Things that have withstood the test of time

rjsterry

focuszing723 said:

focuszing723 said:

Human Nature isn't always contentious, doesn't history reflect that?

(CNN)The US government has spent the past week assessing a report of a leak at a Chinese nuclear power plant, after a French company that part owns and helps operate it warned of an "imminent radiological threat," according to US officials and documents reviewed by CNN.

The warning included an accusation that the Chinese safety authority was raising the acceptable limits for radiation detection outside the Taishan Nuclear Power Plant in Guangdong province in order to avoid having to shut it down, according to a letter from the French company to the US Department of Energy obtained by CNN.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/14/politics/china-nuclear-reactor-leak-us-monitoring/index.html

This is what concerns me about nuclear power akin to the situation with Covid19. Can you trust the people involved to be open and transparent?

Well paranoia about nuclear power has certainly stood the test of time.

focuszing723

Rolls-Royce has been backed by a consortium of private investors and the UK government to develop small nuclear reactors to generate cleaner energy.

The creation of the Rolls-Royce Small Modular Reactor (SMR) business was announced following a £195m cash injection from private firms and a £210m grant from the government.

It is hoped the new company could create up to 40,000 jobs by 2050.

However, critics say the focus should be on renewable power, not new nuclear.

Currently, about 21% of UK electricity generation comes from nuclear power.

Small modular reactors are nuclear fission reactors but are smaller than conventional ones.

The investment by Rolls-Royce Group, BNF Resources, Exelon Generation and the government will go towards developing Rolls-Royce's SMR design and take it through regulatory processes to assess whether it is suitable to be deployed in the UK.

It will also identify sites which will manufacture the reactors' parts and most of the venture's investment is expected to be focused in the north of the UK, where there is existing nuclear expertise.

Rolls-Royce's share price jumped by 4.2% to 147.85p each following the announcement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59212983

Well that news has given me a warm glow.

shirley_basso

focuszing723 said:

UK SMR (Small Modular Reactor) technology envisaged by the Rolls-Royce-led UK consortium can produce nuclear power in a new way anywhere in the world. It solves the conundrum of how to create affordable energy, and more of it, with a lower carbon footprint

The global energy sector is facing increasing pressure to produce more power more quickly and in more places with more certainty of availability cost, capacity and flexibility and lower input costs and a smaller environmental impact. Satisfying both has called for a new approach. Our UK SMR concept is the answer.

https://www.rolls-royce.com/products-and-services/nuclear/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-leading-the-consortium

There it is

focuszing723

I was surprised 21% of our electrifing juice was already produced by nuclear power.

DeVlaeminck

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon

The future - what could possibly go wrong?

focuszing723

Wowsers, and I thought the jet car and motorbike were the height of swagger.

focuszing723

Ahhh yes!

pblakeney

DeVlaeminck said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon

The future - what could possibly go wrong?

Really? I thought it was this...
Powered by waste.

focuszing723

China is planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35.

Nuclear power once seemed like the world’s best hope for a carbon-neutral future. After decades of cost-overruns, public protests and disasters elsewhere, China has emerged as the world’s last great believer, with plans to generate an eye-popping amount of nuclear energy, quickly and at relatively low cost.

China has over the course of the year revealed the extensive scope of its plans for nuclear, an ambition with new resonance given the global energy crisis and the calls for action coming out of the COP26 Climate Summit in Glasgow. The world’s biggest emitter, China’s planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35. The effort could cost as much as $440 billion; as early as the middle of this decade, the country will surpass the U.S. as the world’s largest generator of nuclear power.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-11-02/china-climate-goals-hinge-on-440-billion-nuclear-power-plan-to-rival-u-s

focuszing723

A HUNDRED AND FIFTY.

Great Scott!

focuszing723

focuszing723 said:

China is planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35.

