What's happened to this forum?
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This is the Cake Stop we all know and lovesurfercyclist said:
This.womack said:Been a member (reading only) of this board for nearly six years. Posted first time recently when needing some advice. Advice given fitted the bill so thankful for that.
However was always hesitant to post in the general threads as my reading of the board was that if you weren't one of the established many thousands of posts members your opinions and input were not entertained.
I think / guess this would put a lot of new members off, they may try and engage a couple of times only to find themselves in the middle of a "private conversation" amongst the aforementioned so not bother to try and join in again and just disappear until perhaps they need a bit of technical help.
The other problem I see, on here and other boards to be fair, is that there appears to be one "view" and anybody who disagrees with it is not listened to and branded with some ism.
Edit. Yes I do have a holiday home but never had a company pension, hard work paid for it.
Reason I left was dickheads like Sungod who think they know it all but don't and when get called out they take umbrage and all his little cliche defend him. This is the guy who supposedly gets up at 4am every day, rides every day, stays in the most expensive places, flies first class everywhere but is still working and has got to be mid 70s at least. Something doesn't add up.
Then you have Walter Mitty aka MF who seems to have a strange hatred of clubs, Ultegra and any stem which isn't slammed or wheel which isn't "phat". Tries to be street by dropping in words like "fam" whereas in reality he's a 47 yo white middle class oik in the army. Oh yeah and apparently was going to Everest Hardknot Pass.
No wonder everyone leaves.
Bye.
Calling @sungod and @MattFalle to the thread..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You do know this is the internet don't you?surfercyclist said:
This.womack said:Been a member (reading only) of this board for nearly six years. Posted first time recently when needing some advice. Advice given fitted the bill so thankful for that.
However was always hesitant to post in the general threads as my reading of the board was that if you weren't one of the established many thousands of posts members your opinions and input were not entertained.
I think / guess this would put a lot of new members off, they may try and engage a couple of times only to find themselves in the middle of a "private conversation" amongst the aforementioned so not bother to try and join in again and just disappear until perhaps they need a bit of technical help.
The other problem I see, on here and other boards to be fair, is that there appears to be one "view" and anybody who disagrees with it is not listened to and branded with some ism.
Edit. Yes I do have a holiday home but never had a company pension, hard work paid for it.
Reason I left was dickheads like Sungod who think they know it all but don't and when get called out they take umbrage and all his little cliche defend him. This is the guy who supposedly gets up at 4am every day, rides every day, stays in the most expensive places, flies first class everywhere but is still working and has got to be mid 70s at least. Something doesn't add up.
Then you have Walter Mitty aka MF who seems to have a strange hatred of clubs, Ultegra and any stem which isn't slammed or wheel which isn't "phat". Tries to be street by dropping in words like "fam" whereas in reality he's a 47 yo white middle class oik in the army. Oh yeah and apparently was going to Everest Hardknot Pass.
No wonder everyone leaves.
Bye.
Don't take everything so seriously!0 -
Thought that whinger had already left. Or is it quantum, is both left and not left? Maybe it's too right, or not too right enough?
Too early. Get a coffee. Got loads of soil to shift.0 -
FTFY Rickrick_chasey said:Worst thing about the forum recently is the like function.
My complaint is that the comments attacking me personally always get the most likes.
Makes for more pack-like behaviour
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]4 -
I wonder what the complainers are doing to improve the situation they dislike?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You can on the non mobile site.seanoconn said:
There should be a ranking system of members to do with likes to encourage quality posts/personal attacks 😂rick_chasey said:Worst thing about the forum recently is the like function.
My complaint is that the comments attacking people personally always get the most likes.
Makes for more pack-like behaviour
It would be nice to be able to view who had liked your posts, that might help with misuse (liking a Sh!tty post) if they were publicly available, at least to the recipients.
Although occasionally you may find yourself liking then un-liking an objectionable post.
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Really 😃Jezyboy said:
You can on the non mobile site.seanoconn said:
There should be a ranking system of members to do with likes to encourage quality posts/personal attacks 😂rick_chasey said:Worst thing about the forum recently is the like function.
My complaint is that the comments attacking people personally always get the most likes.
Makes for more pack-like behaviour
It would be nice to be able to view who had liked your posts, that might help with misuse (liking a Sh!tty post) if they were publicly available, at least to the recipients.
Although occasionally you may find yourself liking then un-liking an objectionable post.
I’ll have to fire up the laptop later to see if someone other than my mum has been liking my posts. 👍Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
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seanoconn said:
Really 😃Jezyboy said:
You can on the non mobile site.seanoconn said:
There should be a ranking system of members to do with likes to encourage quality posts/personal attacks 😂rick_chasey said:Worst thing about the forum recently is the like function.
