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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    edited December 2021
    tailwindhome said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Can somebody explain what difference moving into level 4 will make

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    Another use of "clarify" to mean "correct".
  • mully79
    mully79 Posts: 904
    rick_chasey said:

    mully79 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    mully79 said:

    im calling BS on vaccine boosters being proved effective. whats the sample size that has had enough time to prove being boosted is successful yet we dont know how dangerous Omnicron is ?
    Think im turning into a vaccinated anti-vaxxer.

    🎶thick as shiiiiiiiit 🎵
    rjsterry said:

    mully79 said:

    im calling BS on vaccine boosters being proved effective. whats the sample size that has had enough time to prove being boosted is successful yet we dont know how dangerous Omnicron is ?
    Think im turning into a vaccinated anti-vaxxer.

    🤦🏻‍♂️ This is exhausting.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2814

    https://www.ft.com/content/d4e58d38-37d6-40cd-9d72-6b9bfd0a3683

    From the second link

    In a trial with 10,000 participants who had all completed a two-shot Pfizer regimen, half were randomised to receive a further equal-strength dose of the shot, and half a placebo. Five cases of Covid were registered in patients receiving the booster compared with 109 who were given a placebo.


    We've administered about 22 million and counting.
    5 of 10000 versus 109 of 10000. Quick give me a booster.

    In my randomised sample of 1 person, none of the test subjects who drank Stella everyday have contracted Corona.
    Be glad there are more clever people than you doing this stuff so you don't have to.
    Clever people who realise they need to get 30 million £22 booster shots into arms as quickly as possible so they can release the 4th Omicron version of the jab in February.

  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Ah so it's a conspiracy targeted specifically at the UK, and the rest of the world is collateral damage?
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,561
    rick_chasey said:

    So a quick dash to the walk in here to try and bag an earlier booster. Gigantic queues, and they are only admitting walk in jabs for 1st and 2nd jabs and not the 3rd booster.

    I think what's happened here is now the vaccine passport is coming in, lots of the students who didn't get vaccinated now are, and so they are at max capacity sorting those out.

    Haven't most of the Cambridge students gone home as term finished 10 days ago for them?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,561
    rick_chasey said:

    So a quick dash to the walk in here to try and bag an earlier booster. Gigantic queues, and they are only admitting walk in jabs for 1st and 2nd jabs and not the 3rd booster.

    I think what's happened here is now the vaccine passport is coming in, lots of the students who didn't get vaccinated now are, and so they are at max capacity sorting those out.

    Haven't most of the Cambridge students gone home as term finished 10 days ago for them?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Whole 'nother uni here.
    _
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,561
    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    So that mum (or dad) does your washing, your cleaning and cooks your diner?
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    Yeah, I know a kid who's studying sports stuff in the Forest of Dean and he goes in when he wants.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
    Well that settles it definitively then.

    You get turfed out of college rooms so they can rent them out to conferences, but you only get a college room in your first and if you are lucky your third year (out of 4, normally) and not at all if you are a postgrad or postdoc. So there's a pretty decent tlyear round student population in Oxford. Cambridge might be different, except it.just isn't.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
    Well that settles it definitively then.

    You get turfed out of college rooms so they can rent them out to conferences, but you only get a college room in your first and if you are lucky your third year (out of 4, normally) and not at all if you are a postgrad or postdoc. So there's a pretty decent tlyear round student population in Oxford. Cambridge might be different, except it.just isn't.
    I thought most at Cambridge were encourage in stay in colleges for their whole time as an undergrad. One of the things that put me off.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    edited December 2021
    TheBigBean said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
    Well that settles it definitively then.

    You get turfed out of college rooms so they can rent them out to conferences, but you only get a college room in your first and if you are lucky your third year (out of 4, normally) and not at all if you are a postgrad or postdoc. So there's a pretty decent tlyear round student population in Oxford. Cambridge might be different, except it.just isn't.
    I thought most at Cambridge were encourage in stay in colleges for their whole time as an undergrad. One of the things that put me off.
    There aren't enough rooms for everyone to live in the whole time.

    The college dorm rents end at the end of term, so there's a financial incentive to head home after first year and get your mum to wash your grundies. Not sure about college owned houses, because ours had precisely three I think, so everyone lived in dives in Cowley instead. Could be a different experience if you are an old Etonian doing Classics at Christchurch I suppose. But I did know such folk and they also lived out, albeit in nicer parts like Iffley.

    Besides, one year in, one out is enough for most people. They are odd places to be.

