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  • briantrumpetbriantrumpet Posts: 6,834

    hopkinb said:

    I remember surfercyclist from a while back. He was around on BB when the MFs took a break in Belize or Burundi or wherever.

    He came across as an utter pr1ck if I remember rightly, so much so that I thought he was one the MF's taking the piss to see what he could get away with.

    As you are here... I've tried to send you a part refund on paypal for the Audax, but the money was returned... what shall I do, shall I send it to your brother instead?

    That's spy talk, for sure.
  • hopkinbhopkinb Posts: 6,799

    hopkinb said:

    I remember surfercyclist from a while back. He was around on BB when the MFs took a break in Belize or Burundi or wherever.

    He came across as an utter pr1ck if I remember rightly, so much so that I thought he was one the MF's taking the piss to see what he could get away with.

    As you are here... I've tried to send you a part refund on paypal for the Audax, but the money was returned... what shall I do, shall I send it to your brother instead?
    Hi Ugo, yes please, send to my brother. I keep getting the emails, but I don't have PayPal. Tbh you could keep it as far as I'm concerned, the amount of effort you would have already put in. Totally up to you.
  • surrey_commutersurrey_commuter Posts: 13,690
    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    Am I to understand there are too many woke people and not enough diversity?

    I am reeling from discovering that other than RJST I am the only one without a holiday home
    Just to clarify. I have nothing against centre left middle class white blokes with holiday homes and good pensions, just that it would be nice to see a more diverse body of opinion sometimes. On the holiday homes thing, there was recently a thread dedicated to buying a second home abroad and another about a bloke with a double glazed shed and I thought those two topics were the perfect metaphor for cakestop.
    I am nowhere near centre left
    middle class
    white (but could not pass for it)
    bloke
    not even the hint of a holiday home

    the audience is self selecting as you need to be able to have access to a computer throughout the working day with no monitoring
    You know that people can log into forums outside of work hours though right? The fact that most of the activity seems to take place amongst the demographic and times you have identified raises the question why other people choose not to? There are probably tons of reasons for this but if one of them is that some people feel like their opinions arent valued for whatever reason, then that's something that can be easily addressed. Robust debate is fine and what we're all here for but condescension not so much. it's not always overt and it's probably not even done consciously most of the time but it exists. Just my thoughts, I'm sure I'd get on fine with most of you if we were sat in a pub (or the wine bar obviously 😉)
    As you say most of the activity is in the traditional day which excludes bus drivers etc
    Yes but why aren't Bus Drivers (or road sweepers, or supermarket workers or whatever) logging on and contributing after work? Presumably they ride bikes too?
    A lot less activity here outside of work hours so they would be unlikely to get any to and fro
  • elbowlohelbowloh Posts: 5,816
    Don't bus drivers work shifts? Earlies and lates?
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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 15,299
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    I wonder what the complainers are doing to improve the situation they dislike?

    "Leaving" whilst still having an account and reading posts apparently.
    In other words, nothing.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 4,290
    edited 1 May
    hopkinb said:

    I remember surfercyclist from a while back. He was around on BB when the MFs took a break in Belize or Burundi or wherever.

    He came across as an utter pr1ck if I remember rightly, so much so that I thought he was one the MF's taking the piss to see what he could get away with.

    ah yes - thats the one. i also thought he was a comedy trolling figure just set up by someone to cause trouble. turns out he wasn't and actually is a real person.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 4,290

    Oh yeah and apparently was going to Everest Hardknot Pass.

    No wonder everyone leaves.
    Bye.

    Oh yes, I remember that... at the time I was sceptical about it... I always thought you need a particular mindset for that challenge and MF seems the restless kind, who would give up quite early on...
    Last December I set out to do a half in the Cotswolds, but I lost the will to live after a third... I figured out it was going to get dark and I was bored stiff... If I had to do it again, I wouldn't rely on SPAM

    https://www.strava.com/activities/4475094635

    MF got sidetracked by work for that jaunt but, tbh, its still on a back burner.

    you are very, very correct that MF is a very restless kind - v low boredom threshold.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 26,158
    MattFalle said:

    Oh yeah and apparently was going to Everest Hardknot Pass.

