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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,207

    I cannot believe someone with a 32” inside leg, riding a 55cm frame would have the seatpost at its fullest extent. I ride a 55cm TT - both my Colnagos are 52s, which is 55TT, and my winter Felt is a 55TT too. None of them are anywhere near maximum extent on the seatpost, and I’m 5’11.5” with a 33” inside leg.

    PP

    In between being told I am an idiot for thinking marketing photos do anything other than show the maximum height of bars (!?), and being castigated for suggesting that a 55cm was possibly the right size for his height, I believe I made exactly this point.

    So glad you've caught up. :)
  • yellowv2
    yellowv2 Posts: 282
    I wouldn't mine the fishing equipment jibe, if it were an Italian made frame, rather than a mass produced carbon frame like most others, from the Far East!
  • For the time being I’ll just stick with what works for me, as far as bike frame sizing goes, which is my inside leg measurement (32 inches ) -10 inches ( 22 inches ) which I believe equals 55.88 cm, which is pretty close to 55cm, which ( astonishingly ) is the frame size I have, then set up the cockpit according to my reach and what’s comfortable, which ( oddly ) is exactly what I’ve done.

    Apparently, you haven't done that though. You said earlier that you alter your stem stack height depending on how fast you want to go. So which is it - fixed position or variable..?
    I vary it. If I’m ‘on it’ I’ll set it as required, it’s rarely comfy. If I’m just riding, I’ll set it so it’s more comfy ( relatively speaking). The adjustments aren’t massive, they always look ‘seat post up, stem down’ it’s the exact amount that changes. I have other bikes, they remain in the positions I set, the Bianchi is the one that’s most adjustable, and responds best to the adjustments.
  • brundonbianchi
    brundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited August 2020

    I'm sure Jumbo Visma are riding with rim brakes.

    I can’t remember whether they’ll all be riding with rim brakes, or there’s a choice. They are using Shimano groupsets though, which is a shame.

    Yes, J V are really suffering with their rim brakes and Shimano groupsets at the moment. Maybe you should apply for a rech job at J V so that you can fine tune their bikes on a daily basis, depending on the type of "ride" for that day's stage.
    Imagine how well they’d be doing if they weren’t using fishing equipment. It’s total sacrilege / heresy to not use Campag kit on a Bianchi, in my opinion.

    Please seek help, you are obviously in dire need of it.
    First time he buys a Campag-equipped bike - after years of saying how fantastic Shimano was - he starts calling Shimano 'fishing equipment' and becomes a Campag bore. That tells you all you need to know.
    I’d have had Campag before now, but it’s pricey. However, now I have it, I don’t know why I didn’t before ( other than I couldn’t fathom that it would be good enough to justify the extra ) It is, it’s just fantastic. There’s nothing wrong with fishing kit ( Shimano) it’s just that given a free choice, I wouldn’t use it. It still works, just not as well. I’d only insist on Campag on an Italian bike, I couldn’t care less what they use on my French bikes.
  • brundonbianchi
    brundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited August 2020

    I cannot believe someone with a 32” inside leg, riding a 55cm frame would have the seatpost at its fullest extent. I ride a 55cm TT - both my Colnagos are 52s, which is 55TT, and my winter Felt is a 55TT too. None of them are anywhere near maximum extent on the seatpost, and I’m 5’11.5” with a 33” inside leg.

    PP

    I’ve got a long Torso and ‘Mr. Tickle’ arms. That position is what works for me. I’ve tried other iterations of seat height and stem height / length, and I just feel unbalanced. I can ride all day in the position I’ve set. Also, The Bianchi has a compact frame ( curved top tube) the extra seat post compensates for that.

  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    For the time being I’ll just stick with what works for me, as far as bike frame sizing goes, which is my inside leg measurement (32 inches ) -10 inches ( 22 inches ) which I believe equals 55.88 cm, which is pretty close to 55cm, which ( astonishingly ) is the frame size I have, then set up the cockpit according to my reach and what’s comfortable, which ( oddly ) is exactly what I’ve done.

    Apparently, you haven't done that though. You said earlier that you alter your stem stack height depending on how fast you want to go. So which is it - fixed position or variable..?
    I vary it. If I’m ‘on it’ I’ll set it as required, it’s rarely comfy. If I’m just riding, I’ll set it so it’s more comfy ( relatively speaking). The adjustments aren’t massive, they always look ‘seat post up, stem down’ it’s the exact amount that changes. I have other bikes, they remain in the positions I set, the Bianchi is the one that’s most adjustable, and responds best to the adjustments.
    You just can't help but keep digging, can you. "On it", ffs...
  • brundonbianchi
    brundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited August 2020
    webboo said:

    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.

