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I thought he'd joined the list of people boycotting GBNewsdarkhairedlord said:
Sounds like he has taken two weeks hols to look for another job.kingstongraham said:Andrew Neil is stepping back from presenting his programme for a few weeks. After 2 weeks.
So now no serious journalism on there is there?0 -
"I’m simply taking a break to replenish my batteries after the rigours of the launch. Plus I have other business matters to attend to."darkhairedlord said:
Sounds like he has taken two weeks hols to look for another job.kingstongraham said:Andrew Neil is stepping back from presenting his programme for a few weeks. After 2 weeks.
So now no serious journalism on there is there?
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They've run out of money.kingstongraham said:
"I’m simply taking a break to replenish my batteries after the rigours of the launch. Plus I have other business matters to attend to."darkhairedlord said:
Sounds like he has taken two weeks hols to look for another job.kingstongraham said:Andrew Neil is stepping back from presenting his programme for a few weeks. After 2 weeks.
So now no serious journalism on there is there?
Bit weird.0 -
1/10th of what essentially the same show was drawing in when it was on the BBCkingstongraham said:Yep. Is 92,000 for its flagship show enough to make money?
1/6th of what Iain Dale is getting on LBC.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
tailwindhome said:
1/10th of what essentially the same show was drawing in when it was on the BBCkingstongraham said:Yep. Is 92,000 for its flagship show enough to make money?
1/6th of what Iain Dale is getting on LBC.
Too early to tell.0 -
Pretty much though intriguingly the money came from the traditional leftie source of private equity deals or what their Journos call vulture capitalism.elbowloh said:
Pretty sure even if the donations dried up, the Guardian would keep going. I think it's backed by a trust that was set up by the family that established the paper and is worth I think more than a £billion, certainly hundreds of millionssurrey_commuter said:
For reasons that are a complete mystery to me that begging bowl raises staggering sums of money (think tens of millions), in the USA it is tax deductible.Stevo_666 said:
Talking of loss making papers with political agendas, is the Guardian still begging for online donations?rick_chasey said:I do think it's important to know with all these news outlets, papers and TV, nowadays there is no money in it, especially not newspapers.
Murdoch recently wrote down the value of the sun to zero, right? There is no commercial value in that paper. There is however political value.
We're moving into a sort of neo-Victorian world where a handful of superrich go around buying up newspapers at a loss (think WSJ, Evening Standard, the sun, the times & Sunday times, telegraph etc etc) to push their own personal political agendas.
What are these people paying for? to influence mugs like us.
Trusts that can not be topped up tend to be invested very conservatively so I imagine the losses need to be closer to £50m than £100m to be sustainable.0 -
GB News figures, Thursday:
BBC News at Ten: 3.6 million
BBC News 1pm: 2.4 million
ITV News at Ten: 1.5 million
BBC Breakfast: 1.4 million
BBC Question Time: 1.3 million
Good Morning Britain: 717,000
BBC News 9am: 294,000
BBC Newsnight: 286,000
Kay Burley, Sky: 54,000
Sky News Ian King: 42,000
Great British Breakfast on GB News: 32,000
Andrew Neil: 31,000
GB News DePerio & Halligan 16,000
GB News Brazier & Muroki: 11,0000 -
I'm amazed how few people watch a lot of those. Not sure how GMB got the advertising to justify Piers Morgan's salary off 700,000 viewers, maybe their figures have slumped since he went.0
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I'm not surprised, with online news you can dip in when you want. Also when you do it's within seconds current with the information. I bet the majority of people who are online know exactly what the news is going to be before switching on the TV News.0
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How does GB News figures compare with similar opinion on the news shows like Loose Women?1
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They get around 1m and up to 1.4m viewers in lockdown.kingstongraham said:How does GB News figures compare with similar opinion on the news shows like Loose Women?
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A trade union activist and author writes.
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You know I keep banging on about a re-alignment of politics, and left right isn't about trade unions, working class etc, right?shortfall said:A trade union activist and author writes.
