Milan - San Remo 2021 ***Spoilers***

ddraver

....and they all stop

blazing_saddles

Now they are toodling quietly down the descent.
What an awful race.

rick_chasey

Winning move that

rick_chasey

rick_chasey said:

Winning move that

Or not haha

ddraver

Big names all watching each other.

Small names come out to play

ddraver

Sagan on MvdPs wheel...??

rick_chasey

rick_chasey said:

rick_chasey said:

Winning move that

Or not haha

Ignore me

ddraver

That is an epic win for Jasper Stuyven...

TheBigBean

Some quick editing could help here.

bobmcstuff

ddraver said:

That is an epic win for Jasper Stuyven...

Wow.

Nice finish that. Stuyven had one way to win and he played a blinder

blazing_saddles

Shambles of a race.

RichN95.

Great effort by Stuyven. He deserved that. I though Caleb might do a Cavendish on him.

ddraver

ddraver said:

Sagan on MvdPs wheel...??

He was charging at the end but just a little too far back. Glad to see him on the mend

phreak

Fortune favoured the brave. Well done. I don't think there's been a multiple winner since Oscar Freire so no surprise that a new name got the win.

Pross

Always a chance in this race if you aren't a "big name" and get to the top of the Poggio in a group. Great ride by Ewan but I think his presence had an impact on the chasing. Ineos did some excellent work but just no-one there for that sort of finish. Sagan shows he's not finished.

RichN95.

Sagan fourth after being laid low with Covid. Let's not bury his career just yet.

rick_chasey

Phew

ddraver

He owes Soren a beer or two...

Thoughts for Not a Doc at this difficult time.🤏

salsiccia1

Nice win for Stuyven. Caleb Ewan being there stopped a proper chase

No_Ta_Doctor

I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

RichN95.

No_Ta_Doctor said:

I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

In retrospect they should have tried to place Ganna in the select group as he could do what Stuyven did (and maybe better). Neither Pidcock or Kwiato was going to win.

Pross

No_Ta_Doctor said:

I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.

gsk82

Pross said:

No_Ta_Doctor said:

I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.

Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.

salsiccia1

gsk82 said:

Pross said:

No_Ta_Doctor said:

I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.

Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.

Pidcock might get there eventually but Skineos' return in the big one-dayers is borderline scandalous given their resources.

Pross

gsk82 said:

Pross said:

No_Ta_Doctor said:

I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.

Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.

They had Thomas too but turned him into a Tour winner plus Stannard. I think Pidcock could be a contender although it's hard to know what direction his career will go. I also think Ganna has the ability to be a Cancellara style rider if allowed.

m.r.m.

salsiccia1 said:

gsk82 said:

Pross said:

No_Ta_Doctor said:

I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.

Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.

Pidcock might get there eventually but Skineos' return in the big one-dayers is borderline scandalous given their resources.

Think it can only ever happen in the very hilly stuff. Pidcock is too light and thus lacks the power compared to the others.

Both Ganna' and MvdP's (especially last season) road careers are being hampered by their Olympic ambitions. Due to Covid delaying the Olympics mainly.

gweeds

Anyone will GvA will ever win another big race?

gsk82

gweeds said:

Anyone will GvA will ever win another big race?

Not a single day race. Maybe some grand tour stages

Dorset_Boy

MvdP has uploaded his mere 306 kms to Strava https://strava.com/activities/4979121895
Only 307 watts (or 293 w depending on method) weighted average power, and 241 w average power, for 6 hrs 50 mins!
44.9 kmh average speed!

david37

Dorset_Boy said:

MvdP has uploaded his mere 306 kms to Strava https://strava.com/activities/4979121895
Only 307 watts (or 293 w depending on method) weighted average power, and 241 w average power, for 6 hrs 50 mins!
44.9 kmh average speed!

BEAST