Nuclear power once seemed like the world’s best hope for a carbon-neutral future. After decades of cost-overruns, public protests and disasters elsewhere, China has emerged as the world’s last great believer, with plans to generate an eye-popping amount of nuclear energy, quickly and at relatively low cost.

China has over the course of the year revealed the extensive scope of its plans for nuclear, an ambition with new resonance given the global energy crisis and the calls for action coming out of the COP26 Climate Summit in Glasgow. The world’s biggest emitter, China’s planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35. The effort could cost as much as $440 billion; as early as the middle of this decade, the country will surpass the U.S. as the world’s largest generator of nuclear power.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-11-02/china-climate-goals-hinge-on-440-billion-nuclear-power-plan-to-rival-u-s

150!

Ben6899

They're obviously charging more for those boxes of LFTs than I realised!

surrey_commuter

focuszing723 said:

focuszing723 said:

China is planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35.

Nuclear power once seemed like the world’s best hope for a carbon-neutral future. After decades of cost-overruns, public protests and disasters elsewhere, China has emerged as the world’s last great believer, with plans to generate an eye-popping amount of nuclear energy, quickly and at relatively low cost.

China has over the course of the year revealed the extensive scope of its plans for nuclear, an ambition with new resonance given the global energy crisis and the calls for action coming out of the COP26 Climate Summit in Glasgow. The world’s biggest emitter, China’s planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35. The effort could cost as much as $440 billion; as early as the middle of this decade, the country will surpass the U.S. as the world’s largest generator of nuclear power.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-11-02/china-climate-goals-hinge-on-440-billion-nuclear-power-plan-to-rival-u-s

150!

I find it hard to get my head around the size of China. There are cities of several million people that most people have never heard of. They build 8 new airports every year.

Whilst Rome was not built in a day it is estimated that the Chineses construction industry could build it in a week

focuszing723

surrey_commuter said:

focuszing723 said:

focuszing723 said:

China is planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35.

Nuclear power once seemed like the world’s best hope for a carbon-neutral future. After decades of cost-overruns, public protests and disasters elsewhere, China has emerged as the world’s last great believer, with plans to generate an eye-popping amount of nuclear energy, quickly and at relatively low cost.

China has over the course of the year revealed the extensive scope of its plans for nuclear, an ambition with new resonance given the global energy crisis and the calls for action coming out of the COP26 Climate Summit in Glasgow. The world’s biggest emitter, China’s planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35. The effort could cost as much as $440 billion; as early as the middle of this decade, the country will surpass the U.S. as the world’s largest generator of nuclear power.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-11-02/china-climate-goals-hinge-on-440-billion-nuclear-power-plan-to-rival-u-s

150!

I find it hard to get my head around the size of China. There are cities of several million people that most people have never heard of. They build 8 new airports every year.

Whilst Rome was not built in a day it is estimated that the Chineses construction industry could build it in a week

I bet they could afford to chill on Sunday, too!

I still can't get my head around a 150 in 15 years.

I'm still concerned about potential problems with future Human complacency with nuclear power, but it seems the in thing now, especially with the World uptake on EV's.

On a side note, there have been 2,121 nuclear bomb tests above/below ground since 1945.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests

davidof

Sussana Hoffs

Same green dress as 40 years ago

focuszing723

Still hot.

masjer

Laurel and Hardy.

ddraver

Still 1000% the best cameo in an otherwise horrifically awful film...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE

Scotty still doesnt know

masjer

Wind turbines. Invented in 1888 Charles Brush (thanks Google). I bet his family wish they owned the patent now.

wallace_and_gromit

bompington said:

I have a DJ that, tbf, I don't wear very often - but it is still in good condition and looks way better than most newish ones. I bought it from a vintage shop in the 80s, and it dates back to the 40s. Funny to think that more time has elapsed since I bought it than from its origin to that date.

