David Millar

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  • surfercyclist
    surfercyclist Posts: 894
    Anyway - back on topic - Millar is Scottish - aren't they all on drugs up there?

    Do deep fried Mars bars count? :lol:
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    SurferCyclist wrote:
    Anyway - back on topic - Millar is Scottish - aren't they all on drugs up there?

    Do deep fried Mars bars count? :lol:

    no, but fish do - they use their fingers
    www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,352
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?

    what has that got to do with anything?

    #confused

    Easy formula:

    Cheat + Foreign = lifelong stain on character, no way back, boos all the way
    Cheat + British = say sorry and everyone cheers you, you get a job with the national governing body, a nice gig on TV, and launch your own clothing range. See also Linford Christie.
    Nah. Pretty much every cyclist (with the notable exceptions) was on something or other up until recently. It's just glossed over. Belge pot anyone?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    PBlakeney wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?

    what has that got to do with anything?

    #confused

    Easy formula:

    Cheat + Foreign = lifelong stain on character, no way back, boos all the way
    Cheat + British = say sorry and everyone cheers you, you get a job with the national governing body, a nice gig on TV, and launch your own clothing range. See also Linford Christie.
    Nah. Pretty much every cyclist (with the notable exceptions) was on something or other up until recently. It's just glossed over. Belge pot anyone?


    errr - no - its glossed over n the eyes of the British clubbie if the cheating lying doper is British.

    Vino: slaaaaaaaag. hang him
    Dopestrong: slaaaaaaaag hang him
    Millar: oh he's British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! go Davey!
    Yates: oh, he' nearly British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! Go Sean Team Sky!
    Max Sciandri: oh, he's British. All good, nothing to see. Go Max!

    #hypocrites
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Matthewfalle wrote:


    errr - no - its glossed over n the eyes of the British clubbie if the cheating lying doper is British.

    Vino: slaaaaaaaag. hang him
    Dopestrong: slaaaaaaaag hang him
    Millar: oh he's British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! go Davey!
    Yates: oh, he' nearly British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! Go Sean Team Sky!
    Max Sciandri: oh, he's British. All good, nothing to see. Go Max!

    #hypocrites

    Has anybody actually ever said this or are you making it up?
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Imposter wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:


    errr - no - its glossed over n the eyes of the British clubbie if the cheating lying doper is British.

    Vino: slaaaaaaaag. hang him
    Dopestrong: slaaaaaaaag hang him
    Millar: oh he's British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! go Davey!
    Yates: oh, he' nearly British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! Go Sean Team Sky!
    Max Sciandri: oh, he's British. All good, nothing to see. Go Max!

    #hypocrites

    Has anybody actually ever said this or are you making it up?

    yes they have and no i'm not.

    #apologist
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:


    errr - no - its glossed over n the eyes of the British clubbie if the cheating lying doper is British.

    Vino: slaaaaaaaag. hang him
    Dopestrong: slaaaaaaaag hang him
    Millar: oh he's British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! go Davey!
    Yates: oh, he' nearly British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! Go Sean Team Sky!
    Max Sciandri: oh, he's British. All good, nothing to see. Go Max!

    #hypocrites

    Has anybody actually ever said this or are you making it up?

    yes they have and no i'm not.

    #apologist

    Well, all you have to do to prove it is provide some evidence...
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,352
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?

    what has that got to do with anything?

    #confused

    Easy formula:

    Cheat + Foreign = lifelong stain on character, no way back, boos all the way
    Cheat + British = say sorry and everyone cheers you, you get a job with the national governing body, a nice gig on TV, and launch your own clothing range. See also Linford Christie.
    Nah. Pretty much every cyclist (with the notable exceptions) was on something or other up until recently. It's just glossed over. Belge pot anyone?


    errr - no - its glossed over n the eyes of the British clubbie if the cheating lying doper is British.

    Vino: slaaaaaaaag. hang him
    Dopestrong: slaaaaaaaag hang him
    Millar: oh he's British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! go Davey!
    Yates: oh, he' nearly British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! Go Sean Team Sky!
    Max Sciandri: oh, he's British. All good, nothing to see. Go Max!

