David Millar

bompington

Alejandrosdog wrote:

A this is a forum on the internet about cycling
B its mostly supposition and opinion

But it is fairly obvious when the supposition and opinion has some logic and evidence behind it, and when it's just tendentious (and tedious) trolling.

sebdangerfield

If you find yourself typing the words "straw man" in an intertnet forum cancel your account immediately.

craigus89

SebDangerfield wrote:

If you find yourself typing the words "straw man" in an intertnet forum cancel your account immediately.

Ey?

imposter2.0

SebDangerfield wrote:

If you find yourself typing the words "straw man" in an intertnet forum cancel your account immediately.

Why? It's a widely-understood and perfectly valid reference towards someone who is misrepresenting someone else's position to meet their own ends. Kind of like what you are doing at the moment...

kingstongraham

SebDangerfield wrote:

If you find yourself typing the words "straw man" in an intertnet forum cancel your account immediately.

I guess that's your last post then?

Alejandrosdog

Back on topic.


I still find Millar unpalatable

For the benefit of those demanding evidence, please refer to his comments and behaviour following his arrest, subsequent innocence plees , later ban, subsequent books and self created deification .

Plus affected cool style.

carbonclem

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Back on topic.


I still find Millar unpalatable

For the benefit of those demanding evidence, please refer to his comments and behaviour following his arrest, subsequent innocence plees , later ban, subsequent books and self created deification .

Plus affected cool style.

Does his success make you feel a bit inadequate?

Matthewfalle

CarbonClem wrote:

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Back on topic.


I still find Millar unpalatable

For the benefit of those demanding evidence, please refer to his comments and behaviour following his arrest, subsequent innocence plees , later ban, subsequent books and self created deification .

Plus affected cool style.

Does his success make you feel a bit inadequate?

any success he may have had is instantly outweighed by the fact he is a liar, a doper, a cheat and a coward.

#liar
#doper
#cheat
#coward

carbonclem

Matthewfalle wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Back on topic.


I still find Millar unpalatable

For the benefit of those demanding evidence, please refer to his comments and behaviour following his arrest, subsequent innocence plees , later ban, subsequent books and self created deification .

Plus affected cool style.

Does his success make you feel a bit inadequate?

any success he may have had is instantly outweighed by the fact he is a liar, a doper, a cheat and a coward.

#liar
#doper
#cheat
#coward

Not really

Bit weird that grown men are obsessively posting on the internet about it though?

Matthewfalle

yes really

#doper

Alejandrosdog

CarbonClem wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Back on topic.


I still find Millar unpalatable

For the benefit of those demanding evidence, please refer to his comments and behaviour following his arrest, subsequent innocence plees , later ban, subsequent books and self created deification .

Plus affected cool style.

Does his success make you feel a bit inadequate?

any success he may have had is instantly outweighed by the fact he is a liar, a doper, a cheat and a coward.

#liar
#doper
#cheat
#coward

Not really

Bit weird that grown men are obsessively posting on the internet about it though?

Well it depends on your moral compass as to wether criminal activity for sporting and financial gain is acceptable.

surfercyclist

Well it depends on your moral compass as to wether criminal activity for sporting and financial gain is acceptable.

Yeah I mentioned this but apparently objecting to cheating marks you out as a sanctimonious hypocrite. :roll:

Matthewfalle

Alejandrosdog wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Back on topic.


I still find Millar unpalatable

For the benefit of those demanding evidence, please refer to his comments and behaviour following his arrest, subsequent innocence plees , later ban, subsequent books and self created deification .

Plus affected cool style.

Does his success make you feel a bit inadequate?

any success he may have had is instantly outweighed by the fact he is a liar, a doper, a cheat and a coward.

#liar
#doper
#cheat
#coward

Not really

Bit weird that grown men are obsessively posting on the internet about it though?

Well it depends on your moral compass as to wether criminal activity for sporting and financial gain is acceptable.

and Millar cheated to further both causes.

#cheat
#liar
#doper
#lackofcojones

tootsie323

I was caught speeding a couple of years ago and sent on a driver awareness course.
Since then I've been more conscious about driving safely and have even preached this on occasion.
Based on the bulk of this thread, that must make me a hypocrite and a coward.

sandyballs

tootsie323 wrote:

I was caught speeding a couple of years ago and sent on a driver awareness course.
Since then I've been more conscious about driving safely and have even preached this on occasion.
Based on the bulk of this thread, that must make me a hypocrite and a coward.

Did you speed for professional, contractual or financial gain?

Did your speeding adversely affect those that were not speeding and deny them professional and financial gain, including triumph and personal satisfaction in winning?

Did you deny speeding or use a defence of “well everyone is doing it” until beyond doubt you were convicted?

Have you subsequently laid the blame on others and wrote prose on how you were a victim?

If yes to any of the above then yes, you are indeed a hypocrite and a coward, if not the the 2 are not comparable.

