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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325

    Round here it seems to be bizarrely unpopular that they’re digging up the pavement to install hyper fast broadband for the whole neighbourhood. I mean, the option for a gigabit connection is 👌🏻👌🏻

    People losing their minds over a few days of inconvenience.

    Yeahbbut fibre optics spread Covid
    left the forum March 2023
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593

    Round here it seems to be bizarrely unpopular that they’re digging up the pavement to install hyper fast broadband for the whole neighbourhood. I mean, the option for a gigabit connection is 👌🏻👌🏻

    People losing their minds over a few days of inconvenience.

    Standard isn't it? The very same people who moan about potholes on the roads and demand action complain about roadworks when the potholes are being repaired. People object to planning applications because there aren't enough schools, the same people then complain about a planning application for a new school. People are tw@ts.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,386

    Not sure why anyone would want to spend money on a suit...
    Last interview in 2015 I wasn't even wearing one, I got the job anyway

    What do you do for a living?

    We would frown upon a prospective trainee turning up in only smart trousers, shirt and a sports jacket (in American terms).
    I teach chemistry at Uni
    The academic sector is hardly representative of the rest of the world, is it? Even in Victorian times, ratty tweed and elbow patches were de rigueur. Looking in any way smart puts a real brake on your academic career.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325


    The academic sector is hardly representative of the rest of the world, is it? Even in Victorian times, ratty tweed and elbow patches were de rigueur. Looking in any way smart puts a real brake on your academic career.

    You just have a lot of stereotypical nonsense in your head... this idea that "the real world" is somewhat different is flawed. I've collaborated with many people in science and engineering private settings and nobody really wear suits anymore.

    Most academics would wear a suit for an interview, I just decided not to on that occasion, because I didn't have one, the interview was at short notice and as I said above, I didn't want to join an organisation that cares about the way I dress.


    Broadly speaking, if you wear a suit is because you are trying to sell me something...
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,386


    The academic sector is hardly representative of the rest of the world, is it? Even in Victorian times, ratty tweed and elbow patches were de rigueur. Looking in any way smart puts a real brake on your academic career.

    You just have a lot of stereotypical nonsense in your head... this idea that "the real world" is somewhat different is flawed. I've collaborated with many people in science and engineering private settings and nobody really wear suits anymore.

    Most academics would wear a suit for an interview, I just decided not to on that occasion, because I didn't have one, the interview was at short notice and as I said above, I didn't want to join an organisation that cares about the way I dress.


    Broadly speaking, if you wear a suit is because you are trying to sell me something...
    Or trying to tell you something. Sometimes at an expensive hourly rate.

    The R&D people you will be meeting never wore suits. You just haven't met the people important enough to need to wear suits.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087


    The academic sector is hardly representative of the rest of the world, is it? Even in Victorian times, ratty tweed and elbow patches were de rigueur. Looking in any way smart puts a real brake on your academic career.

    You just have a lot of stereotypical nonsense in your head... this idea that "the real world" is somewhat different is flawed. I've collaborated with many people in science and engineering private settings and nobody really wear suits anymore.

    Most academics would wear a suit for an interview, I just decided not to on that occasion, because I didn't have one, the interview was at short notice and as I said above, I didn't want to join an organisation that cares about the way I dress.


    Broadly speaking, if you wear a suit is because you are trying to sell me something...
    So when I go out with the wife tonight and wear one of my suits. Just what will I be trying to sell you.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325



    The R&D people you will be meeting never wore suits. You just haven't met the people important enough to need to wear suits.

    Yeah, like the guy standing at the door at Barclays, showing customers how to use a cash machine... or the bouncer at a Spearmint Rhino branch... or a floor manager at Tesco...


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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,386



    The R&D people you will be meeting never wore suits. You just haven't met the people important enough to need to wear suits.

    Yeah, like the guy standing at the door at Barclays, showing customers how to use a cash machine... or the bouncer at a Spearmint Rhino branch... or a floor manager at Tesco...
    ...Or a solicitor, barrister or patent attorney advising a university, or perhaps the CEO, CFO or any other actual decision maker at the companies you collaborate with.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Damn, you are right... my cousin is the director of the European Patent Office in Munich and he is depicted with a suit on Linkedin... :D

    Anyway... my plan is to never need one again...

    left the forum March 2023
  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974

    Round here it seems to be bizarrely unpopular that they’re digging up the pavement to install hyper fast broadband for the whole neighbourhood. I mean, the option for a gigabit connection is 👌🏻👌🏻

    People losing their minds over a few days of inconvenience.

    We haven't even got 'cable'.

    It stopped about 200m to the east of me, and about 5km to the west.


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    WAG should add England to the list of countries having to 14 day quarantine before they can pack like sardines into holiday towns, pubs and beaches in Wales.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    capt_slog said:

    Round here it seems to be bizarrely unpopular that they’re digging up the pavement to install hyper fast broadband for the whole neighbourhood. I mean, the option for a gigabit connection is 👌🏻👌🏻

    People losing their minds over a few days of inconvenience.

    We haven't even got 'cable'.

    It stopped about 200m to the east of me, and about 5km to the west.
    I know, right?

    To be honest if they were given £1m each they’d find something to complain about.

    The local bridge has been shut to private cars and taxis (but not cyclists or buses or peds so a total result) and they have been going bananas about it.

    I think it’s all caught up in gentrification anxieties issues.

