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  • ProssPross Posts: 32,794

    Do we have a view if MvdP is good going downhill? I know we think JA will commit and WvA can go down faster than him - how does MvdP stack up?

    That was my thinking in picking WVA on PTP. His descent last year was incredible.
  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 3,679
    Seven hours and ten miles of racing. The sheer quixotic nature of the thing is cycling in a nutshell.
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,832
    I love this race.

    Yes, it's a slow burner, but the build up of excitement - reaching its crescendo as they hit the Poggio - is like no other.

    The genius of the parcours is the range of possible winners that it brings in, surely wider than any other race. Pure sprinters, climbers, one day specialists.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 17,661
    Thr crackerjack finale is Bennett & WVA getting onto MVDPs wheel at the bottom of the poggio with Sagan in a group 10 seconds behind
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 62,360 Lives Here

    Thr crackerjack finale is Bennett & WVA getting onto MVDPs wheel at the bottom of the poggio with Sagan in a group 10 seconds behind

    Bennett getting on MvdP's wheel on the Poggio :#:#

    In other news, I saw this pig fly across the sky
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 17,661
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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 16,824

    Dare to dream

    Bennett in a group behind whilst JA sits on the front group slowing them down is a more realistic dream presumably.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 17,661

    Dare to dream

    Bennett in a group behind whilst JA sits on the front group slowing them down is a more realistic dream presumably.
    If Bennett is in a group behind then that group is effectively out of it.
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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 16,824

    Dare to dream

    Bennett in a group behind whilst JA sits on the front group slowing them down is a more realistic dream presumably.
    If Bennett is in a group behind then that group is effectively out of it.

  • JA may be tired tomorrow, as it seems he's running in the 2.30 at Cheltenham today
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,832

    JA may be tired tomorrow, as it seems he's running in the 2.30 at Cheltenham today

    Might be worth a fiver on the double, would pay out about 675 quid.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 20,923
    Had a fiver on the horse. Think it's a better shout.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,286

    JA may be tired tomorrow, as it seems he's running in the 2.30 at Cheltenham today


    Up against Streets of Doyen. Let's hope he doesn't celebrate too early like the last time they met.
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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,644
    edited March 2021
    (can someone exlpain this joke for the Horsenostic of us..? 😶 )
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 20,923
    La Doyenne.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,286
    edited March 2021
    ddraver said:

    (can someone exlpain this joke for the Horsenostic of us..? 😶 )


    There's a horse called Alaphilippe running in the 2.30 at Cheltenham this afternoon.


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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,644
    Yeah see I googled that and still didn't come up with that list...
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  • david37david37 Posts: 1,313

    phreak said:

    The rest of the peloton can't just wait until the Poggio though, can they? It will be interesting to see if the presence of the big three prompts others to try and shake things up from further out.

    So if you're a DS of any team that isn't MvdP, you don't want it to be a particularly punchy final hour or so, as that's the MvdP sweet spot. He can just outride anyone over an hour or so. So you're happy to keep it together, unless maybe you're backing WvA, JA or possibly Gilbert or Nibali, for as long as possible.

    Even then, if I was WvA, I would role the dice and just follow and ride with MvdP and chance the sprint.

    If you're QS you play both sides, have JA go big on the poggio and hope Bennet and or Ballerini can hang onto the peloton up the Poggio.

    if you're someone like a GvA or Naesen you go with the MvdP move and just hope there are enough numbers clear at the back end of the poggio to make it a tactical run in.

    But there are still plenty of sprinters in the peloton so there will still be a lot of interest to keep it together for a sprint > you would definitely urge them to really gun it hard after the Poggio regardless as it would not be totally unforeseen that MvdP and WvA mark themselves out or blow it tactically.
    its the first time ive actually been interested in this race and they'll be just before the two climbs as im waiting in line for a jab. could be a belter
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 24,644
    Pre Race Gruber

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  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,846

    MvDP is the popular PTP pick, but isn't he going to get bored by the Cipressa and attack?

    Ahem...


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  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,846

    Do we have a view if MvdP is good going downhill? I know we think JA will commit and WvA can go down faster than him - how does MvdP stack up?

    Really poor choice of phrasing there @rick_chasey Can we avoid the stack word re Poggio descents please?
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 19,951
    edited March 2021
    My main concern for MvDP is that he has shown a propensity for crap positioning at the pointy end of affairs.
    If he's in his usual, layoff spot towards the top of Poggio, he'll be toast when the other two light the afterburners.
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  • phreakphreak Posts: 2,655

    Do we have a view if MvdP is good going downhill? I know we think JA will commit and WvA can go down faster than him - how does MvdP stack up?

    Really poor choice of phrasing there @rick_chasey Can we avoid the stack word re Poggio descents please?
    It's hard to tell how people's legs will fare after such a long way. A lot of riders could really hit the wall in that finale.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 62,360 Lives Here
    Quite excited for this.

    Can we all pray to the nap gods that the little one will go down tomorrow afternoon?

    Thanks
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 20,923
    I'm sure you'll find 20 minutes to watch the whole race "as live" if necessary.
  • yorkshirerawyorkshireraw Posts: 1,606

    Quite excited for this.

    Can we all pray to the nap gods that the little one will go down tomorrow afternoon?

    Thanks

    Just get them watching. Start em young....
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,832
    Alaphilippe (the nag) outside the top 3...
  • phreakphreak Posts: 2,655
    Can we have a moment for Kwiato, whose season is going so badly he's not even mentioned as a super-duper outside bet?
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 20,923
    mrb123 said:

    Alaphilippe (the nag) outside the top 3...

    Stayed on well for 5th, but well beaten by a horse whose name starts with van.

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