My complaint is that the comments attacking people personally always get the most likes.
Makes for more pack-like behaviour
It would be nice to be able to view who had liked your posts, that might help with misuse (liking a Sh!tty post) if they were publicly available, at least to the recipients.
Although occasionally you may find yourself liking then un-liking an objectionable post.
I’ll have to fire up the laptop later to see if someone other than my mum has been liking my posts. 👍
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What a good idea.seanoconn said:
Really 😃Jezyboy said:
You can on the non mobile site.seanoconn said:
There should be a ranking system of members to do with likes to encourage quality posts/personal attacks 😂rick_chasey said:Worst thing about the forum recently is the like function.
My complaint is that the comments attacking people personally always get the most likes.
Makes for more pack-like behaviour
It would be nice to be able to view who had liked your posts, that might help with misuse (liking a Sh!tty post) if they were publicly available, at least to the recipients.
Although occasionally you may find yourself liking then un-liking an objectionable post.
I’ll have to fire up the laptop later to see if someone other than my mum has been liking my posts. 👍seanoconn - gruagach craic!2 -
No one takes MF seriously.surfercyclist said:
This.womack said:Been a member (reading only) of this board for nearly six years. Posted first time recently when needing some advice. Advice given fitted the bill so thankful for that.
However was always hesitant to post in the general threads as my reading of the board was that if you weren't one of the established many thousands of posts members your opinions and input were not entertained.
I think / guess this would put a lot of new members off, they may try and engage a couple of times only to find themselves in the middle of a "private conversation" amongst the aforementioned so not bother to try and join in again and just disappear until perhaps they need a bit of technical help.
The other problem I see, on here and other boards to be fair, is that there appears to be one "view" and anybody who disagrees with it is not listened to and branded with some ism.
Edit. Yes I do have a holiday home but never had a company pension, hard work paid for it.
Reason I left was dickheads like Sungod who think they know it all but don't and when get called out they take umbrage and all his little cliche defend him. This is the guy who supposedly gets up at 4am every day, rides every day, stays in the most expensive places, flies first class everywhere but is still working and has got to be mid 70s at least. Something doesn't add up.
Then you have Walter Mitty aka MF who seems to have a strange hatred of clubs, Ultegra and any stem which isn't slammed or wheel which isn't "phat". Tries to be street by dropping in words like "fam" whereas in reality he's a 47 yo white middle class oik in the army. Oh yeah and apparently was going to Everest Hardknot Pass.
No wonder everyone leaves.
Bye.
SG is a man of mystery. I suggest you don't go to Itsu and you don't drink the tea.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
As you say most of the activity is in the traditional day which excludes bus drivers etcshortfall said:
You know that people can log into forums outside of work hours though right? The fact that most of the activity seems to take place amongst the demographic and times you have identified raises the question why other people choose not to? There are probably tons of reasons for this but if one of them is that some people feel like their opinions arent valued for whatever reason, then that's something that can be easily addressed. Robust debate is fine and what we're all here for but condescension not so much. it's not always overt and it's probably not even done consciously most of the time but it exists. Just my thoughts, I'm sure I'd get on fine with most of you if we were sat in a pub (or the wine bar obviously 😉)surrey_commuter said:
I am nowhere near centre leftshortfall said:
Just to clarify. I have nothing against centre left middle class white blokes with holiday homes and good pensions, just that it would be nice to see a more diverse body of opinion sometimes. On the holiday homes thing, there was recently a thread dedicated to buying a second home abroad and another about a bloke with a double glazed shed and I thought those two topics were the perfect metaphor for cakestop.surrey_commuter said:
I am reeling from discovering that other than RJST I am the only one without a holiday hometailwindhome said:Am I to understand there are too many woke people and not enough diversity?
middle class
white (but could not pass for it)
bloke
not even the hint of a holiday home
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Yes but why aren't Bus Drivers (or road sweepers, or supermarket workers or whatever) logging on and contributing after work? Presumably they ride bikes too?surrey_commuter said:
As you say most of the activity is in the traditional day which excludes bus drivers etcshortfall said:
You know that people can log into forums outside of work hours though right? The fact that most of the activity seems to take place amongst the demographic and times you have identified raises the question why other people choose not to? There are probably tons of reasons for this but if one of them is that some people feel like their opinions arent valued for whatever reason, then that's something that can be easily addressed. Robust debate is fine and what we're all here for but condescension not so much. it's not always overt and it's probably not even done consciously most of the time but it exists. Just my thoughts, I'm sure I'd get on fine with most of you if we were sat in a pub (or the wine bar obviously 😉)surrey_commuter said:
I am nowhere near centre leftshortfall said:
Just to clarify. I have nothing against centre left middle class white blokes with holiday homes and good pensions, just that it would be nice to see a more diverse body of opinion sometimes. On the holiday homes thing, there was recently a thread dedicated to buying a second home abroad and another about a bloke with a double glazed shed and I thought those two topics were the perfect metaphor for cakestop.surrey_commuter said:
I am reeling from discovering that other than RJST I am the only one without a holiday hometailwindhome said:Am I to understand there are too many woke people and not enough diversity?
middle class
white (but could not pass for it)
bloke
not even the hint of a holiday home
the audience is self selecting as you need to be able to have access to a computer throughout the working day with no monitoring0 -
There seems to be a bit of a theme that people want to be able to post their opinions and not be challenged about them.