Why do you think that is?0 -
Do you suspect it because you want it to be so? I mean fine if you don't want to watch it and just prefer to keep posting stuff that fits in with your confirmation bias. Meanwhile lots of people from the left are appearing on it and are given time and space to articulate their cause.ddraver said:Cool Story Bro.
Why do I suspect that he did this on a panel with 3 other rabid right wingers who spent 90% of the rest of the program arguing that he was a mad, crazy fool...0 -
So you're just assuming that is the case and haven't watched it? The adds value...ddraver said:Cool Story Bro.
Why do I suspect that he did this on a panel with 3 other rabid right wingers who spent 90% of the rest of the program arguing that he was a mad, crazy fool..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Oddly neither of you have said he was wrong- Genesis Croix de Fer
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A brief search shows it was Nigel Farage, Tom Harwood and Dehenna Davison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a34iKts9WYc - Genesis Croix de Fer
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I mean, nothing the guy writes in his tweet is aligned with either the modern right or left.
The current dynamic in politics roughly revolved around young/old (or working/retired), educated/uneducated, which very roughly correlates with populist/liberal.
The "left is for working class people in manual jobs and trade unions" and "right is rich people, high earners and the aspirational" is so outdated non of the data supports it anymore.
It's this misunderstanding which you lot constantly refer to that makes me get back on my hobby horse. Understand that the world has changed ffs.
If you imagine GB news through the lens of who is it appealing to and you'll quickly see the implied balance is only balance if you're over 55.0 -
Am I misunderstanding you or do you have your correlation flipped around?rick_chasey said:I mean, nothing the guy writes in his tweet is aligned with either the modern right or left.
The current dynamic in politics roughly revolved around young/old (or working/retired), educated/uneducated, which very roughly correlates with populist/liberal.
The "left is for working class people in manual jobs and trade unions" and "right is rich people, high earners and the aspirational" is so outdated non of the data supports it anymore.
It's this misunderstanding which you lot constantly refer to that makes me get back on my hobby horse. Understand that the world has changed ffs.
If you imagine GB news through the lens of who is it appealing to and you'll quickly see the implied balance is only balance if you're over 55.
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Your retired miner living in a "red wall" constituency and your retired banker in Kent are voting for the same party.
As they both live in the past where they were historic political opposites, GB news can put on people who tie into those historic opposites so they feel its balanced wherears in fact they're offering them the same juice the Tories are offering.
It is not balance. Balance would be Neil not spending 1/3 of the interview with Sunak on pensions, where rising wages were only mentioned in the context of it being a driver of state pension rises. . Think about that for a moment.
What are the priorities here.
The other 1/3 of that interview was about the 'cost' of going green, as presumably the target audience will be dead when the cost of not going green will be felt. The inference being "why are we paying for this - we'll be dead anyway".
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This is probably fair. However a few weeks in and there are noticeable improvements in production and programming. In terms of viewing figures I guess it's a waiting game. Maybe they're about what they were aiming for, if not maybe they hope that they will pick up organically via word of mouth, social media etc? If not will they advertise, or chase ratings by hiring more controversial presenters? Maybe they don't care? I don't know. I've really enjoyed a lot of the of the programs and debates but then again I've actually watched a fair bit of it in order to arrive at my opinion. Revolutionary I know.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.0 -
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.0 -
This Paul Embery
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Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.rick_chasey said:
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.
Not that I've watched an enormous amount of GB News, but maybe you should tell me what programmes I should be watching given that I'm a graduate with a professional qualification?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Did you miss the "or" there?- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Stevo_666 said:
Funny that, as people who tend to be 'right leaning' are often pretty successful, which usually does not correlate well with your uneducated premise.rick_chasey said:
It was billed as 'right leaning' and in the current context that means leaning towards old and/or uneducated.rjsterry said:I don't think you need to go in for RC's political realignment hobby horse, so much as just recognising that
1. the people setting up GB News have significantly overestimated the size of the supposed silent majority who share their view of the world,
2. They put too much store in the prowess of Neil as a political broadcaster and not enough in all the stuff that goes to making a TV station actually function.
o rly.
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In case you guys missed this. The guys shares platforms with Farage, no wonder he was invited on as a token/cuckoo lefty...elbowloh said:This Paul Embery
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