graduate with a professional qualification?
Our household income is (according to google) apparently above 99.5% of that of the general population. We are both highly educated professionals in high paying jobs. We are therefore pretty successful. Not in a million years would I, or my wife, (who I very considerately allow to earn more than me) consider voting for the conservative party. They are, particularly in their current iteration, vile, contemptible, racist, retrograde scum. Lining theirs, and their friend's pockets, smashing through the ministerial code, literally justifying it because the PM is "popular".
Today's tory party is unashamedly playing for the old/thick/racist/couldn't give a fcuk/selfish vote. Pick one. Which one are you? And to be fair, it'll be your pension they're after next, when they realise where their support lies, and how much money they have to raise when Brexit fcuks a massive hole in the country's finances.
There probably are quite a few thicko dinosaurs who vote tory, just as there are who vote for Labour. But who cares who other people vote for? You're both intelligent enough to know know what side your bread is buttered. You're not a turkey, so don't vote for ****ing Christmas.
Edit: best stay off this topic in 2 weeks time
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Where do I say that?tailwindhome said:
So the idea of the left wing/ liberal elite running the country is bunkem?Stevo_666 said:Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Are you taking about Rick and Cake Stop here?rjsterry said:
God save us from self-appointed spokespeople and their imaginary silent majorities.kingstongraham said:He's someone working class who wrote a book subtitled "Why the Modern Left Loathes the Working Class".
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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rick_chasey said:
I am a gobshite but I don’t pretend to speak for anyone other than me
That'd be quite a good signature.0 -
GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit sh1t.0
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It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.0 -
Fair enough, I've only watched the breakfast show, laughed at how amateur it was and then changed channel. Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
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Although the majority of ABs do not vote for right wing parties.Stevo_666 said:
So a higher proportion of AB's vote tory than any for any other party. Thanks, saved me the effort.rick_chasey said:Stevo_666 said:
Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.rick_chasey said:
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.
o rly.
However, the majority of those who you would regard as not pretty successful, do vote for right wing parties.0 -
Labour voters are constant across the social grades.Jezyboy said:
Although the majority of ABs do not vote for right wing parties.Stevo_666 said:
So a higher proportion of AB's vote tory than any for any other party. Thanks, saved me the effort.rick_chasey said:Stevo_666 said:
Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.rick_chasey said:
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.
o rly.
However, the majority of those who you would regard as not pretty successful, do vote for right wing parties.
The only real difference between Tories as they slide down the social grades is they pick up about the same number of voters the lib dems lose.
Again, your social standing doesn't really have much of a bearing on who you vote anymore, in terms of likelihood if you voting a certain way.0 -
skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.
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2019 was all about Brexit and the painting of "foreigners" as stealing the jobs, hospital appointments, school places and housing from the poor forgotten white folk.rick_chasey said:
Labour voters are constant across the social grades.Jezyboy said:
Although the majority of ABs do not vote for right wing parties.Stevo_666 said:
So a higher proportion of AB's vote tory than any for any other party. Thanks, saved me the effort.rick_chasey said:Stevo_666 said:
Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.rick_chasey said:
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.
o rly.
However, the majority of those who you would regard as not pretty successful, do vote for right wing parties.
The only real difference between Tories as they slide down the social grades is they pick up about the same number of voters the lib dems lose.
Again, your social standing doesn't really have much of a bearing on who you vote anymore, in terms of likelihood if you voting a certain way.
the drip drip drip of this narrative won out for the right wing parties.0 -
Are you claiming that Woke Watch doesn't take a right wing position?shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.
If the channel isn't right wing, it's got no hope.0 -
Do you have to be right wing to laugh at wokeism? Andrew Doyle has done the woke watch thing a few times, he was a big supporter of Jeremy Corbyn wasn't he?kingstongraham said:
Are you claiming that Woke Watch doesn't take a right wing position?shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.
If the channel isn't right wing, it's got no hope.
