Should Mark Cavendish swallow his pride and retire?
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Oh my Dennis you folk on the other side of the pond really don’t get it when someone’s being sarcastic.dennisn said:
That's a load of censored . How about you quitting your job so some young kid can take it? Sound good?Pross said:He should swallow his pride and retire for the benefit of the new generation of sprinters that can't get a look in.
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Good to see Dennis out of hibernation again but not fully awake.1
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I don't know, that why I asked the question. It's just the scale of the graph is deceptive. If Cav can't compete over a long series of 100m hills, then I guess he won't enter except maybe for race experience.kingstongraham said:
You think it's a Cavendish race?mrfpb said:
That's a deceptive graphic. The altitude barely goes above 100m.kingstongraham said:There's not a yard of flat for the last 200km of this years worlds.
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It’s not a case of whether he will enter, it’s a case getting of picked for GB team.mrfpb said:
I don't know, that why I asked the question. It's just the scale of the graph is deceptive. If Cav can't compete over a long series of 100m hills, then I guess he won't enter except maybe for race experience.kingstongraham said:
You think it's a Cavendish race?mrfpb said:
That's a deceptive graphic. The altitude barely goes above 100m.kingstongraham said:There's not a yard of flat for the last 200km of this years worlds.
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I think he's probably got enough experience by now, tbf.mrfpb said:
I don't know, that why I asked the question. It's just the scale of the graph is deceptive. If Cav can't compete over a long series of 100m hills, then I guess he won't enter except maybe for race experience.kingstongraham said:
You think it's a Cavendish race?mrfpb said:
That's a deceptive graphic. The altitude barely goes above 100m.kingstongraham said:There's not a yard of flat for the last 200km of this years worlds.
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I was thinking more post-recovery experience. But he also has the maturity to be an asset to a young team on the road.Lanterne_Rogue said:
I think he's probably got enough experience by now, tbf.mrfpb said:
I don't know, that why I asked the question. It's just the scale of the graph is deceptive. If Cav can't compete over a long series of 100m hills, then I guess he won't enter except maybe for race experience.kingstongraham said:
You think it's a Cavendish race?mrfpb said:
That's a deceptive graphic. The altitude barely goes above 100m.kingstongraham said:There's not a yard of flat for the last 200km of this years worlds.
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Having seen some previous footage (Documentary style) on Cavendish, I know he likes things organised, and prepared.
So am not surprised that not having the kit he expected this morning threw his routine.
Dearly hope he wasn't aiming to target the win on this stage, and that this issue arising won't play on his mind, and effect him for tomorrows stage and onwards.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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Didn't seem particularly bothered about a possible stage win having gone begging when speaking to Bernie Eisel after the stage - seems he appreciated having had a day of (relative) recovery. Seems they thought Alaphilippe had a good chance of taking a win.1
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Just saw the interview now, relieved to see that, seems to be in great form on the attitude front. Surprised Bernie wasn't primed to ask him about the skinsuit.Lanterne_Rogue said:Didn't seem particularly bothered about a possible stage win having gone begging when speaking to Bernie Eisel after the stage - seems he appreciated having had a day of (relative) recovery. Seems they thought Alaphilippe had a good chance of taking a win.
Hopefully back to business tomorrow.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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Re the Kermit the frog skinsuit - he must have quite a few by now in this tour. Surely his team could just wash one!? Or maybe two so he has a spare?
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Commentators were speculating they were in a vehicle on their way to the next hotel, so not available, as they had relied upon the arrival of the skinsuit.bianchi_dave said:Re the Kermit the frog skinsuit - he must have quite a few by now in this tour. Surely his team could just wash one!? Or maybe two so he has a spare?
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How he must be wishing he'd followed Dodgy Jammer's advice.2
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(Love the indirect sass directed at Gaviria)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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The graphic doesn't make much sense though.ddraver said:Me 3...