Alejandrosdog

tootsie323 wrote:

I was caught speeding a couple of years ago and sent on a driver awareness course.
Since then I've been more conscious about driving safely and have even preached this on occasion.
Based on the bulk of this thread, that must make me a hypocrite and a coward.

theres Nothing like equivalence is there. I used to pick my nose at the table and got told off for it. Later I told my kids off. I’m as bad as a rapist that has become a women’s rights advocate.

Matthewfalle

tootsie323 wrote:

I was caught speeding a couple of years ago and sent on a driver awareness course.
Since then I've been more conscious about driving safely and have even preached this on occasion.
Based on the bulk of this thread, that must make me a hypocrite and a coward.

did you take illegal drugs to aid ypur speeding?

did you pay people to supply you with illegal drugs?

did you steal other people's hard work when you took drugs to speed?

did you at first lie really badly about your speeding then cry because you didn't have the cojones to own up to your speeding?

did you preach on and on and on and on about how bad your speeding was after ypu wete busted?


#doper
#cheat
#liar
#coward
#lackofcojones

Alejandrosdog

he might have kept illegal drugs in his glove box but only to remind himself never to speed or take illegal drugs.

he might have broken down and cried in the back of the police car when he got caught

his sister might be in pr

tootsie323

I didn't speed for gain. I didn't deny it, or seek to lay the blame elsewhere. I didn't pay anyone to speed.
I didn't even get as far as a police car, let alone cry in the back of it.
My sister is not in PR.
But I do keep my tongue firmly in my cheek.

Matthewfalle

tootsie323 wrote:

I didn't even get as far as a police car, let alone cry in the back of it.

well thats not properspeeding is it?

#doesn'tcount

pblakeney

Matthewfalle wrote:

tootsie323 wrote:

I didn't even get as far as a police car, let alone cry in the back of it.

well thats not properspeeding is it?

#doesn'tcount

Stealth mode at night under clear skies and a full moon with the lights off.
Rumour has it that it's been done.

Alejandrosdog

PBlakeney wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

tootsie323 wrote:

I didn't even get as far as a police car, let alone cry in the back of it.

well thats not properspeeding is it?

#doesn'tcount

Stealth mode at night under clear skies and a full moon with the lights off.
Rumour has it that it's been done.

Everyone else does it too

Matthewfalle

PBlakeney wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

tootsie323 wrote:

I didn't even get as far as a police car, let alone cry in the back of it.

well thats not properspeeding is it?

#doesn'tcount

Stealth mode at night under clear skies and a full moon with the lights off.
Rumour has it that it's been done.

no need for that rubbish.

just take your number plate off. its only held on with velcro anyway.

black leathers, black helmet, look like everyone else.

#proper

pblakeney

Matthewfalle wrote:

no need for that rubbish.

just take your number plate off. its only held on with velcro anyway.

black leathers, black helmet, look like everyone else.

#proper

Strange look in a Nissan Micra though.
#whatyouwearattheweekend

Matthewfalle

PBlakeney wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

no need for that rubbish.

just take your number plate off. its only held on with velcro anyway.

black leathers, black helmet, look like everyone else.

#proper

Strange look in a Nissan Micra though.
#whatyouwearattheweekend

#safetyfirst

Alejandrosdog

Matthewfalle wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

no need for that rubbish.

just take your number plate off. its only held on with velcro anyway.

black leathers, black helmet, look like everyone else.

#proper

Strange look in a Nissan Micra though.
#whatyouwearattheweekend

#safetyfirst

I think id go down the stig route. According to the bbc the police are more likey to pull you over if youre black.

bompington

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

no need for that rubbish.

just take your number plate off. its only held on with velcro anyway.

black leathers, black helmet, look like everyone else.

#proper

Strange look in a Nissan Micra though.
#whatyouwearattheweekend

#safetyfirst

I think id go down the stig route. According to the bbc the police are more likey to pull you over if youre black.

Alejandrosdog

bompington wrote:

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

no need for that rubbish.

just take your number plate off. its only held on with velcro anyway.

black leathers, black helmet, look like everyone else.

#proper

Strange look in a Nissan Micra though.
#whatyouwearattheweekend

#safetyfirst

I think id go down the stig route. According to the bbc the police are more likey to pull you over if youre black.

He looks like hes nicked that.

kingstongraham

What's going on with the tartan patterned 10 denier tights?

Matthewfalle

Alejandrosdog wrote:

bompington wrote:

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

no need for that rubbish.

just take your number plate off. its only held on with velcro anyway.

black leathers, black helmet, look like everyone else.

#proper

Strange look in a Nissan Micra though.
#whatyouwearattheweekend

#safetyfirst

I think id go down the stig route. According to the bbc the police are more likey to pull you over if youre black.

He looks like hes nicked that.

nah. he looks like a square.

he also looks like someone who cheated, doped, lied, cried, grassed, cheated lied and doped as well.

and couldn't do any of it properly.

#lackofcojones