    Anyway.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717

    capt_slog said:

    Round here it seems to be bizarrely unpopular that they’re digging up the pavement to install hyper fast broadband for the whole neighbourhood. I mean, the option for a gigabit connection is 👌🏻👌🏻

    People losing their minds over a few days of inconvenience.

    We haven't even got 'cable'.

    It stopped about 200m to the east of me, and about 5km to the west.
    I know, right?

    To be honest if they were given £1m each they’d find something to complain about.

    The local bridge has been shut to private cars and taxis (but not cyclists or buses or peds so a total result) and they have been going bananas about it.

    I think it’s all caught up in gentrification anxieties issues.

    Anyway.
    Our little Cornish village finally got what used to be called superfast BB this week...

    We've finally joined the HD World 🙄
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    If I didn’t have a toddler I’d be very excited about a gigabit connection for gaming reasons but alas.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    I am not convinced that makes any sense
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,386
    I have 6 Mbps and we don't quite get 4G. I live 11 miles due south of the Scottish parliament building and I can actually see it from my house. But we are too "remote" to be part of the 100% superfast roll out.

    We will get "vouchers" instead for some other option. Seeing as the only other option would be a satellite dish, for about 128kb of very expensive data a month, it will need to be a hell of a voucher.

    Got to love SNP policies. Using tax payer money to fund private companies to finish what the private companies they've already paid to do the same thing.

    Shambles.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Still not relevant as still mid outbreak.

    If (and I acknowledge it is an if) Sweden are through this a year before comparable economies and functioning close to 100% whilst others see further economic suppression, they could fare much better.

    They may not, I don’t know what will happen, but I will keep calling out the declaring of winners and losers part way through the process.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    All economies currently suffering regardless of the degree of lockdown as the entire global economy has slowed.

    You are reading causes and effects (as is the tweet) that simply can’t be supported as proven. Possibly they could be in the future but not now.

    If the lockdown outcome is simply delayed mortality and the economic impacts are worse under long term suppression, the tweet will be wrong.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,813
    edited July 2020

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Stevo_666 said:

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    Sweden has gained very little economically, so far, from no lockdown.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,813

    Stevo_666 said:

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    Sweden has gained very little economically, so far, from no lockdown.
    That's not evidence.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490

    Stevo_666 said:

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    Sweden has gained very little economically, so far, from no lockdown.
    I'd argue that the Swede's version of no "lockdown" but remaining socially distant could have been fairly equivalent to our "lockdown".
    Trouble for us is that we needed a lockdown as we (as a nation) are incapable of abiding by simple inconvenient guidelines without our hands being forced.
    For example - "We advise not to go to the pub but pubs can remain open". Pubs rammed.

    The bold part is my opinion and I'm sure it will be an unpopular one.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Jeremy.89
    Jeremy.89 Posts: 457
    Honestly, I'm not sure telling people that they shouldn't go to the pubs, but that pubs should remain open, makes any sense.

  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,996
    pblakeney said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    Sweden has gained very little economically, so far, from no lockdown.
    I'd argue that the Swede's version of no "lockdown" but remaining socially distant could have been fairly equivalent to our "lockdown".
    Trouble for us is that we needed a lockdown as we (as a nation) are incapable of abiding by simple inconvenient guidelines without our hands being forced.
    For example - "We advise not to go to the pub but pubs can remain open". Pubs rammed.

    The bold part is my opinion and I'm sure it will be an unpopular one.
    Someone once posted on here that if lack of common sense was a risk factor in contracting and dying of covid, we would be facing a near extinction event.

    Witness how people behave when they are out. In the supermarkets people were content to queue outside, but once inside it was like Wacky Races. They couldn't even follow one way arrows properly.
    Now people seem to regard the masks as some sort of hazmat suit which makes them invulnerable. Madness
    As for people going to the pub.

    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/health/coronavirus-covid19/2020/07/29/dozens-queue-to-be-tested-for-coronavirus-after-outbreak-at-stone-pub/

    Vast numbers of people deserve to catch it for their stupidity. Unfortunately, it won't necessarily be the criminally stupid that are taken out of the gene pool.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    Sweden has gained very little economically, so far, from no lockdown.
    That's not evidence.
    Just a remarkable coincidence.

    How is the US or Brazilian economy doing?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    pblakeney said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    Sweden has gained very little economically, so far, from no lockdown.
    I'd argue that the Swede's version of no "lockdown" but remaining socially distant could have been fairly equivalent to our "lockdown".
    Trouble for us is that we needed a lockdown as we (as a nation) are incapable of abiding by simple inconvenient guidelines without our hands being forced.
    For example - "We advise not to go to the pub but pubs can remain open". Pubs rammed.

    The bold part is my opinion and I'm sure it will be an unpopular one.
    I can’t find the chart but Swedish activity levels remained materially higher than the rest of Europe, even if they still had a big drop off.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490
    So could ours if people could actually abide by a sensible instruction to maintain social distancing. They can't and there is plenty evidence if that.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,813

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Not sure you’ve understood the “public health interventions don’t hurt economies, viruses do” bit of that argument.

    You state that as if it is fact. Got some evidence that lockdowns don't have negative economic implications? As recent experience suggests otherwise.
    Sweden has gained very little economically, so far, from no lockdown.
    That's not evidence.
    Just a remarkable coincidence.

    How is the US or Brazilian economy doing?
    I'm still waiting for evidence to back up the statement above before we move onto another point.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]