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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,905

    Good point, make them play a half hour of extra time until somebody wins.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Replays on a Wednesday.

    Second replays.

    Them w't days.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,562

    What was that quote? Something along the lines of "You'll never win anything playing a bunch of kids.".

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,498

    Milk is still around though :)

  • Rest in peace, Salvatore.

  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,583

    Quite!

    Everyone has their 15 minutes of fame but this bloke had a few glorious weeks in the summer of '90. Seemed to come from nowhere (relatively speaking) and seemingly went back there but he was fantastic in that world cup

    Wilier Izoard XP
  • I thoroughly enjoyed how successful Kyle Walker's attempts at putting off Gabriel while defending a corner were yesterday. It was almost poetic.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    City also swapped markers, so Walker could take care of Arsenal's biggest threat in Gabriel.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    The other interesting thing about the game is it showed that City run out of ideas against a well disciplined defence and have difficulty defending corners. Hopefully, some other teams learn from this.

  • I am quite enjoying Pep Guardiola complaining that Arsenal were using the "dark arts".

    Really? Who do you think taught Mr Artera how to break up a game with niggly fouls distributed evenly across the team?

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    Arteta was pretty legendary in his playing days for it. His ability to concede a deliberate foul without getting a yellow was widely admired.

  • It is still hypocrisy on a remarkable scale. Pep's Barca team were masters at this.

  • Guardiola is like a lot of very successful people who feign modesty. He is very gracious to teams he beats but any serious challengers and he quickly gets the digs in about their attitude/behaviour/performance.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    Defender Stones claimed Arsenal were using goalkeeper Raya to allow Arteta to deliver tactical instructions to his team during such breaks in play.

    He said: "They get the keeper on the floor so they can get some information on to the pitch."

    Arsenal substitute Myles Lewis-Skelly was booked - before he'd even made his Premier League debut - during a break in play for 'unsporting behaviour'. That was after the 17-year-old went behind the Arsenal goal and spoke to Raya shortly before he went down for treatment in the 65th minute for cramp. Arteta, subsequently, took the opportunity to speak to his players on the side of the pitch.

    This is completely true. Arsenal have done it for the last two seasons. What intrigues me is no pundit or commentator has ever noticed. At least yesterday, City got a team talk too whereas half the time the other side usually just mills around in their on field positions.

  • Not sure how it is different from an out field player going down with an injury requiring amputation, the manager speaking to other players, and then the player hopping back up. In fact I'm struggling to think of a team that doesn't do this, other than Man United (who aren't coached at all).

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    It's completely different. The entire Arsenal team disappears to the benches for a team talk. Usually midway through a half. Bit like a US style timeout.

  • Is there a rule preventing this, when someone is being treated for an injury?

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    No. Not at present.

  • I don't see the issue to be honest. Klopp would sometimes do it also.

    I think your real objection is feigning injury to allow the time to do it. Add that to the list of issues with players feigning injury - to time waste, to get opponents sent off, to get penalties, to have a rest etc.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    I was highlighting a tactical change that seems to have only just been picked up. I didn't state an objection although I do think it should be prevented.

  • The objection was implied by the post you replied to and the use of langue such as "at least this time" etc.

    I don't mind it to be honest, other than the feigning injury aspect.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    Preplanned injury feigning is a big part of the plan.

  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,296

    Pansymoneyball innit.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,905

    On the plus side, both City and Arsenal dropped points.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Keeper can't leave the field for treatment so the game is definitely stopped for a period and you aren't down to 10men for the next 60 (might be 30?) seconds which they've introduced to stop players doing this as keepers don't need to go off after treatment.

    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • Yes, but ref., I banged my head.

    Same thing. Just feign a head injury.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    Do you have a point?

  • Implement an off pitch mandatory HIA, that will stop it.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,058

    A lot of the problem with head injuries is them not being taken seriously enough, so I don't think that's a good idea.

    They were supposed to be cracking down on play acting a few seasons ago by reviewing the incident and sanctioning players.

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