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Have you watched it?shortfall said:
Do you have to be right wing to laugh at wokeism? Andrew Doyle has done the woke watch thing a few times, he was a big supporter of Jeremy Corbyn wasn't he?kingstongraham said:
Are you claiming that Woke Watch doesn't take a right wing position?shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.
If the channel isn't right wing, it's got no hope.0 -
Yes a few times, sometimes with Andrew Neil, sometimes with the other guy. Do you have to be right wing to laugh at certain aspects of wokeism?0
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This is exactly the phenomenon I referred to earlier. Andrew Doyle is right wing on the current spectrum.shortfall said:
Do you have to be right wing to laugh at wokeism? Andrew Doyle has done the woke watch thing a few times, he was a big supporter of Jeremy Corbyn wasn't he?kingstongraham said:
Are you claiming that Woke Watch doesn't take a right wing position?shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.
If the channel isn't right wing, it's got no hope.0 -
That isn't what they are doing.shortfall said:Yes a few times, sometimes with Andrew Neil, sometimes with the other guy. Do you have to be right wing to laugh at certain aspects of wokeism?
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They are taking a specific example of what they define as "wokeism" from somewhere in the world, then say that it is unacceptable, expanding it to say that represents what "the left" thinks, and also expand to say that other things that they say that "the left" think are also ridiculous and unacceptable.kingstongraham said:
That isn't what they are doing.shortfall said:Yes a few times, sometimes with Andrew Neil, sometimes with the other guy. Do you have to be right wing to laugh at certain aspects of wokeism?
The one about the embroiderer was a classic of the genre.0 -
Oh stop being such a bloody martyr about people disagreeing with you.shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Don't gammons need to be fired up continually else loss of pinkness?0
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Who's playing the martyr? Just making an observation. I mean if people are happy enough to throw out generic insults about Gammon News and elderly and thick viewers then they shouldn't get too upset if I point out the blindingly obvious about this place.rjsterry said:
Oh stop being such a bloody martyr about people disagreeing with you.shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.0 -
Being old isn’t an insult. Nor is not having had further education. Thought you’d be a bit better than that.shortfall said:
Who's playing the martyr? Just making an observation. I mean if people are happy enough to throw out generic insults about Gammon News and elderly and thick viewers then they shouldn't get too upset if I point out the blindingly obvious about this place.rjsterry said:
Oh stop being such a bloody martyr about people disagreeing with you.shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.
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Can one go fishing for gammon? 🤔0
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So that's two people. For someone who made a point of stating how they didn't fit into neat left/right categories, you seem very happy to lump everyone who isn't you together.shortfall said:
Who's playing the martyr? Just making an observation. I mean if people are happy enough to throw out generic insults about Gammon News and elderly and thick viewers then they shouldn't get too upset if I point out the blindingly obvious about this place.rjsterry said:
Oh stop being such a bloody martyr about people disagreeing with you.shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Not everybody in here is a wooly liberal obviously but it helps as they say. I know you disagree with me on the general thrust of opinion in here and have yourself described it as "centrist dad central" but nobody's accusing you of including every individual in that description.rjsterry said:
So that's two people. For someone who made a point of stating how they didn't fit into neat left/right categories, you seem very happy to lump everyone who isn't you together.shortfall said:
Who's playing the martyr? Just making an observation. I mean if people are happy enough to throw out generic insults about Gammon News and elderly and thick viewers then they shouldn't get too upset if I point out the blindingly obvious about this place.rjsterry said:
Oh stop being such a bloody martyr about people disagreeing with you.shortfall said:skyblueamateur said:
Didn't seem particularly right wing. I obviously haven't seen their 'specialty' programskingstongraham said:
It still wants to be. Woke Watch is even trying to gin up outrage over the same made up version of Critical Race Theory.skyblueamateur said:GB News isn't the devil incarnate or anything like Fox News. It's just a bit censored .
Fox News has Chris Wallace, that doesn't make it fair and balanced.
It's not, unless you're in Cake Stop and then even someone like Iain Dale is probably seen as being on the extreme right.0