    I don’t imagine it does, but my average is closer to 19mph ( on an effort where I care ) at a cadence of 80-90, and an NP OF 230-250 Watts. Which isn’t bad for someone who gives less than a single frig about it really. I’m an old fart, and an amateur, and I don’t race ( and never have ) I just do whatever I need to do, and vary it according to circumstance. I rarely ‘open the taps’ I rarely need to,

  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    webboo said:

    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.

    I don’t imagine it does, but my average is closer to 19mph ( on an effort where I care ) at a cadence of 80-90, and an NP OF 230-250 Watts. Which isn’t bad for someone who gives less than a single frig about it really.

    Yes it’s not bad but it won’t be yours as was proven when you were shitmuncher.
  • brundonbianchi
    brundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited August 2020
    yellowv2 said:

    I wouldn't mine the fishing equipment jibe, if it were an Italian made frame, rather than a mass produced carbon frame like most others, from the Far East!

    Yada yada yada. The frame is pressed out in Asia ( loads are ) The bike is assembled and finished in Italy. That’s what counts. Bianchi have a ‘one tech, one bike’ system. I know who put my bike together. Modern stuff means it’s traceable via a QR code on the frame too. It’s witchcraft I tells ya.
  • I cannot believe someone with a 32” inside leg, riding a 55cm frame would have the seatpost at its fullest extent. I ride a 55cm TT - both my Colnagos are 52s, which is 55TT, and my winter Felt is a 55TT too. None of them are anywhere near maximum extent on the seatpost, and I’m 5’11.5” with a 33” inside leg.

    PP

    In between being told I am an idiot for thinking marketing photos do anything other than show the maximum height of bars (!?), and being castigated for suggesting that a 55cm was possibly the right size for his height, I believe I made exactly this point.

    So glad you've caught up. :)
    Quite right. If it was wrong, I’d be the person best placed to know about it. It’s like a savile row suit. Absolutely bang on.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    webboo said:

    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.

    I don’t imagine it does, but my average is closer to 19mph ( on an effort where I care ) at a cadence of 80-90, and an NP OF 230-250 Watts. Which isn’t bad for someone who gives less than a single frig about it really. I’m an old fart, and an amateur, and I don’t race ( and never have ) I just do whatever I need to do, and vary it according to circumstance. I rarely ‘open the taps’ I rarely need to,

    That's interesting, because you have previously claimed to have been a keen crit racer, and a cycle coach, and a materials scientist, and probably a load of other stuff that you forgot that you previously lied about.

    Your bullshiit is catching up with you Nick.

  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    That’s the issue with sociopaths they think they brighter than everybody else. They never think someone might be a bit sharper than them and catch them out.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    yellowv2 said:

    I wouldn't mine the fishing equipment jibe, if it were an Italian made frame, rather than a mass produced carbon frame like most others, from the Far East!

    Yada yada yada. The frame is pressed out in Asia ( loads are ) The bike is assembled and finished in Italy. That’s what counts. Bianchi have a ‘one tech, one bike’ system. I know who put my bike together. Modern stuff means it’s traceable via a QR code on the frame too. It’s witchcraft I tells ya.
    Can you explain what difference it makes if your bike is assembled by an Italian national, a Chinese national, a Vietnamese national or a Taiwanese national? Can you also explain why anyone should give a shiit about the QR code. I've had plenty of bikes with QR codes and never once have I given them a second thought...
  • yellowv2
    yellowv2 Posts: 282
    So in that case it is equally suited to a Shimano groupset, which is made where? Oh yes the Far East, same as the frame!
  • yellowv2 said:

    So in that case it is equally suited to a Shimano groupset, which is made where? Oh yes the Far East, same as the frame!

    True enough. But Shimano just isn’t as nice to use as the equivalent level Campag, in my experience. Something as simple as a freehub, is so much more robust in Campag guise.

    It looks like it’s a set of RSJs arranged around the hub. The Shimano ones are flimsy in comparison. That’s the thing I’ve found. Campag stuff is over engineered, Shimano is engineered just enough to ensure it fails at the most inopportune moment. You pay more for Campag, but you get what you pay for.


  • webboo said:

    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.

    I don’t imagine it does, but my average is closer to 19mph ( on an effort where I care ) at a cadence of 80-90, and an NP OF 230-250 Watts. Which isn’t bad for someone who gives less than a single frig about it really. I’m an old fart, and an amateur, and I don’t race ( and never have ) I just do whatever I need to do, and vary it according to circumstance. I rarely ‘open the taps’ I rarely need to,

    That's interesting, because you have previously claimed to have been a keen crit racer, and a cycle coach, and a materials scientist, and probably a load of other stuff that you forgot that you previously lied about.