    No wonder everyone leaves.
    Bye.

    Oh yes, I remember that... at the time I was sceptical about it... I always thought you need a particular mindset for that challenge and MF seems the restless kind, who would give up quite early on...
    Last December I set out to do a half in the Cotswolds, but I lost the will to live after a third... I figured out it was going to get dark and I was bored stiff... If I had to do it again, I wouldn't rely on SPAM

    https://www.strava.com/activities/4475094635

    MF got sidetracked by work for that jaunt but, tbh, its still on a back burner.

    you are very, very correct that MF is a very restless kind - v low boredom threshold.
    Not for you then, by my 1/3 of an experience, it is really a tedious thing to do... I broke it down into chunks of 3 ascents, with food breaks in between, trying to vary the food to make it more interesting (chocolate next time... etc.. ) but to no avail... you pretty quickly realise you are doing something stupid
  • hopkinbhopkinb Posts: 6,799
    I reckon if I was going to everest anything. It would be Mount Everest.

    Obvs would need a bigger cog than a 28 at the back, maybe a 32 or 34 at a push, but with some spiked ice tyres and some sherpas to carry me and my bike up and over the tricky bits, I reckon its doable.

    Heads off to look for a permit for next climbing season...
  • morstarmorstar Posts: 4,341
    hopkinb said:

    I reckon if I was going to everest anything. It would be Mount Everest.

    Obvs would need a bigger cog than a 28 at the back, maybe a 32 or 34 at a push, but with some spiked ice tyres and some sherpas to carry me and my bike up and over the tricky bits, I reckon its doable.

    Heads off to look for a permit for next climbing season...

    Lack of ambition. Summit days are during the next two weeks.
    Get a flight booked now.
  • hopkinbhopkinb Posts: 6,799
    morstar said:

    hopkinb said:

    I reckon if I was going to everest anything. It would be Mount Everest.

    Obvs would need a bigger cog than a 28 at the back, maybe a 32 or 34 at a push, but with some spiked ice tyres and some sherpas to carry me and my bike up and over the tricky bits, I reckon its doable.

    Heads off to look for a permit for next climbing season...

    Lack of ambition. Summit days are during the next two weeks.
    Get a flight booked now.
    On it. Pretty sure it falls inside the rules for essential travel. Got to get a long cage rear derailleur too though, and with the component shortage, I could be pushing it...
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,116
    hopkinb said:

    I reckon if I was going to everest anything. It would be Mount Everest.

    Obvs would need a bigger cog than a 28 at the back, maybe a 32 or 34 at a push, but with some spiked ice tyres and some sherpas to carry me and my bike up and over the tricky bits, I reckon its doable.

    Heads off to look for a permit for next climbing season...

    After that you can try trenching. Better dig out your snorkel...

  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 26,158
    hopkinb said:

    morstar said:

    hopkinb said:

    I reckon if I was going to everest anything. It would be Mount Everest.

    Obvs would need a bigger cog than a 28 at the back, maybe a 32 or 34 at a push, but with some spiked ice tyres and some sherpas to carry me and my bike up and over the tricky bits, I reckon its doable.

    Heads off to look for a permit for next climbing season...

    Lack of ambition. Summit days are during the next two weeks.
    Get a flight booked now.
    On it. Pretty sure it falls inside the rules for essential travel. Got to get a long cage rear derailleur too though, and with the component shortage, I could be pushing it...
    "Into thin air" Jon Krakauer... a riveting book... unmissable
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 54,984 Lives Here

    Been here a long time, and from a non-UK perspective, this place has changed from a fairly broad-based topics site to one that is much narrower since Brexit and Covid happened. Politics and current affairs are the subject-du-jour. Bikes? Hardly get a mention...

    I genuinely feel sorry for you UK residents having gone through all that. The average tone of posts here has markedly changed in the last few years, from relatively cheerful overall to something that sounds a lot less happy. I doubt thats intentional; more like just a reflection of what life is like at the moment.

    Still a worthwhile place to drop in.

    Lol
  • morstarmorstar Posts: 4,341

    hopkinb said:

    morstar said:

    hopkinb said:

    I reckon if I was going to everest anything. It would be Mount Everest.

