The Royals
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Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.2 -
No way in hell that the beeb is going to throw in a question about Epstein and paedophilia at this time and the royals know it.Pross said:.
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.0 -
Not suggesting they would, I just felt it was misjudged having him on TV. Surely they could have got another family member to give comment?elbowloh said:
No way in hell that the beeb is going to throw in a question about Epstein and paedophilia at this time and the royals know it.Pross said:.
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.1 -
Wee bit of a pattern. Just saying.
Daddy is 18 and starts chatting up a 13yo.
Big brother is 29 and starts dating a 16yo.
Randy?Goodness onlyGhislaine Maxwell for example knows but...-1 -
I thought Andrew was still on the naughty step
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The queen sends you a card when you are 100. Prince Andrew sends you a card when you are 13.1
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Oh for goodness sake. Snowflake having a melt? In my flagged (humour, geddit?) post above, sentences 1 and 2 factually correct. Sentence 3, ongoing US investigations with the named individual remanded in custody. No likee facts or what?0
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I didn't see anything but the time I looked too. I wondered if it was one of the Pizzagate/Lizard/Jew/Illuminati/Priori of Sion/Alien/Thetan Soul type groups who added it only to have it swiftly removed...Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
If we look back at social norms in the 1940s we can be pretty sure big Phil did not bang Liz on that first meeting.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.1 -
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State controlled meejah doing what they're instructed. Get the nonce back in view under the protection of dead old bloke deference full on BS, start the normalisation process. Meejah manipulation of public interest 1.01. And Do Not Mention Ghislaine Maxwell.-1
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It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.0 -
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
Is that what the mean by a Royal groom?0 -
He made a heck of a job of it, seeing they were married for 73 years.pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
I think a little something called the internet shifted the goal posts as far as how an older teenager corresponding with a younger teen gets viewed nowadays."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1 -
The Vanuatu tribes mourning the death of the D of E.
Though Prince Philip was known for his frankness and has been criticised in the past for being culturally insensitive, on Tanna "he is seen as very supportive and sensitive,"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56713953"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1 -
Who knows how other grooming scenarios will play out if left to it? The goal posts have only changed regarding immediacy and ease. Principle is the same.blazing_saddles said:
He made a heck of a job of it, seeing they were married for 73 years.pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
I think a little something called the internet shifted the goal posts as far as how an older teenager corresponding with a younger teen gets viewed nowadays.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You realise that the accounts of Elizabeth's cousin and governess suggest it was her that took a shine to him?pblakeney said:
Who knows how other grooming scenarios will play out if left to it? The goal posts have only changed regarding immediacy and ease. Principle is the same.blazing_saddles said:
He made a heck of a job of it, seeing they were married for 73 years.pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
I think a little something called the internet shifted the goal posts as far as how an older teenager corresponding with a younger teen gets viewed nowadays.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
That is very close to victim blaming.rjsterry said:
You realise that the accounts of Elizabeth's cousin and governess suggest it was her that took a shine to him?pblakeney said:
Who knows how other grooming scenarios will play out if left to it? The goal posts have only changed regarding immediacy and ease. Principle is the same.blazing_saddles said:
He made a heck of a job of it, seeing they were married for 73 years.pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
I think a little something called the internet shifted the goal posts as far as how an older teenager corresponding with a younger teen gets viewed nowadays.
Maybe at that time, in her family, it was the cultural norm to be nonced by a cousin-1 -
That makes it alright then. 🤔rjsterry said:
You realise that the accounts of Elizabeth's cousin and governess suggest it was her that took a shine to him?pblakeney said:
Who knows how other grooming scenarios will play out if left to it? The goal posts have only changed regarding immediacy and ease. Principle is the same.blazing_saddles said:
He made a heck of a job of it, seeing they were married for 73 years.pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
I think a little something called the internet shifted the goal posts as far as how an older teenager corresponding with a younger teen gets viewed nowadays.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
We don't know do we. For obvious reasons people wrote letters more frequently then and it could - and I think we should assume that it was - a case of a younger teen simply corresponding with someone similar to a pen friend. Maybe it was exciting to hear first hand tales of the war.
Of course in royal circles at that time I would guess the pool of suitable partners was rather narrow so there may have been an element of an eye to the future - possibly even from adults encouraging her to keep in contact with someone they considered the right sort of man to marry into the royal family.
Either way it seems to have worked out well.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1 -
I don't think he was seen as suitable at the time. His family were relative paupers with no country to call home.0
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Yes you are right - didn't realise that.elbowloh said:I don't think he was seen as suitable at the time. His family were relative paupers with no country to call home.
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I think you are projecting a great deal on the very few facts, but let's leave it there.surrey_commuter said:
That is very close to victim blaming.rjsterry said:
You realise that the accounts of Elizabeth's cousin and governess suggest it was her that took a shine to him?pblakeney said:
Who knows how other grooming scenarios will play out if left to it? The goal posts have only changed regarding immediacy and ease. Principle is the same.blazing_saddles said:
He made a heck of a job of it, seeing they were married for 73 years.pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
I think a little something called the internet shifted the goal posts as far as how an older teenager corresponding with a younger teen gets viewed nowadays.
Maybe at that time, in her family, it was the cultural norm to be nonced by a cousin1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition2 -
rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.
Please don't let facts get in the way of any speculation and faux moralising.rjsterry said:
You realise that the accounts of Elizabeth's cousin and governess suggest it was her that took a shine to him?pblakeney said:
Who knows how other grooming scenarios will play out if left to it? The goal posts have only changed regarding immediacy and ease. Principle is the same.blazing_saddles said:
He made a heck of a job of it, seeing they were married for 73 years.pblakeney said:
That's called grooming today. But we all know that. Some might claim it is innocent.surrey_commuter said:
It was at Dartmouth and is widely reported that is where she first caught his eye and started corresponding with her.rjsterry said:
It was once at a wedding. They didn't meet again for another 5 years.DeVlaeminck said:
It's just that Phil met Liz when she was 13 - far as I know there's no suggestion they entered a relationship then - it was news to me too.Pross said:
Puzzled where you are getting that from, I'd never heard any rumours and can't find any online references. I know he was rumoured to have been involved in the Profumo affair and involved in some activities (officially not but possibly covered up) but as far as I'm aware there is no suggestion anyone involved in that was underage.surrey_commuter said:Fvck me I did not realise he was a paedo!!! did they have that section on there when he was alive?
Have to admit I was surprised to see Andrew being interviewed (and the BBC interviewing him). It felt like an error of judgement on all parts.
Now we just need to find a forumite with a 13 year old daughter and see how relaxed they would be about an 18 year old corresponding with her.
Not sure I'd take that stance as a father of a 13 year old.
I think a little something called the internet shifted the goal posts as far as how an older teenager corresponding with a younger teen gets viewed nowadays.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.4 -
