TDF 2020 - Stage 12: Chauvigny - Sarran Corrèze 218 km *Spoilers*

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    Jeremy's Cousin getting some go-slow spray on his thigh from the doctor's car.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,091
    There was a bit of a crosswind earlier. Not stoking the echelon discussion here, but are riders trying to use the more exposed sections to get away? Seems it shuts down again on the sheltered sections - it's just knocked off again as they pass some woodland.
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  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,435
    Would love for that break to stay away, 66/1 bet on Lulu this morning... this is definitely his kind of stage.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    twotoebenny said:

    Would love for that break to stay away, 66/1 bet on Lulu this morning... this is definitely his kind of stage.

    I'm just keeping an eye on it for my PTP...
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    First 20k at 55kmh
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    This is great - Sagan still trying
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    Asgreen on a potato hunt with a TDE rider
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    So too small a break to make it really.

    Which means one of the puncheurs for the stage win, Sagan or GVA possibly?

    Bora controlling for no real reason. Just trying to stop anyone else clipping off to keep some points available at the intermediate?
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    I guess Asgreen was sent out to mop up sprint points
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    Bennett & Mørkøv take the last points, Sagan 3rd and empty handed
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Bennet extends his lead marginally at the intermediate - outsprinted Sagan quite comfortably with Morkov in between.

    So confusing with someone not Sagan in green!
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    It's all about the stage for Sagan I think
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    What do Bora do now? I expect a few more to try and bridge, Bora still on front, must be looking for the stage
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    inseine said:

    It's all about the stage for Sagan I think

    He was clearly going for it I would say. Given the work Bora did to control the break etc.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    Asgreen continuing with the TDE guy (has he taken a turn?)
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,860
    I worry a little about gambling and cycling. In a sport where the riders fix the winner on the road at times ? As a given part of the sport . Just putting that our there betting seems to be a growing part of this sport .
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    What do Bora do now? I expect a few more to try and bridge, Bora still on front, must be looking for the stage

    Presumably attacks may come when the road begins to go up.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,860
    Bora on a high road to no where . I don't think Sagan has it to win today . Shame about the green jersey comp . Hope to be wrong . Bit of a Sagan fan
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,860
    If Bora control it the GC teams have to take an interest cos of the time bonus .. could blow themselves out ?
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,860
    Let's see if Bora attack this climb
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,692
    mididoctors said:

    I worry a little about gambling and cycling. In a sport where the riders fix the winner on the road at times ? As a given part of the sport . Just putting that our there betting seems to be a growing part of this sport .

    Mug's game - also the market is so thin big bets shift odds quite quickly.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,860
    rick_chasey said:

    mididoctors said:

    I worry a little about gambling and cycling. In a sport where the riders fix the winner on the road at times ? As a given part of the sport . Just putting that our there betting seems to be a growing part of this sport .

    Mug's game - also the market is so thin big bets shift odds quite quickly.
    I hope that's the case .
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    It's a good for in play though - backing and laying riders as the dynamic shifts on the road (not that I do it).

    There's a good account to follow on twitter called @CyclingBetting who usually does reasonably well and provides good insight on form / picks for the stage etc.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,391
    Lil'Pete was tipping an Angry Sagan for today....

    Sounds like he's trying at least!
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    edited September 2020
    I really don't get what Bora are about.
    The guy who never rides the Ardennes classics expects to win an Ardennes styled stage.

    As Kirby said, it's much more suited to Schachmann.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,692
    blazing_saddles said:



    As Kirby said, it's much more suited to Schachmann.

    Get out
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    blazing_saddles said:

    I really don't get what Bora are about.
    The guy who never rides the Ardennes classics expects to win an Ardennes styled stage.

    As Kirby said, it's much more suited to Schachmann.

    Everyone is assuming Bora are doing this for Sagan. Unlikely I know, but conceivably, they have another plan.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    DeadCalm said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    I really don't get what Bora are about.
    The guy who never rides the Ardennes classics expects to win an Ardennes styled stage.

    As Kirby said, it's much more suited to Schachmann.

    Everyone is assuming Bora are doing this for Sagan. Unlikely I know, but conceivably, they have another plan.
    Any other plan could have involved sticking a rider in the break and then chilling out for 200km
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  • mididoctors
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    Postelberger?
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    As I said, unlikely but, on boring stages, I occasionally entertain myself with a touch of fantastical tactical musing and a scenario where Bora are somehow brilliantly using Sagan as a decoy tickled my fancy.
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