    Obvs would need a bigger cog than a 28 at the back, maybe a 32 or 34 at a push, but with some spiked ice tyres and some sherpas to carry me and my bike up and over the tricky bits, I reckon its doable.

    Heads off to look for a permit for next climbing season...

    Lack of ambition. Summit days are during the next two weeks.
    Get a flight booked now.
    On it. Pretty sure it falls inside the rules for essential travel. Got to get a long cage rear derailleur too though, and with the component shortage, I could be pushing it...
    "Into thin air" Jon Krakauer... a riveting book... unmissable
    Yes, Krakauer is a good writer.
    I actually stumbled across some excerpts from into the wild in a magazine moons ago and he totally captures the emotions of climbing and puts you in the moment.

    Into Thin air is a great read. It’s funny how the book is his story so the events are all seen from his perspective whereas in the drama film of the same event he is a very fringe character.
  • johngtijohngti Posts: 1,534

    Am I to understand there are too many woke people and not enough diversity?

    I am reeling from discovering that other than RJST I am the only one without a holiday home
    Me neither. Pension could have been awesome if not for getting divorced
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 45,499

    Been here a long time, and from a non-UK perspective, this place has changed from a fairly broad-based topics site to one that is much narrower since Brexit and Covid happened. Politics and current affairs are the subject-du-jour. Bikes? Hardly get a mention...

    I genuinely feel sorry for you UK residents having gone through all that. The average tone of posts here has markedly changed in the last few years, from relatively cheerful overall to something that sounds a lot less happy. I doubt thats intentional; more like just a reflection of what life is like at the moment.

    Still a worthwhile place to drop in.

    WS, I think what you're trying to say politely is that there are some miserable, moany ****ers on here? I feel vindicated :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 45,499
    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    I wonder what the complainers are doing to improve the situation they dislike?

    "Leaving" whilst still having an account and reading posts apparently.
    from some of the posters above, yup, this completely then chucking a bit of abuse out and scuttling off to hide under their rocks again.

    tbh, its the sort of person who is a tool in real life amd given this place is no more than an electronic pub you'd just give their table of braying scheemgles a wide berth anyway in real life.
    I've noticed this as well. There are a few posters who seemed to pop up, have a little go and get their frustration off their chest then disappear under their bridge again. I miss them actually :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 6,248

    Been here a long time, and from a non-UK perspective, this place has changed from a fairly broad-based topics site to one that is much narrower since Brexit and Covid happened. Politics and current affairs are the subject-du-jour. Bikes? Hardly get a mention...

    I genuinely feel sorry for you UK residents having gone through all that. The average tone of posts here has markedly changed in the last few years, from relatively cheerful overall to something that sounds a lot less happy. I doubt thats intentional; more like just a reflection of what life is like at the moment.

    Still a worthwhile place to drop in.

    Lol
    Despite the world being such an uplifting place the last couple of years, we are still miserable.

    You know what, I think a nice holiday somewhere warm and sunny would cheer me up.

    Oh.
  • seanoconnseanoconn Posts: 7,651
    johngti said:

    Am I to understand there are too many woke people and not enough diversity?

    I am reeling from discovering that other than RJST I am the only one without a holiday home
    Me neither. Pension could have been awesome if not for getting divorced
    But on the plus side you have a much younger new wife and all the benefits this entails....

    Babies you’re too old too chase after/play with etc 😂
    Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי
  • johngtijohngti Posts: 1,534
    seanoconn said:

    johngti said:

    Am I to understand there are too many woke people and not enough diversity?

    I am reeling from discovering that other than RJST I am the only one without a holiday home
    Me neither. Pension could have been awesome if not for getting divorced
    But on the plus side you have a much younger new wife and all the benefits this entails....

    Babies you’re too old too chase after/play with etc 😂
    Now that you put it that way...censored .
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 45,499
    johngti said:



    I am a socialist and proud of that so whoever said there weren’t any left they were wrong.

    Maybe change your username to 'Token? :p
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 15,974
    Stevo_666 said:

    Been here a long time, and from a non-UK perspective, this place has changed from a fairly broad-based topics site to one that is much narrower since Brexit and Covid happened. Politics and current affairs are the subject-du-jour. Bikes? Hardly get a mention...