My DJ is my Dad's original from 1953. It's double breasted (apparently - I don't know what that means tbh) and has been in and out of fashion many times. It is a timeless classic though and played a central role in the wooing of the then unsuspecting future Mrs W&G back in the late 1980s.

masjer

Jellyfish. They’ve been around for 500+ million years. One species is thought to be immortal. Box jellyfish are the world’s most venomous animal. And 60,000 jellyfish have been to space.
Not everyone thinks they are an impressive survivor.
Karl Pilkington — 'Jellyfish are 97% water or something, so how much are they doing? Just give them another 3% and make them water. It's more useful.'

DeVlaeminck

wallace_and_gromit said:

bompington said:

I have a DJ that, tbf, I don't wear very often - but it is still in good condition and looks way better than most newish ones. I bought it from a vintage shop in the 80s, and it dates back to the 40s. Funny to think that more time has elapsed since I bought it than from its origin to that date.

My DJ is my Dad's original from 1953. It's double breasted (apparently - I don't know what that means tbh) and has been in and out of fashion many times. It is a timeless classic though and played a central role in the wooing of the then unsuspecting future Mrs W&G back in the late 1980s.

It just means the front of the suit crosses over /overlaps so instead of one vertical row of buttons centrally you've (usually) got two rows - one offset to each side - one row being ornamental.

ddraver

aka - What the haunted pencil Jacob Rees Mog wears all the time for reasons quite frankly inexplicable...

masjer

My 2007 Acer laptop. I’ve replaced two screens, a lid, two cooling fans, two power packs, one power jack and some other internal surgeries, but it lives on. The battery only lasts about 1 minute now, so it lives its life tethered to a lead and hasn’t been out in years.
It started life as a Windows Vista model, but struggled with its mighty processor. It then became a Linux Ubuntu, then a Linux Mint and is now living out its retirement as a Chromebook.

webboo

ddraver said:

aka - What the haunted pencil Jacob Rees Mog wears all the time for reasons quite frankly inexplicable...

As Prince Charles also wears a double breasted jacket, maybe Reesnob would like to mistaken for one of the Royals.

Ben6899

ddraver said:

aka - What the haunted pencil Jacob Rees Mog wears all the time for reasons quite frankly inexplicable...

Rees Mogg is slim enough to pull off a double-breasted jacket. I think that's the only compliment I will ever pay him!

Ben6899

webboo said:

ddraver said:

aka - What the haunted pencil Jacob Rees Mog wears all the time for reasons quite frankly inexplicable...

As Prince Charles also wears a double breasted jacket, maybe Reesnob would like to mistaken for one of the Royals.

And Prince Charles isn't.

wallace_and_gromit

masjer said:

My 2007 Acer laptop. I’ve replaced two screens, a lid, two cooling fans, two power packs, one power jack and some other internal surgeries, but it lives on. The battery only lasts about 1 minute now, so it lives its life tethered to a lead and hasn’t been out in years.
It started life as a Windows Vista model, but struggled with its mighty processor. It then became a Linux Ubuntu, then a Linux Mint and is now living out it’s retirement as a Chromebook.

So a bit like Trigger's broom then.

masjer

wallace_and_gromit said:

masjer said:

My 2007 Acer laptop. I’ve replaced two screens, a lid, two cooling fans, two power packs, one power jack and some other internal surgeries, but it lives on. The battery only lasts about 1 minute now, so it lives its life tethered to a lead and hasn’t been out in years.
It started life as a Windows Vista model, but struggled with its mighty processor. It then became a Linux Ubuntu, then a Linux Mint and is now living out it’s retirement as a Chromebook.

So a bit like Trigger's broom then.

Or Frankenstein's monster.

Pross

Ben6899 said:

ddraver said:

aka - What the haunted pencil Jacob Rees Mog wears all the time for reasons quite frankly inexplicable...

Rees Mogg is slim enough to pull off a double-breasted jacket. I think that's the only compliment I will ever pay him!

But insists on wearing one tailored for a much larger man.