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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Incredible finish for the second weekend running.
    Well done Scotland and thank you very much!
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,264
    What a tournament!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,264
    France with the ambition to try to score 18 points after the clock's gone red.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,651
    Another excellent game. Missed most of the first half and watched on my phone with the sound off. What was the thinking on the red card? Did they say contact to the head as it looked like chest / shoulder to me or is leading with your arm a straight red offence these days no matter where it lands? Pretty much a role reversal of last week!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,651
    It wasn't very Scots like to not kick the ball away or pass it into touch on that final move.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,264
    Pross said:

    Another excellent game. Missed most of the first half and watched on my phone with the sound off. What was the thinking on the red card? Did they say contact to the head as it looked like chest / shoulder to me or is leading with your arm a straight red offence these days no matter where it lands? Pretty much a role reversal of last week!

    Forearm to the throat. Red card. Elbow was on the shoulder, but fair call, I think.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,562
    Pross said:

    Another excellent game. Missed most of the first half and watched on my phone with the sound off. What was the thinking on the red card? Did they say contact to the head as it looked like chest / shoulder to me or is leading with your arm a straight red offence these days no matter where it lands? Pretty much a role reversal of last week!

    Neck area. Counts as the head.

    Why did Scotland kick in the last 2 minutes?
    Why didn't France kick after time?

    To entertain us! 🤣🤣🤣
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    kingstongraham said:

    France with the ambition to try to score 18 points after the clock's gone red.

    Same logic as Macron on vaccines.

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,651
    kingstongraham said:

    Pross said:

    Another excellent game. Missed most of the first half and watched on my phone with the sound off. What was the thinking on the red card? Did they say contact to the head as it looked like chest / shoulder to me or is leading with your arm a straight red offence these days no matter where it lands? Pretty much a role reversal of last week!

    Forearm to the throat. Red card. Elbow was on the shoulder, but fair call, I think.
    Fair enough. I was only on the phone screen but couldn't see contact any higher up. Russell seemed to accept it though so think he knew he'd messed up. What sparked the fisticuffs and the end of the first half?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,735
    Head = Neck

    Why not punch a French/Scotsman when he's on front of you? (Nothing much)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • vincesummerskRoxcBTr
    vincesummerskRoxcBTr Posts: 1,264
    Great finale to the 6 Nations, great championship this year!!
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,619
    Dulin not kicking the ball out was right up there with the dumbest decisions ever made on a rugby pitch.
    Well done Wales, swapped positions with England!
  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Dulin not kicking the ball out was right up there with the dumbest decisions ever made on a rugby pitch.
    Well done Wales, swapped positions with England!

    Even after a good night's sleep I'm still dewildered by that move...
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,651
    Charlie_Croker said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Dulin not kicking the ball out was right up there with the dumbest decisions ever made on a rugby pitch.
    Well done Wales, swapped positions with England!

    Even after a good night's sleep I'm still dewildered by that move...
    It was the sort of thing the Scots usually do!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Nonsense you lot.
    If we are talking dumb French rugby players, this has to be the bench mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6CQz_gCzJw
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,735
    I dunno BS, you can at least see what the 15 was thinking might happen there

    (Do you know, I've seen that clip so many times but I never realised how late in the game it was, or, from the stadium, what a big game it must have been)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,562
    Pross said:

    Charlie_Croker said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Dulin not kicking the ball out was right up there with the dumbest decisions ever made on a rugby pitch.
    Well done Wales, swapped positions with England!

    Even after a good night's sleep I'm still dewildered by that move...
    It was the sort of thing the Scots usually do!
    Don't forget that they did their trademark kick away in the last 2 minutes.
    The French contrived to be even more silly. 🤣🤣🤣
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    Charlie_Croker said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Dulin not kicking the ball out was right up there with the dumbest decisions ever made on a rugby pitch.
    Well done Wales, swapped positions with England!