    Your bullshiit is catching up with you Nick.

    I’ve never raced professionally, is what I was trying to say. I am a materials scientist, have been for decades. I’d never claim to be a professional coach, but I have coached riders in the past

  • brundonbianchi
    brundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited August 2020

    yellowv2 said:

    I wouldn't mine the fishing equipment jibe, if it were an Italian made frame, rather than a mass produced carbon frame like most others, from the Far East!

    Yada yada yada. The frame is pressed out in Asia ( loads are ) The bike is assembled and finished in Italy. That’s what counts. Bianchi have a ‘one tech, one bike’ system. I know who put my bike together. Modern stuff means it’s traceable via a QR code on the frame too. It’s witchcraft I tells ya.
    Can you explain what difference it makes if your bike is assembled by an Italian national, a Chinese national, a Vietnamese national or a Taiwanese national? Can you also explain why anyone should give a shiit about the QR code. I've had plenty of bikes with QR codes and never once have I given them a second thought...
    I couldn’t care less about the nationality of the tech who’s assembled the bike, it’s about the work practices of the assembly environment / company / factory. As for the QR code, well it proves the bike isn’t a knock off / copy. One check, gives all the history of the build, very easily.
  • brundonbianchi
    brundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited August 2020
    webboo said:

    That’s the issue with sociopaths they think they brighter than everybody else. They never think someone might be a bit sharper than them and catch them out.

    No ones “caught anyone out” just misquoted / taken out of context, to try and look clever, and failed.

  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    webboo said:

    That’s the issue with sociopaths they think they brighter than everybody else. They never think someone might be a bit sharper than them and catch them out.

    No ones “caught anyone out” just misquoted / taken out of context, to try and look clever, and failed.

    Finally you have got some insight in to yourself.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508

    webboo said:

    That’s the issue with sociopaths they think they brighter than everybody else. They never think someone might be a bit sharper than them and catch them out.

    No ones “caught anyone out” just misquoted / taken out of context, to try and look clever, and failed.

    Do you honestly not see that when you make comments like “ Shimano is engineered just enough to ensure it fails at the most inopportune moment” you come across exactly like someone who’s trying to look clever/knowledgeable but fall short?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    webboo said:

    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.

    I don’t imagine it does, but my average is closer to 19mph ( on an effort where I care ) at a cadence of 80-90, and an NP OF 230-250 Watts. Which isn’t bad for someone who gives less than a single frig about it really. I’m an old fart, and an amateur, and I don’t race ( and never have ) I just do whatever I need to do, and vary it according to circumstance. I rarely ‘open the taps’ I rarely need to,

    That's interesting, because you have previously claimed to have been a keen crit racer, and a cycle coach, and a materials scientist, and probably a load of other stuff that you forgot that you previously lied about.

    Your bullshiit is catching up with you Nick.

    I’ve never raced professionally, is what I was trying to say. I am a materials scientist, have been for decades. I’d never claim to be a professional coach, but I have coached riders in the past

    So you've 'never raced professionally' - or you've 'never raced at all' - which is it? I only ask because BC's race results archive goes all the way back to 1998 and there are no records at all for anyone with your name.

    And no, you are not a materials scientist - at least not a qualified one. And neither are you a qualified cycle coach. Giving a few people some questionable advice while out on your bike, or on the internet, does not make you an actual coach.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,346
    shortfall said:

    Love these threads 😂

    Yeah.

    I'd like to chuck in my twopenneth worth but what's the point?

    I'll do it anyway :)

    I'm glad discs have shot up in popularity 'cos I just bought a pair of second hand Fulcrum racing zero's (for rim brakes) in super condition (apparently) for not too much money.

    In the description: "I swapped over to disc brakes so no longer needed them".
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • johngti said:

    webboo said:

    That’s the issue with sociopaths they think they brighter than everybody else. They never think someone might be a bit sharper than them and catch them out.

    No ones “caught anyone out” just misquoted / taken out of context, to try and look clever, and failed.

    Do you honestly not see that when you make comments like “ Shimano is engineered just enough to ensure it fails at the most inopportune moment” you come across exactly like someone who’s trying to look clever/knowledgeable but fall short?
    I base what I say on my experience. YMMV.

  • pinno said:

    shortfall said:

    Love these threads 😂

    Yeah.

    I'd like to chuck in my twopenneth worth but what's the point?

    I'll do it anyway :)

    I'm glad discs have shot up in popularity 'cos I just bought a pair of second hand Fulcrum racing zero's (for rim brakes) in super condition (apparently) for not too much money.