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No there isn't...morstar said:There seems to be a bit of a theme that people want to be able to post their opinions and not be challenged about them.
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It's more to do with not wanting to be talked down to or mocked for having an opinion that's not shared by a core group of posters. Robust debate is fine, banter is fine, getting occasionally angry is fine but the question is why is it such a narrow and ever decreasing demographic generating the majority of the content?morstar said:There seems to be a bit of a theme that people want to be able to post their opinions and not be challenged about them.
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I think the loss of posters is a natural thing (from all viewpoints). The problem is there is no new blood coming in for reasons already mentioned.shortfall said:
It's more to do with not wanting to be talked down to or mocked for having an opinion that's not shared by a core group of posters. Robust debate is fine, banter is fine, getting occasionally angry is fine but the question is why is it such a narrow and ever decreasing demographic generating the majority of the content?morstar said:There seems to be a bit of a theme that people want to be able to post their opinions and not be challenged about them.
Errrmmm
I also think the demographic is massively self selecting by virtue of being a cycling forum. Cycling was still pretty niche only a decade ago which is probably when I stumbled across a very vibrant bike radar forum.0 -
from some of the posters above, yup, this completely then chucking a bit of abuse out and scuttling off to hide under their rocks again.Pross said:
"Leaving" whilst still having an account and reading posts apparently.pblakeney said:I wonder what the complainers are doing to improve the situation they dislike?
tbh, its the sort of person who is a tool in real life amd given this place is no more than an electronic pub you'd just give their table of braying scheemgles a wide berth anyway in real life..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I remember surfercyclist from a while back. He was around on BB when the MFs took a break in Belize or Burundi or wherever.
He came across as an utter pr1ck if I remember rightly, so much so that I thought he was one the MF's taking the piss to see what he could get away with.1 -
143 posts on this thread already - a few old posters coming out of the woodwork for a good moan - things are looking up.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Snowflakes.0
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Been here a long time, and from a non-UK perspective, this place has changed from a fairly broad-based topics site to one that is much narrower since Brexit and Covid happened. Politics and current affairs are the subject-du-jour. Bikes? Hardly get a mention...
I genuinely feel sorry for you UK residents having gone through all that. The average tone of posts here has markedly changed in the last few years, from relatively cheerful overall to something that sounds a lot less happy. I doubt thats intentional; more like just a reflection of what life is like at the moment.
Still a worthwhile place to drop in.Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS1 -
A lot of second hand bikes. I'm quite hard on bikes in general. I have also bought one new frame.pblakeney said:
How many second hand? 😉TheBigBean said:I've only ever bought one new bike in my life. That was in 2006.
I will clarify. I last bought a frame in 2011.0 -
Pop corn time again.
Love it.
seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Oh yes, I remember that... at the time I was sceptical about it... I always thought you need a particular mindset for that challenge and MF seems the restless kind, who would give up quite early on...surfercyclist said:Oh yeah and apparently was going to Everest Hardknot Pass.
No wonder everyone leaves.
Bye.
Last December I set out to do a half in the Cotswolds, but I lost the will to live after a third... I figured out it was going to get dark and I was bored stiff... If I had to do it again, I wouldn't rely on SPAM
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As you are here... I've tried to send you a part refund on paypal for the Audax, but the money was returned... what shall I do, shall I send it to your brother instead?hopkinb said:I remember surfercyclist from a while back. He was around on BB when the MFs took a break in Belize or Burundi or wherever.
He came across as an utter pr1ck if I remember rightly, so much so that I thought he was one the MF's taking the piss to see what he could get away with.left the forum March 20230 -
ugo.santalucia said:
As you are here... I've tried to send you a part refund on paypal for the Audax, but the money was returned... what shall I do, shall I send it to your brother instead?hopkinb said:I remember surfercyclist from a while back. He was around on BB when the MFs took a break in Belize or Burundi or wherever.
He came across as an utter pr1ck if I remember rightly, so much so that I thought he was one the MF's taking the piss to see what he could get away with.
That's spy talk, for sure.1
