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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,650
    ....and they all stop
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 19,954
    Now they are toodling quietly down the descent.
    What an awful race.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 62,399 Lives Here
    Winning move that
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 62,399 Lives Here

    Winning move that

    Or not haha
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,650
    edited March 2021
    Big names all watching each other.

    Small names come out to play
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,650
    Sagan on MvdPs wheel...??
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 62,399 Lives Here

    Winning move that

    Or not haha
    Ignore me
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,650
    That is an epic win for Jasper Stuyven...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 16,835
    Some quick editing could help here.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,509
    ddraver said:

    That is an epic win for Jasper Stuyven...

    Wow.

    Nice finish that. Stuyven had one way to win and he played a blinder
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 19,954
    Shambles of a race.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,293
    Great effort by Stuyven. He deserved that. I though Caleb might do a Cavendish on him.
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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,650
    ddraver said:

    Sagan on MvdPs wheel...??

    He was charging at the end but just a little too far back. Glad to see him on the mend
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • phreakphreak Posts: 2,660
    Fortune favoured the brave. Well done. I don't think there's been a multiple winner since Oscar Freire so no surprise that a new name got the win.
  • ProssPross Posts: 32,825
    Always a chance in this race if you aren't a "big name" and get to the top of the Poggio in a group. Great ride by Ewan but I think his presence had an impact on the chasing. Ineos did some excellent work but just no-one there for that sort of finish. Sagan shows he's not finished.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,293
    Sagan fourth after being laid low with Covid. Let's not bury his career just yet.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 62,399 Lives Here
    Phew
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,650
    edited March 2021
    He owes Soren a beer or two...

    Thoughts for Not a Doc at this difficult time.🤏
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,723
    Nice win for Stuyven. Caleb Ewan being there stopped a proper chase
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,848
    I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,293

    I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together


    In retrospect they should have tried to place Ganna in the select group as he could do what Stuyven did (and maybe better). Neither Pidcock or Kwiato was going to win.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 32,825

    I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

    Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.
  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,195
    Pross said:

    I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

    Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.
    Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,723
    gsk82 said:

    Pross said:

    I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

    Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.
    Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.
    Pidcock might get there eventually but Skineos' return in the big one-dayers is borderline scandalous given their resources.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • ProssPross Posts: 32,825
    gsk82 said:

    Pross said:

    I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

    Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.
    Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.
    They had Thomas too but turned him into a Tour winner plus Stannard. I think Pidcock could be a contender although it's hard to know what direction his career will go. I also think Ganna has the ability to be a Cancellara style rider if allowed.
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,707
    edited March 2021

    gsk82 said:

    Pross said:

    I don't think Ineos actually drilled it that hard up the Poggio, but everyone was waiting for the MvdP attack that never came, so it kicked off too late and too many came over the top together

    Yeah, I think Ganna had to push a bit on the approach to get to the front. It felt like Rowe did more damage on the Cipressa, it also felt like he got left on the front too long after the Cipressa possibly as Ganna had got caught behind. I'm quite sure what van Baarle's role was either. They certainly had numbers at the pointy end though which bodes well for races that might suit their leaders a bit more.
    Unfortunately for Ineos they've only ever had one real top class classics leader (kwiatkowski), but they turned him in to a tour de France domestique and he's now on the decline. They've always had plenty of guys who'll be in the top 20, but no one else to contest for the win.
    Pidcock might get there eventually but Skineos' return in the big one-dayers is borderline scandalous given their resources.
    Think it can only ever happen in the very hilly stuff. Pidcock is too light and thus lacks the power compared to the others.

    Both Ganna' and MvdP's (especially last season) road careers are being hampered by their Olympic ambitions. Due to Covid delaying the Olympics mainly.
    PTP Champion 2019
  • gweedsgweeds Posts: 2,412
    Anyone will GvA will ever win another big race?
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,195
    gweeds said:

    Anyone will GvA will ever win another big race?

    Not a single day race. Maybe some grand tour stages
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 5,232
    edited March 2021
    MvdP has uploaded his mere 306 kms to Strava https://strava.com/activities/4979121895
    Only 307 watts (or 293 w depending on method) weighted average power, and 241 w average power, for 6 hrs 50 mins!
    44.9 kmh average speed!
  • david37david37 Posts: 1,313

    MvdP has uploaded his mere 306 kms to Strava https://strava.com/activities/4979121895
    Only 307 watts (or 293 w depending on method) weighted average power, and 241 w average power, for 6 hrs 50 mins!
    44.9 kmh average speed!

    BEAST
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