Monday; be like Johnnie too-good, don't you know he never shirks

seanoconn

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

Where the flip is he going at 1am?

hopkinb

Ben6899 said:

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

I've obviously missed a few posts, but are you having trouble with the lad?

Yep. Failing his GCSEs. Not doing any work towards them. Caught with weed. We also accessed all his social media and email yesterday night, and he's been sneaking out from here and his dad's house, and ubering round sw london to meet his gf - not even bright enough to delete the receipts. Not bright enough to realise that all the doors are closed to him if he doesn't get a bare minimum of 5 GCSEs. They are "numbers on a piece of paper" apparently, and we shouldn't judge him. I tipped him off his chair earlier - he'd nodded off at 9.30 in front of his lesson.

johngti

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

Wish I could offer some advice here as a resident secondary school teacher! Best lesson I ever learned was that when I frame things as choices that they've made that are less than positive, there are always consequences. I've tried to reduce the amount of shouting I do following that. Mostly manage but there's times where a good shout does me good. However, having recently found out that shouting at a teenage boy triggers exactly the same pain response in the brain as hitting them, I've decided that riding my bike needs to be my outlet more.

orraloon

seanoconn said:

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

Where the flip is he going at 1am?

Prob got a call from some CourierBloke in a Tesla.

Ben6899

hopkinb said:

Ben6899 said:

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

I've obviously missed a few posts, but are you having trouble with the lad?

Yep. Failing his GCSEs...

Wow. Sorry to read this lot, Hop'. I have no advice as I don't have kids, but I like John's idea of presenting the consequences of choices. Saying that, it seems you've tried to explain why five GCSEs are important to have...

hopkinb

johngti said:

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

Wish I could offer some advice here as a resident secondary school teacher! Best lesson I ever learned was that when I frame things as choices that they've made that are less than positive, there are always consequences. I've tried to reduce the amount of shouting I do following that. Mostly manage but there's times where a good shout does me good. However, having recently found out that shouting at a teenage boy triggers exactly the same pain response in the brain as hitting them, I've decided that riding my bike needs to be my outlet more.

I hear you john. I'm not a shouter, but my wife is. He's reached the end of everyone's tether, both parents, both step parents. Playing like he's some kind of wronged hero fighting the fight against the man, instead of a spoiled middle class tit in the middle of a full blown soup of adolescent hormones.

johngti

hopkinb said:

johngti said:

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

Wish I could offer some advice here as a resident secondary school teacher! Best lesson I ever learned was that when I frame things as choices that they've made that are less than positive, there are always consequences. I've tried to reduce the amount of shouting I do following that. Mostly manage but there's times where a good shout does me good. However, having recently found out that shouting at a teenage boy triggers exactly the same pain response in the brain as hitting them, I've decided that riding my bike needs to be my outlet more.

I hear you john. I'm not a shouter, but my wife is. He's reached the end of everyone's tether, both parents, both step parents. Playing like he's some kind of wronged hero fighting the fight against the man, instead of a spoiled middle class censored in the middle of a full blown soup of adolescent hormones.

Feel that! My youngest daughter went through something similar. She lived with her mum and so I'd get phonecalls from them both, but mostly my ex. She was a properly screwed up kid for a while; still is to some extent even now that she's 23. A distance developed between us that her mum encouraged. So basically, keep the faith.

Stevo_666

hopkinb said:

Some top end bellowing going on. I put up one of those Ring security cameras in the back garden yesterday. Can you guess who was caught on camera at 1 a.m. having climbed out of his window? Not that the camera was required yesterday, what with the snow leaving ample evidence.

Got a spare dog crate for him to sleep in?

haydenm

If it helps, I was a right tw4t to my parents as a teenager but I was a little older by the sounds of it, I'd done ok at GCSE and flipped when I was doing A levels. I think I was frustrated at being pushed towards uni by my 6th form and there was no mention of any other options which might have suited me better. Scraped through with very little effort which I am now extremely thankful for, after a year of labouring and riding mountain bikes in Canada I decided to go to uni after all and they let me in with a grade lower than required because I was enthusiastic.

He'll still have options once he comes to his senses, it'll just be harder or easier depending on where he has currently given up. iirc there are good grants for adult study now

pinno

Stevo_666 said:

Watch out, he'll be round on his mobility scooter and whack you with his walking stick.
.

It ain't that big.

Hayden bought dour, funereal scaffolding
there are alternatives not explored by him
Like Italian - soul, colour, bling

pinno

Counting, shifting, moving, massaging numbers
It consumed, obsessed, deluded and deranged him
[The funeral is paid for]

ballysmate

God knows how to get through to a teenager who is more susceptible to peer pressure than a parent/step parent.
If shouting or reasoning don't work try guilt or shaming.
Even use the fact that your daughter would have loved the chance to do her GCSEs and have his opportunities to waste.
When getting kids back on the straight and narrow, no blow is too low.

haydenm

pinno said:

Stevo_666 said:

Watch out, he'll be round on his mobility scooter and whack you with his walking stick.
.

It ain't that big.

Hayden bought dour, funereal scaffolding
there are alternatives not explored by him
Like Italian - soul, colour, bling

I'll have you know the website tells me it was hand made in Italy

Two of my nice bikes are black, the other two are the incorrect colour.

MattFalle

Hmmm, this be tricky as its not our boy and everyone has a different parenting style, everyone's kids are different - even what works with bambina won't work with bambino and vice versa.