    Even after a good night's sleep I'm still dewildered by that move...
    It was the sort of thing the Scots usually do!
    Don't forget that they did their trademark kick away in the last 2 minutes.
    The French contrived to be even more silly. 🤣🤣🤣
    We can’t talk.
    Gareth Davies kicked the ball away in the last few seconds of the Irish match and but for Burns missing the corner off the ensuing penalty....
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,735
    Neither can the English, they kick it away every 3 phases...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,619
    ddraver said:

    I dunno BS, you can at least see what the 15 was thinking might happen there

    (Do you know, I've seen that clip so many times but I never realised how late in the game it was, or, from the stadium, what a big game it must have been)

    Heinekin Cup Final - I think it was Wasps' first win.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,651
    Dorset_Boy said:

    ddraver said:

    I dunno BS, you can at least see what the 15 was thinking might happen there

    (Do you know, I've seen that clip so many times but I never realised how late in the game it was, or, from the stadium, what a big game it must have been)

    Heinekin Cup Final - I think it was Wasps' first win.
    I was watching it in a bar after a 5 aside competition. There was a lot of laughter.

    Dominici dropping the ball over the try line with no pressure was hilarious too.
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,582
    edited March 2021


    "I was watching it in a bar after a 5 aside competition. There was a lot of laughter.

    Dominici dropping the ball over the try line with no pressure was hilarious too".

    I can forgive Dominici just about anything as he was in that French 1999 WC squad that beat NZ in that epic semi final . . . difficult to think of a more bewitching performance by any rugby team ever . . . or a more "French" performance for that matter
    Wilier Izoard XP
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,651
    edited April 2021
    Watching the England v France women's match. The physicality is high but the actual basic rugby skills have been terrible from both sides (dropping fairly easy high balls, knocking on from decent passes, kicking straight to touch, a player making a decent break but running cross field and taking away all the space). Really poor considering these are two of the best teams in the world.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Pross said:

    Watching the England v France women's match. The physicality is high but the actual basic rugby skills have been terrible from both sides (dropping fairly easy high balls, knocking on from decent passes, kicking straight to touch, a player making a decent break but running cross field and taking away all the space). Really poor considering these are two of the best teams in the world.

    Try watching the Welsh women, it's embarrassing.
    Although they did manage to score some points today, after conceding a century to France and Ireland without a single return score.
    There is only so far you can go with diversity and I am afraid Rugby Union is a bridge too far. It becomes different game played under the same rules.
    Doesn't stop the BBC from dedicating the top six stories to their 6 Nations mind.

    Meanwhile, I am afraid the our George may well be out of Lion's contention after suffering what could well be a serious, long term injury, playing in what is a tv fulfilling, joke competition.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,651
    Watching a Pro14 match at the moment. WTF is this captain's challenge nonsense? The TMO is constantly checking for foul play I thought so it seems pointless.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,619
    Experimental rulz for that competition. I wonder how many will be adopted worldwide......
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    edited June 2021
    Experimental rulz pinched from Rugby League.
    The Dragons used it successfully last week, to point out a missed knock on, as a Glasgow player was going to ground, from which they went on to score.

    More rules: just what we need.


    Not related, but that was quite a dust up at the end of the Leicester vs Bristol game, yesterday.

    Now, I am no expert on the scrum, but to me, Leicester were incorrectly given two penalties for scrum collapse, then a yellow card which caused much controversy.
    The first: I think "Flats" pointed it out on commentary, that no way the prop was scrumming straight, as they all ended up folding over the top of their own scrum.
    The second, Genge could be seen binding on his opponents shirt, not his arm. No surprises that the scrum went to ground.
    That one got the yellow card.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,619
    I can't comment on the rights or wrongs of the penalties and yellow card, but Pat Lam was highly 'disingenious' regarding the fitness or otherwise of Afoa - subbed tactically (Lam tells his pitchside manager what should be recorded), then oddly injured when Lam things they'll go uncontested, but miraculously fit again when Lam is told they'd have to lose an extra man and go down to 13. Borthwick was spot on calling Lam a liar.

    Then was the ball out or not when Uren pinched it from between the tigers 6 & 8?
    Not a good sight to see the likes of Nathan Hughes getting involved in the scrap from the subs bench.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,841
    Sinckler in to the Lions squad now as an injury replacement.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,619
    He was very unlucky to have missed the original selection.

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