Giro 2020 - Stage 18: Pinzolo – Laghi di Cancano 207 km *Spoilers*

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    kingstongraham said:

    mididoctors said:

    Pross said:

    Can't recall a three way split this close going into the last few days of a GT. I think Tao needs to gain time on Sestriere as I think he'll lose a bit in the TT.

    Chances of being in a gt winning position like this again .
    Goes for Kelderman the most out of the three.
    You raise a valid point
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    Results from stage 14 over 34km

    Joao Almeida 0
    Wilco Kelderman 00:00:16
    Tao Geoghegan Hart 00:00:53
    Pello Bilbao 00:01:22
    Jai Hindley 00:02:08

  • Matti66
    Matti66 Posts: 190
    edited October 2020
    TGH can test better than that , and was disappointed in his prologue. Any way Saturday to come and all in play -But Kelderman still in the box seat?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Matti66 said:

    TGH can test better than that , and was disappointed in his prologue. Any way Saturday to come and all in play -But Kelderman still in the box seat?

    Depends how deep he went today I think
  • davieb78
    davieb78 Posts: 99
    edited October 2020
    Shame Tao lost so much time (relatively) on Etna, although I suppose without that things might have panned out differently from now.
  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    Game on!
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    davieb78 said:

    Shame Tao lost so much time (relatively) on Etna, although I suppose without that things might have panned out differently from now.

    He's definitely ridden into the race hasn't he. Given his stage 1 TT and Etna performances, he's come good more recently.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Rohann Dennis was pretty awesome ... Didn't think.he had it too take it up from the break like that .
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    bobmcstuff said:

    davieb78 said:

    Shame Tao lost so much time (relatively) on Etna, although I suppose without that things might have panned out differently from now.

    He's definitely ridden into the race hasn't he. Given his stage 1 TT and Etna performances, he's come good more recently.
    I think Tao is on an upward trajectory whereas Wilcoman possibly peaked earlier in the race and is dropping away slightly
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Ineos have some firepower to throw at all three climbs of Sestriere. Sunweb know they can't bank on Hindley to beat TGH in the TT so they've got decisions to make. For Ineos it's simple.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Tao is excellent because he over achieves ... True all rounder maximising his potential. He is not head and shoulders better at anything except doing everything he can
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    RichN95. said:

    Ineos have some firepower to throw at all three climbs of Sestriere. Sunweb know they can't bank on Hindley to beat TGH in the TT so they've got decisions to make. For Ineos it's simple.

    Hindley follows tao and Muggs him again except attacking from further out . Wilco hangs on as best he can hoping to remain with in striking distance in the TT. Dropping hindley back to tow wilco is unlikely to make wilco go that much faster ... Zero valley floor more or less
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Throw a blanket over the top 3 with 2 stages left. Can't really ask for more. Fantastic stage today. Proper racing.
  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    mididoctors said:

    RichN95. said:

    Ineos have some firepower to throw at all three climbs of Sestriere. Sunweb know they can't bank on Hindley to beat TGH in the TT so they've got decisions to make. For Ineos it's simple.

    Hindley follows tao and Muggs him again except attacking from further out . Wilco hangs on as best he can hoping to remain with in striking distance in the TT. Dropping hindley back to tow wilco is unlikely to make wilco go that much faster ... Zero valley floor more or less
    That wouldn't be the worst outcome, if Tao could limit his loss to Hindley to less than 10 seconds, plus bonuses. Guess he'd be pretty happy 15 seconds behind Hindley and 30 seconds ahead of Kelderman going into the TT.

    All to play for.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    bobmcstuff said:

    Pross said:

    50x11 said:

    What a losers win that is. Hopefully feels so hollow.

    What?
    Haha yeah what else was he meant to do, work with Tao to distance his own teammate??
    It's like people are watching a bike race for the first time.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    edited October 2020
    Pross said:

    bobmcstuff said:

    Pross said:

    50x11 said:

    What a losers win that is. Hopefully feels so hollow.