Sometimes the screaming/shouting doesn't work - you may find it beneficial to sit him down and explain that yup, he wants to be treated as an adult so you'll talk to him like one, charge him rent like one, expect him to do adult chores, etc.

You know, adult schitt.

It may also be worth pointing out that yup, they are just numbers on a piece of paper but without those numbers he won't earn the money to get his own beautiful casa h3 and trust me, scraping through each month or living on an estate is pretty schitt.

And yup, without the right numbers on that piece of paper he can't even join the Army, so welcome to the McJob industry.

pinno

Whilst we drink alcohol, wine and beer
we lecture those experimenting with 'illicit' gear
the plight of middle class England, dear

MattFalle

MattFalle said:

Cold and snowy.

Job application receipt received, just told boss that I've applied for promotion course over eastern europe thing but if i can get on both then its a winner.

now to drink coffee before trying to explain Scope of Practice to people who don't want to understand it.

well, as much as expected, that was a total waste of time.

now eating pies as I can't be bothered any more.

signed off, switched off....

pinno

I suppose quoting oneselves keeps a tab on everybody.

#makessense

elbowloh

MattFalle said:

MattFalle said:

Cold and snowy.

Job application receipt received, just told boss that I've applied for promotion course over eastern europe thing but if i can get on both then its a winner.

now to drink coffee before trying to explain Scope of Practice to people who don't want to understand it.

well, as much as expected, that was a total waste of time.

now eating pies as I can't be bothered any more.

signed off, switched off....

This is like the start of an action movie, you'll now gonna go an open up a can of whoopass and at some point say "i'm getting too old for this sh1t".

pinno

MattFalle said:

Hmmm, this be tricky as its not our boy and everyone has a different parenting style, everyone's kids are different - even what works with bambina won't work with bambino and vice versa.

Sometimes the screaming/shouting doesn't work - you may find it beneficial to sit him down and explain that yup, he wants to be treated as an adult so you'll talk to him like one, charge him rent like one, expect him to do adult chores, etc.

You know, adult schitt.

It may also be worth pointing out that yup, they are just numbers on a piece of paper but without those numbers he won't earn the money to get his own beautiful casa h3 and trust me, scraping through each month or living on an estate is pretty schitt.

And yup, without the right numbers on that piece of paper he can't even join the Army, so welcome to the McJob industry.

Yeah, but what about my Haiku's?

ballysmate

pinno said:

Whilst we drink alcohol, wine and beer
we lecture those experimenting with 'illicit' gear
the plight of middle class England, dear

Maybe so.
But this lad (15?) is sneaking out at 1am and seems to be helping himself to money around the house.
Bit more serious than having a crafty cider and a sneaky Benson.

Ben6899

pinno said:

Yeah, but what about my Haiku's?

Too many syllables.

elbowloh

Hoppy, i'm only starting in this parenting journey, so have no experience of teenagers, but do you know what he does want to do with his life, any dream jobs he would like?

Maybe help him find out the paths to get to those dreams and how GCSEs are a step on the way?

pinno

Ben6899 said:

pinno said:

Yeah, but what about my Haiku's?

Too many syllables.

Oh bollox, I was just using 7,5,7.

sungod

pinno said:

Ben6899 said:

pinno said:

Yeah, but what about my Haiku's?

Too many syllables.

Oh bollox, I was just using 7,5,7.

5-7-5 is the usual

though in japanese the counting is not the same as our simple way with syllables

orraloon

Shaggy locks all gone
Robert Plant need not worry
His look is his own

There's a first for me. Enough prevarication, JFDI. So JFDI it is. #jobjobbed


Added: good news that #1 Daughter's test result back (inside 18h) as negative, which I had expected but was concerned as a positive would have meant me going into the naughty room as a contact. Pixx right off C19.

MattFalle

pinno said:

MattFalle said:

Hmmm, this be tricky as its not our boy and everyone has a different parenting style, everyone's kids are different - even what works with bambina won't work with bambino and vice versa.

Sometimes the screaming/shouting doesn't work - you may find it beneficial to sit him down and explain that yup, he wants to be treated as an adult so you'll talk to him like one, charge him rent like one, expect him to do adult chores, etc.

You know, adult schitt.

It may also be worth pointing out that yup, they are just numbers on a piece of paper but without those numbers he won't earn the money to get his own beautiful casa h3 and trust me, scraping through each month or living on an estate is pretty schitt.

And yup, without the right numbers on that piece of paper he can't even join the Army, so welcome to the McJob industry.

Yeah, but what about my Haiku's?

Wire brush and paraffin, that'll sort them. Trust me.

#healthcareprofessional

MattFalle

orraloon said:

Shaggy locks all gone
Robert Plant need not worry
His look is his own

There's a first for me. Enough prevarication, JFDI. So JFDI it is. #jobjobbed


Added: good news that #1 Daughter's test result back (inside 18h) as negative, which I had expected but was concerned as a positive would have meant me going into the naughty room as a contact. Pixx right off C19.

get in on all counts, espesh the latter.

IN YOUR FACE COVID

seanoconn

sungod said:

pinno said:

Ben6899 said:

pinno said:

Yeah, but what about my Haiku's?

Too many syllables.

Oh bollox, I was just using 7,5,7.

5-7-5 is the usual

though in japanese the counting is not the same as our simple way with syllables

You’re holding up the movie thread!

sungod

no one got it yet, i gave a clue

seanoconn

sungod said:

no one got it yet, i gave a clue

Sorry sungod. The dummies like to be told they haven’t got it