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TDF 2020 - Stage 8: Cazères-sur-Garonne - Loudenvielle 141 km *Spoilers*

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  • phil485phil485 Posts: 348
    good stage apart from the idiots in the crowd. be interesting if anything official is said. Riders dont need all that added risk
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,375
    Harry182 said:

    Why was Zakarin relegated to 4th?

    He was relegated on account of him descending like a sack of potatoes.
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 11,067

    Harry182 said:

    Why was Zakarin relegated to 4th?

    He was relegated on account of him descending like a sack of potatoes.
    I think a sack of potatoes would descend better
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Harry182 said:

    Why was Zakarin relegated to 4th?

    He was relegated on account of him descending like a sack of potatoes.
    I think a sack of potatoes would descend better
    It was a wide open road on the way down, so you'd have thought just mashing the pedals would be enough.
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 11,067
    Well it's cheap talk from the armchair I guess. 🤭
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,723
    Is it just me, or did Jumbo make a cat's censored of that? Burning most of their riders on the penultimate climb, and leaving Roglic on his own for the last one. And with another mountain day tomorrow. They got no real gain from that today.

    On the other hand, anyone else fancying Quintana to surprise them all? Would love to see it.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Part of me is starting to wonder if Ineos are so far off the boil that we've over-estimated what Jumbo actually had. Plenty of time for the tour to throw up surprises though.
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 11,067
    They are all so pretty close pogacar is going to be difficult to control .
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  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,375

    Well it's cheap talk from the armchair I guess. 🤭

    He lost that stage on the descents, it's pretty fair criticism.

    That first descent, I reckon I could have done better. Or at least, I wouldnt have been on the tops veering all over the place. Although since he would have beaten me to the summit by hours it would have been totally irrelevant.
  • alan_aalan_a Posts: 1,419

    Is it just me, or did Jumbo make a cat's censored of that? Burning most of their riders on the penultimate climb, and leaving Roglic on his own for the last one. And with another mountain day tomorrow. They got no real gain from that today.

    On the other hand, anyone else fancying Quintana to surprise them all? Would love to see it.

    Maybe because of tomorrow they left Rog to do 2nd half of last climb today, saving their fire for tomorrow. Marie Blanque is a steep narrow wee thing on both sides with a long run to the finish. I expect it to blow up there tomorrow.

    From Yates interview it sounds like Tommy D forced the pace rather high at bottom of Pey... almost worked distancing Yates.

  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 60,998 Lives Here

    I bet Jumbo wish they could turn the clock back to the Dauphine.
    That was a bit of a disaster by their new standards.

    Yeah not great
  • Yeah, there are a couple of flys in the JV ointment. Nothing a swift bollocking won’t sort out though.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 19,971
    edited September 2020
    Harry182 said:

    Why was Zakarin relegated to 4th?

    Because he can't descend

    Edit: Beaten to the obvious joke !
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,723

    Yeah, there are a couple of flys in the JV ointment. Nothing a swift bollocking won’t sort out though.

    Who's going to be giving out the bollocking? It was the DS's tactics, not a lack of effort that was the problem IMO
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Yeah, there are a couple of flys in the JV ointment. Nothing a swift bollocking won’t sort out though.

    Who's going to be giving out the bollocking? It was the DS's tactics, not a lack of effort that was the problem IMO
    I agree. The D.S. is ‘staff’ at the end of the day though.

  • Yeah, there are a couple of flys in the JV ointment. Nothing a swift bollocking won’t sort out though.

    Who's going to be giving out the bollocking? It was the DS's tactics, not a lack of effort that was the problem IMO
    I agree. The D.S. is ‘staff’ at the end of the day though.

    The Boeing chief exec will be on the phone to shout at him.
  • brundonbianchibrundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited September 2020

    Yeah, there are a couple of flys in the JV ointment. Nothing a swift bollocking won’t sort out though.

    Who's going to be giving out the bollocking? It was the DS's tactics, not a lack of effort that was the problem IMO
    I agree. The D.S. is ‘staff’ at the end of the day though.

    The Boeing chief exec will be on the phone to shout at him.
    Many a true word spoken with electrodes on the scrotum.

  • Matti66Matti66 Posts: 189
    Roglic still no1 favourite I’d imagine , so far anyway . Its better for the race that TD lost some time atm its More like a Vuelta than a July Tour.
  • I bet Jumbo wish they could turn the clock back to the Dauphine.
    That was a bit of a disaster by their new standards.

    Yeah not great

    I thought at this point of the race Jumbo would have 3 or even 4 riders threatening the GC, but after today they have just one.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ProssPross Posts: 31,634

    I bet Jumbo wish they could turn the clock back to the Dauphine.
    That was a bit of a disaster by their new standards.

    Yeah not great

    I thought at this point of the race Jumbo would have 3 or even 4 riders threatening the GC, but after today they have just one.
    It's great. No-one with two cards to play, no team really dominant and a big group of riders in contention.
  • Really enjoyed that. Fair play to Yates for that ride.

    Also, Quintana... he looked good.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,883
    Every time the Tour comes around I seem to acquire an interest in Monster Carp
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 19,247
    edited September 2020
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ProssPross Posts: 31,634
    RichN95. said:

    Every time the Tour comes around I seem to acquire an interest in Monster Carp

    I like a bit of fishing but don't get much time for it but I'm enjoying Monster Carp today too, can only dream of catching anything that size. The Dean Macey one last week was enjoyable too.
  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 3,848


    Meanwhile, new climbing record by some margin for Pogacar.

    http://www.climbing-records.com/search?q=PEYRESOURDE

    WTF is that site? It's almost indecipherable. Looks like something Antoine Vayer would be involved in.
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    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • DeadCalm said:


    Meanwhile, new climbing record by some margin for Pogacar.

    http://www.climbing-records.com/search?q=PEYRESOURDE

    WTF is that site? It's almost indecipherable. Looks like something Antoine Vayer would be involved in.
    It's been going for years. Full of all the major climbing records but nothing like Vayer, as they don't come with any ? marks.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 60,998 Lives Here

    I bet Jumbo wish they could turn the clock back to the Dauphine.
    That was a bit of a disaster by their new standards.

    Yeah not great

    I thought at this point of the race Jumbo would have 3 or even 4 riders threatening the GC, but after today they have just one.
    They’re missing Kruiswijk
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 60,998 Lives Here
    Ah beaten to it
  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 3,848
    Despite the inevitable collapse of my man Pinot, that was an excellent stage very much to my surprise. At 50 km to go I was convinced it was going to be a damp squib.

    Fortunately, Jumbo, it seems, are guilty of believing the hype. We also saw that Roglic is strong, but not as dominant as most of us thought.

    Ineos seem to be marginally stronger than we were led to believe but aren't looking like they can dominate the race. Bernal doesn't seem able to counter short, sharp attacks but is hanging in there, much as he did last year.

    Roglic and Bernal are still the favourites in my eyes but have both shown enough signs of weakness (or at least their teams have) that it wouldn't be a huge surprise if neither of them won.

    Im loving it.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
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