    I genuinely feel sorry for you UK residents having gone through all that. The average tone of posts here has markedly changed in the last few years, from relatively cheerful overall to something that sounds a lot less happy. I doubt thats intentional; more like just a reflection of what life is like at the moment.

    Still a worthwhile place to drop in.

    WS, I think what you're trying to say politely is that there are some miserable, moany ****ers on here? I feel vindicated :)
    Your favourite moan, isn't it?
  • tetley10tetley10 Posts: 530
    johngti said:

    I’d like to add a couple of points if I may. All about me, of course.

    I am a socialist and proud of that so whoever said there weren’t any left they were wrong.

    I disagree with MF about Ultegra but don’t care that he has a different opinion and have no interest in arguing about it. I also think campagnolo is lovely but have little time for sram.

    I was in a club but threw a hissy fit and stormed away from it, burning bridges as I went. Now I have no friends so come here to pretend that I do.

    Thank you and carry on.

    I don't care that you threw a hissy fit, you're good a fixing bikes so...
    Who can really care too much about what someone on an internet forum says?

  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 45,499

    Stevo_666 said:

    Been here a long time, and from a non-UK perspective, this place has changed from a fairly broad-based topics site to one that is much narrower since Brexit and Covid happened. Politics and current affairs are the subject-du-jour. Bikes? Hardly get a mention...

    I genuinely feel sorry for you UK residents having gone through all that. The average tone of posts here has markedly changed in the last few years, from relatively cheerful overall to something that sounds a lot less happy. I doubt thats intentional; more like just a reflection of what life is like at the moment.

    Still a worthwhile place to drop in.

    WS, I think what you're trying to say politely is that there are some miserable, moany ****ers on here? I feel vindicated :)
    Your favourite moan, isn't it?
    I see my post prompted you to respond :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpetbriantrumpet Posts: 6,834
    I see that the point scoring continues even amongst the navel gazing. Good work.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 41,635

    I see that the point scoring continues even amongst the navel gazing. Good work.

    Currently standing at 142 each I think BT.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 4,290

    MattFalle said:

    Oh yeah and apparently was going to Everest Hardknot Pass.

    No wonder everyone leaves.
    Bye.

    Oh yes, I remember that... at the time I was sceptical about it... I always thought you need a particular mindset for that challenge and MF seems the restless kind, who would give up quite early on...
    Last December I set out to do a half in the Cotswolds, but I lost the will to live after a third... I figured out it was going to get dark and I was bored stiff... If I had to do it again, I wouldn't rely on SPAM

    https://www.strava.com/activities/4475094635

    MF got sidetracked by work for that jaunt but, tbh, its still on a back burner.

    you are very, very correct that MF is a very restless kind - v low boredom threshold.
    Not for you then, by my 1/3 of an experience, it is really a tedious thing to do... I broke it down into chunks of 3 ascents, with food breaks in between, trying to vary the food to make it more interesting (chocolate next time... etc.. ) but to no avail... you pretty quickly realise you are doing something stupid
    methinks ypu are right but tbh still tempted to give it a go - whack some 'phones on and just pedal.

    also thinking whether what would be quicker and therefore less boring - short 'n' steep or long 'n' grindy....
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 4,290
    johngti said:

    I’d like to add a couple of points if I may. All about me, of course.

    I am a socialist and proud of that so whoever said there weren’t any left they were wrong.

    I disagree with MF about Ultegra but don’t care that he has a different opinion and have no interest in arguing about it. I also think campagnolo is lovely but have little time for sram.

    I was in a club but threw a hissy fit and stormed away from it, burning bridges as I went. Now I have no friends so come here to pretend that I do.

    Thank you and carry on.

    You may have guessed that MF's politics may be ever so slightly left leaning, so that makes two of us. If anyone has a problem with that I am happy to fight them.

    Nah - MF is right about Ultegra. Even Shimano agree with him secretly. MF has seen the emails but they aren't going to say it publicly as Ultegra is the biggest cash cow since that Pinzi dude (obvs before he got busted).

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