Critérium du Dauphiné 2021 ***Spoilers***

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,490

    gweeds said:

    Froome caught by his minute man.

    poor guy
    Who was his minute guy?
    Pollit I think.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,615
    He used to be a genuine favourite for most TTs.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,564
    Froome came in 2:12 down, 93/141.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    It's getting quite hard to believe.... 😥
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,905
    gweeds said:

    Froome came in 2:12 down, 93/141.

    You wouldn't think his weight would be as big a factor in a TT so his power must be some way off still.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,919
    It's just not happening for Froome is it. He was giving the impression his recent altitude camp went very well. Certainly a long way off being a GC contender again, and even stage wins look well beyond him.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,490

    It's just not happening for Froome is it. He was giving the impression his recent altitude camp went very well. Certainly a long way off being a GC contender again, and even stage wins look well beyond him.

    Feels different to Cav who I generally felt could get a result again at any time and go back to winning regularly (although by time that did happen I had pretty much written him off). He always felt like it was just a couple of percent improvement needed but for a GC contender Froome seems worlds away from the wins again and I really don't see how he will get back there. In the meantime there are several young riders coming through that could have challenged him at his best.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,738
    It's a shame - I think people would really warm to Froome if he could have an Indian Summer and I don't care how thick skinned he is or that he's done well from the sport it'd be nice for him to have a couple of years where he is the one the crowds are cheering for.
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,905
    edited June 2021
    In his time trials this season he's finished 83rd, 90th, 109th, and 93rd.

    That compares to last year when in TTs he managed 80th and 86th in his two races. He doesn't really seem to be showing any progress, with his last three stage races resulting in 81st, 93rd, and 96th place overall.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,596
    I'm guessing ISN are wondering what they have done.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,750

    I'm guessing ISN are wondering what they have done.

    Said it before - Got the sponsors on board. Job done.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,150
    pblakeney said:

    I'm guessing ISN are wondering what they have done.

    Said it before - Got the sponsors on board. Job done.
    Also a boost in status. They can attract better riders now. The money is a drop in the ocean for Adams and Baron
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  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,253
    Ineos knew or were pretty certain he wasn't going to be worth the big ££ when they let him go. But he gets ISN publicity.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,150
    amrushton said:

    Ineos knew or were pretty certain he wasn't going to be worth the big ££ when they let him go. But he gets ISN publicity.


    I think even without the crash Ineos may have moved on to the next generation anyway
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,750
    RichN95. said:

    amrushton said:

    Ineos knew or were pretty certain he wasn't going to be worth the big ££ when they let him go. But he gets ISN publicity.


    I think even without the crash Ineos may have moved on to the next generation anyway
    Not while there was a realistic hope of 5 Tours.
    Those days appear to be gone.
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,467
    pblakeney said:

    RichN95. said:

    amrushton said:

    Ineos knew or were pretty certain he wasn't going to be worth the big ££ when they let him go. But he gets ISN publicity.


    I think even without the crash Ineos may have moved on to the next generation anyway
    Not while there was a realistic hope of 5 Tours.
    Those days appear to be gone.
    Without his crash he'd have probably won in 2019.

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,231
    Looks like today's point of interest comes with 15km to go. 1km at 13% with mostly downhill and probably fairly technical after that.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/14504600
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    edited June 2021
    55 to go, a superbreak have just over a minute but are playing silly games.

    BH and BV chasing

    Break:
    Tim Wellens (Lotto-Soudal),
    Tsgabu Grmay (BikeExchange),
    Julien Bernard, Ryan Mullen and Jasper Stuyven (Trek-Segafredo),
    Kasper Asgreen, Josef Cerny (Deceuninck-Quick Step)
    Cyril Gautier (B&B-KTM)


    Ryan Mullen and Josef Cerny have attacked/been let off the front a little further

    All a bit weird
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    Superbreak implodes

    42 to go,

    Reduced bunch back together

    Speed High!
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,231
    Looks like it's going to be fast then climb then fast then wall then fast to the line.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    Kwiato and Froome having a natter on the front...
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,311
    Ineos had a quick echelon attempt, didn't amount to anything though.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    edited June 2021
    Sven Erik Bystrøm goes up the road and has a minute as they hit the lumpy bits. Proper narrow, windy farm roads.

    Crash at the back - a few down but no big players (which sounds horrible to say, but...)

    28 to go
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    Bystrom's lead went up to a minute but a fight for position in the peloton has halved the gap as we approach the steep climb

    15 to go
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,091
    edited June 2021
    Going to watch this climb in reverse later for old times' sake.

    (Lawson Craddock off the front...)
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    edited June 2021
    Ineos swarm the front with FdJ, not a whole lot of action, just GC Defence

    Lawson Craddock makes an attempt with 900m of climb to go. No response - Not much space on the road and Ineos & FdJ are taking up all of it

    Pacheur battles his way through and 'attacks' with 300 odd m to go.

    Craddock still ahead as they go over the top, has about ?15s

    12 to go
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  • johnboy183
    johnboy183 Posts: 832
    Would Froome/ISN have anything to gain by hiding his true form? Lull everybody into false sense of security then big attack early doors at The Tour, into first and then defend all the Way to Paris?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    A whole lot of nothing produced by this fantastic new climb, bar another chute on the descent.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    edited June 2021
    Anacona and Rolland spend some time practicing CX,

    Ineos have killed this stone dead though. Reduced peloton but Colbrelli in there with a good few team mates.

    Craddock about to be caught as they enter the descent

    8.5 to go
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    ddraver said:

    Anacona and Rolland spend some time practicing CX,

    Ineos have killed this stone dead though. Colbrelli in there too with a good few team mates.

    Craddock about to be caught as they enter the descent

    8.5 to go

    I don't think they did, if Lawson Craddock and Quentin Pacher were able to ride off the front. That's a large group left.
    Just nobody of note could be arsed, as it topped out a fair way from the finish.

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