    In the description: "I swapped over to disc brakes so no longer needed them".
    I rode one of my rimmed brake bikes today, over the ( modified ) PRLS 100 route. It took a lot of ‘forward thinking’ I’ve got used to the ‘over braked’ disc set up, and the difference is quite a shocker, especially if the rims get wet.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508

    johngti said:

    webboo said:

    That’s the issue with sociopaths they think they brighter than everybody else. They never think someone might be a bit sharper than them and catch them out.

    No ones “caught anyone out” just misquoted / taken out of context, to try and look clever, and failed.

    Do you honestly not see that when you make comments like “ Shimano is engineered just enough to ensure it fails at the most inopportune moment” you come across exactly like someone who’s trying to look clever/knowledgeable but fall short?
    I base what I say on my experience. YMMV.

    Sample size = 1. Yet statements made as if they were universal truths. Making my point very clearly.

  • webboo said:

    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.

    I don’t imagine it does, but my average is closer to 19mph ( on an effort where I care ) at a cadence of 80-90, and an NP OF 230-250 Watts. Which isn’t bad for someone who gives less than a single frig about it really. I’m an old fart, and an amateur, and I don’t race ( and never have ) I just do whatever I need to do, and vary it according to circumstance. I rarely ‘open the taps’ I rarely need to,

    That's interesting, because you have previously claimed to have been a keen crit racer, and a cycle coach, and a materials scientist, and probably a load of other stuff that you forgot that you previously lied about.

    Your bullshiit is catching up with you Nick.

    I’ve never raced professionally, is what I was trying to say. I am a materials scientist, have been for decades. I’d never claim to be a professional coach, but I have coached riders in the past

    So you've 'never raced professionally' - or you've 'never raced at all' - which is it? I only ask because BC's race results archive goes all the way back to 1998 and there are no records at all for anyone with your name.

    And no, you are not a materials scientist - at least not a qualified one. And neither are you a qualified cycle coach. Giving a few people some questionable advice while out on your bike, or on the internet, does not make you an actual coach.
    You’d have to go back a lot further than 1998 to find me on any register, I doubt there are any ‘non paper’ footprints. I am a fully qualified materials scientist, and as I said, I’m not a professionally accredited coach ( just yet ) I’m working on that, but Corona stuff is really getting in the way of that at present.
  • Will the folk you’re coaching have to wear heavy rucksacks and will their rides be recorded on multiple Garmins?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited August 2020

    webboo said:

    I don’t suppose it matters what position you ride if you are doing under 15 mph average with a cadence of 50 revs per minute.

    I don’t imagine it does, but my average is closer to 19mph ( on an effort where I care ) at a cadence of 80-90, and an NP OF 230-250 Watts. Which isn’t bad for someone who gives less than a single frig about it really. I’m an old fart, and an amateur, and I don’t race ( and never have ) I just do whatever I need to do, and vary it according to circumstance. I rarely ‘open the taps’ I rarely need to,

    That's interesting, because you have previously claimed to have been a keen crit racer, and a cycle coach, and a materials scientist, and probably a load of other stuff that you forgot that you previously lied about.

    Your bullshiit is catching up with you Nick.

    I’ve never raced professionally, is what I was trying to say. I am a materials scientist, have been for decades. I’d never claim to be a professional coach, but I have coached riders in the past

    So you've 'never raced professionally' - or you've 'never raced at all' - which is it? I only ask because BC's race results archive goes all the way back to 1998 and there are no records at all for anyone with your name.

    And no, you are not a materials scientist - at least not a qualified one. And neither are you a qualified cycle coach. Giving a few people some questionable advice while out on your bike, or on the internet, does not make you an actual coach.
    You’d have to go back a lot further than 1998 to find me on any register, I doubt there are any ‘non paper’ footprints. I am a fully qualified materials scientist, and as I said, I’m not a professionally accredited coach ( just yet ) I’m working on that, but Corona stuff is really getting in the way of that at present.
    Fking hell, you're getting desperate. You're not a materials scientist, you're a QA technician for Fibercore in Southampton and an ex BT telephone installer. Loads of people have outed you on this previously.

    Now you admit to not being an accredited coach, despite previously claiming on here, on cyclechat and on CUK that you were.

    You also claimed on here under previous usernames to have been racing a lot more recently than 22 years ago. Earlier on this thread you said that you 'don't race' and 'never have'. Like I said before, you lie so much and so often, that you've obviously forgotten what you've been lying about. Which is understandable, but I don't get why you don't just admit you have a problem with compulsion and try to get some help with it.

  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    I know I suggested Sociopathic behaviour however I’m now thinking Narcissistic Personality disorder, thinks he’s superior to everyone else. Others are either gods or servants, once crossed has to get back at or wound others.
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