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As far as I can tell, Morkov and Hodeg haven't raced together this year, and Hodeg certainly hasn't won a race, yet he has a line on the graphic. Jakobsen hasn't got anywhere near a sprint this year either0 -
The wins are the green lines I think. Bit of an odd graphic0
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Yeah it's showing the days Morkow races with on of those sprinters and green when one of the won.0
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If you want to win sprint stages you better get Morkow on your team.MattFalle said:
sorry dude, what does this mean?Pross said:Yeah it's showing the days Morkow races with on of those sprinters and green when one of the won.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
gotcha - graziepblakeney said:.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Knighthood coming up do we reckon? Do you think he needs the 35th and the green jersey? Green jersey seems pretty nailed on, assuming he finishes.
He's an MBE currently.0 -
He needs an Olympic gold.bobmcstuff said:Knighthood coming up do we reckon? Do you think he needs the 35th and the green jersey? Green jersey seems pretty nailed on, assuming he finishes.
He's an MBE currently.0 -
On French TV yesterday he told Voekler this was going to be his last tour, "it's got too ****ing hard" he told viewers.BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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I'm as sarcastic as hell. Just ask my wife. Problem is I don't believe sarcasm translates very in print.webboo said:
Oh my Dennis you folk on the other side of the pond really don’t get it when someone’s being sarcastic.dennisn said:
That's a load of censored . How about you quitting your job so some young kid can take it? Sound good?Pross said:He should swallow his pride and retire for the benefit of the new generation of sprinters that can't get a look in.
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So, Mr. pro race expert. What are your enlightened thoughts on the subject now?Jammiedodgeruk said:I used to be a big fan of Cavs back in the day, but I've got to say he's become a bit of a sad joke these past few years that, for me at least, seems to be undermining everything he's achieved in the sport.
That head down, explosive sprinting power he had has gone and has been for 3 years it seems. Even today watching the Tour of Poland, it seems to be a regular pattern of his to now make it 'look' like he's still in the mix but simply isn't. He's way off, often head butting other riders going past, picking the wrong wheel and basically giving up way early in a sprint where 5 years ago he would have been at the front and popped out for a win with devastating power.
I find it all a bit sad to watch now because in interviews it's like his head hasn't caught up with the realisation that his body just can't do it anymore. He keeps coming out with the same old rhetoric 'I've won 30 stages at the Tour' as if the last stage he won was recent, when in actual fact it was over 3 years ago now. He sounds a bit like the Liverpool supporters of the 90's who lived off their past glories from the 70's, still not quite accepting its over.
With the likes of Griepel admitting his peak was done and moving down a level in terms of team and now Vivianna choosing a lesser team, isn't it about time Cav, who's been around just as long if not longer, does the same? I fear the guy is doing his reputation more harm than good now, which I find a real shame as he should be remembered as a legend rather than someone who held on too long and just makes excuses all the time.0 -
You're late to the party again Dennis. The OP hasn't been seen in nearly 2 years and I know it went above your head but the rest of us have been laughing at their expense since the Tour of Turkey.dennisn said:
So, Mr. pro race expert. What are your enlightened thoughts on the subject now?Jammiedodgeruk said:I used to be a big fan of Cavs back in the day, but I've got to say he's become a bit of a sad joke these past few years that, for me at least, seems to be undermining everything he's achieved in the sport.
That head down, explosive sprinting power he had has gone and has been for 3 years it seems. Even today watching the Tour of Poland, it seems to be a regular pattern of his to now make it 'look' like he's still in the mix but simply isn't. He's way off, often head butting other riders going past, picking the wrong wheel and basically giving up way early in a sprint where 5 years ago he would have been at the front and popped out for a win with devastating power.
I find it all a bit sad to watch now because in interviews it's like his head hasn't caught up with the realisation that his body just can't do it anymore. He keeps coming out with the same old rhetoric 'I've won 30 stages at the Tour' as if the last stage he won was recent, when in actual fact it was over 3 years ago now. He sounds a bit like the Liverpool supporters of the 90's who lived off their past glories from the 70's, still not quite accepting its over.
With the likes of Griepel admitting his peak was done and moving down a level in terms of team and now Vivianna choosing a lesser team, isn't it about time Cav, who's been around just as long if not longer, does the same? I fear the guy is doing his reputation more harm than good now, which I find a real shame as he should be remembered as a legend rather than someone who held on too long and just makes excuses all the time.1