    What?
    Haha yeah what else was he meant to do, work with Tao to distance his own teammate??
    It's like people are watching a bike race for the first time.
    In fairness, they may not be experienced race watchers. We all knew nothing at one point. Some of us still don't know as much as we think we do!
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    salsiccia1 said:

    Pross said:

    bobmcstuff said:

    Pross said:

    50x11 said:

    What a losers win that is. Hopefully feels so hollow.

    What?
    Haha yeah what else was he meant to do, work with Tao to distance his own teammate??
    It's like people are watching a bike race for the first time.
    In fairness, they may not be experienced race watchers. We all knew nothing at one point. Some of us still don't know as much as we think we do!
    I still know nothing but it was still obvious that Hindley wasn't going to contribute in putting distance into his team mate who was virtual race leader or simply let TGH take the stage and the additional bonus seconds.
  • yourpaceormine
    yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    And as Eurosport coverage swapped over to la Vuelta, Carlton didn't disappoint..."blah blah blah, boring sprint stage, blah blah blah, thank you for joining us, where've you been?"

    I for one was watching a very exciting stage of the Giro actually Carlton, one of the most exciting grand tour stages I can remember (not just because of what happened today, but also what it promises for the weekend). Glad the Giro is a sprint stage tomorrow, I need a rest.

    So want Tao to take overall, would be nice for a supposed domestique to take the overall after Ineos's three prong attack on the Grand Tours looks to have failed
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Any news on that motorbike man? He looked in a bad way
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Assuming Hindley's TT is significantly weaker than the other two, TGH needs to put 30 seconds into Keldermercx on Sestriere to make things interesting.
    How Ineos do that, I know not.
    Bloody French. :p
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Don't understand the Sunweb tactics there unless Jai Hindley went rogue.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490
    DeVlaeminck said:

    Don't understand the Sunweb tactics there unless Jai Hindley went rogue.

    Protecting his podium position while not helping Ineos in any way while Kelderman was in virtual Pink. Seemed the obvious move to me.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    pblakeney said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    Don't understand the Sunweb tactics there unless Jai Hindley went rogue.

    Protecting his podium position while not helping Ineos in any way while Kelderman was in virtual Pink. Seemed the obvious move to me.
    Exactly - they've got 1 and 2 on the GC with 3 days to go. If Kelderman had cracked completely, they'd still have 1st.
  • yourpaceormine
    yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    RichN95. said:

    Any news on that motorbike man? He looked in a bad way

    Haven't seen any updates but apparently his bike fell over trapping him underneath (he appears to have gone for the steepest line through the corner
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    pblakeney said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    Don't understand the Sunweb tactics there unless Jai Hindley went rogue.

    Protecting his podium position while not helping Ineos in any way while Kelderman was in virtual Pink. Seemed the obvious move to me.
    Yep, it was a perfect hedge bet really. I suspect Kelderman also knew he was in a bit of trouble.
  • Matti66
    Matti66 Posts: 190
    Kelderman slightly critising Hindley in Eisels interview for not waiting on the Stelvio Decent , But all good he recons . Which it is really .
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    Don't understand the Sunweb tactics there unless Jai Hindley went rogue.

    Protecting his podium position while not helping Ineos in any way while Kelderman was in virtual Pink. Seemed the obvious move to me.
    Yep, it was a perfect hedge bet really. I suspect Kelderman also knew he was in a bit of trouble.

    Although....

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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Surprised to hear Kelderman say that, TBH
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    When Fuglsang and Bilbao came up to him, Kelderman couldn't hold their wheel for one pedal stroke. So I wouldn't be optimistic that Hindley could have coaxed much more from him.
    Plus, TGH would have been free to ride flat out for the whole climb, which he couldn't with Hindley attached to this rear wheel.

    No brainer to me.
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    BTW Ben Swift up to 19th overall
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.

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