    Edit again Cambridge could be different, but I can't see why. The one time I visited a gf's friends they were living in a private let somewhere in town and if I'd done a PhD there, that would have been the case for me as well.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
    Well that settles it definitively then.

    You get turfed out of college rooms so they can rent them out to conferences, but you only get a college room in your first and if you are lucky your third year (out of 4, normally) and not at all if you are a postgrad or postdoc. So there's a pretty decent tlyear round student population in Oxford. Cambridge might be different, except it.just isn't.
    In that not everyone is the same?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    tailwindhome said:

    The Ryanair thing was funny but this is better
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
    Well that settles it definitively then.

    You get turfed out of college rooms so they can rent them out to conferences, but you only get a college room in your first and if you are lucky your third year (out of 4, normally) and not at all if you are a postgrad or postdoc. So there's a pretty decent tlyear round student population in Oxford. Cambridge might be different, except it.just isn't.
    In that not everyone is the same?
    See above.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605
    surrey_commuter said:

    tailwindhome said:

    The Ryanair thing was funny but this is better
    I assume these millions of jabs will be got/delivered/offered at one of the 40 new/expanded/renovated/repainted hospitals.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
    Well that settles it definitively then.

    You get turfed out of college rooms so they can rent them out to conferences, but you only get a college room in your first and if you are lucky your third year (out of 4, normally) and not at all if you are a postgrad or postdoc. So there's a pretty decent tlyear round student population in Oxford. Cambridge might be different, except it.just isn't.
    In that not everyone is the same?
    See above.
    I wasn't one of the 6 in my family that went to/are at Oxford, so I'm not smart enough to understand.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    bit of digging and first jab % in Cambridge is 66% which is one of the lowest in the region - would explain why they're now run out of booster spaces and are suggesting residents head further afield.
    _
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstongraham said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Whole 'nother uni here.

    Is also a myth that you get longer holidays at Oxbridge. Terms are shorter, but student lets aren't. If you are paying rent and have a sh!t ton of work set, why go home?
    The current Oxford student I know has been home for a week.
    Well that settles it definitively then.

    You get turfed out of college rooms so they can rent them out to conferences, but you only get a college room in your first and if you are lucky your third year (out of 4, normally) and not at all if you are a postgrad or postdoc. So there's a pretty decent tlyear round student population in Oxford. Cambridge might be different, except it.just isn't.
    In that not everyone is the same?
    See above.
    I wasn't one of the 6 in my family that went to/are at Oxford, so I'm not smart enough to understand.
    Look all I was pointing out was that even if term has ended it is perfectly possible for RCs observation to be accurate.
    No need to get huffy about it.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,817
    briantrumpet said:

    drhaggis said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So a quick dash to the walk in here to try and bag an earlier booster. Gigantic queues, and they are only admitting walk in jabs for 1st and 2nd jabs and not the 3rd booster.

    I think what's happened here is now the vaccine passport is coming in, lots of the students who didn't get vaccinated now are, and so they are at max capacity sorting those out.

    I know it is/was fashionable to blame the yoof, but students in my institution are doing remarkably well. Followed guidance well. Seem to be vaccinating well. Had much lower infection rates than the general scottish population (there is an incentive for them to report it). And this considering they were truly shafted by the pandemic.

    I think that's been the case at Exeter too - the university have really been pushing it. Pretty consistently the 40-59yo age group has had higher rates of infection for some while, which might well be as that cohort was vaccinated earlier, and have school-age children.
    Our kids and most of their friends have been keen to be vaccinated as early as possible, they may not be typical and I'm certainly biased of course. The trouble did say that they are reporting the highest number of cases in London are among people in their 20s.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    Omicron optimism may have been premature. First recorded death.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59632655
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited December 2021
    pblakeney said:

    Omicron optimism may have been premature. First recorded death.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59632655

    I thought the optimism was that it would not cause more severe illness than delta - which was already seeing off about a thousand a week.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    kingstongraham said:

    pblakeney said:

    Omicron optimism may have been premature. First recorded death.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59632655

    I thought the optimism was that it would not cause more severe illness than delta - which was already seeing off about a thousand a week.
    I thought the optimism was that it was less severe than Delta. Certainly appeared that way on this forum and on the socials some are saying we can just live with it.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    I'm late to the party, but I'm not sure I understand school closures. Just did a zoom call where three of the teachers were huddled together on the same computer.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    edited December 2021
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    TheBigBean said:

    I'm late to the party, but I'm not sure I understand school closures. Just did a zoom call where three of the teachers were huddled together on the same computer.

    They might have been drama teachers.

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