    #hypocrites
    Very nearly my point.
    Everyone is glossed over. Except the bully Armstrong, for non doping reasons.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,174
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?

    what has that got to do with anything?

    #confused

    Easy formula:

    Cheat + Foreign = lifelong stain on character, no way back, boos all the way
    Cheat + British = say sorry and everyone cheers you, you get a job with the national governing body, a nice gig on TV, and launch your own clothing range. See also Linford Christie.
    Nah. Pretty much every cyclist (with the notable exceptions) was on something or other up until recently. It's just glossed over. Belge pot anyone?


    errr - no - its glossed over n the eyes of the British clubbie if the cheating lying doper is British.

    Vino: slaaaaaaaag. hang him
    Dopestrong: slaaaaaaaag hang him
    Millar: oh he's British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! go Davey!
    Yates: oh, he' nearly British. All good, nothing to see. Yay! Go Sean Team Sky!
    Max Sciandri: oh, he's British. All good, nothing to see. Go Max!

    #hypocrites
    Very nearly my point.
    Everyone is glossed over. Except the bully Armstrong, for non doping reasons.

    Valverde, Vinokourov, Pantani, Contador. How we enjoyed the beef being waved at him.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?


    still waiting for an answer from KG as to why this matters

    #confused
    #stillwaiting
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?


    still waiting for an answer from KG as to why this matters

    #confused
    #stillwaiting

    I'm still waiting for some of the evidence I asked you for earlier...
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,352
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Valverde, Vinokourov, Pantani, Contador. How we enjoyed the beef being waved at him.
    For some maybe by the looks of it but not the majority from what I’ve seen. Pantani in particular.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,174
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?


    still waiting for an answer from KG as to why this matters

    #confused
    #stillwaiting

    #asktheotherMF
    #yourespondedearlierdontyouremember
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,174
    PBlakeney wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Valverde, Vinokourov, Pantani, Contador. How we enjoyed the beef being waved at him.
    For some maybe by the looks of it but not the majority from what I’ve seen. Pantani in particular.

    In the UK, he's a tragic figure. In Italy, he's a hero.

    #perspective
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,352
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Valverde, Vinokourov, Pantani, Contador. How we enjoyed the beef being waved at him.
    For some maybe by the looks of it but not the majority from what I’ve seen. Pantani in particular.

    In the UK, he's a tragic figure. In Italy, he's a hero.

    #perspective
    More reasons for glossing over.
    #thepoint
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Despising Millar more than other former drug cheats just because he actually campaigned against doping after getting caught and serving the punishment is not logical. It's very emotional, personal opinion. Please do not push it as anything else or it gets sanctimonious.

    And comparing him with Lance 'would do it again' Armstrong is completely off the rocker.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?


    still waiting for an answer from KG as to why this matters

    #confused
    #stillwaiting

    #asktheotherMF
    #yourespondedearlierdontyouremember

    i can't. he's fallen asleep in hs dinner.

    but if you are agreeing with the fact that we should ignore the fact he is a lying cheat and that everything he lied and cheated about is ok now because he's british and not a johnny foreigner and thats its not hypocritical at all oh no then thats cool - grazie.

    #inagreement
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Imposter wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?


    still waiting for an answer from KG as to why this matters

    #confused
    #stillwaiting

    I'm still waiting for some of the evidence I asked you for earlier...

    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    I’m not a vet but I recognise a horse when I see one. Nor do I record a copy of every time I see one but that doesn’t mean I’ve never seen one.
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    mamil314 wrote:
    Despising Millar more than other former drug cheats just because he actually campaigned against doping after getting caught and serving the punishment is not logical. It's very emotional, personal opinion. Please do not push it as anything else or it gets sanctimonious.

    And comparing him with Lance 'would do it again' Armstrong is completely off the rocker.

    I don’t like him for the bullshit way he’s gone about things since he got busted. No balls.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    You do know he's British?


    still waiting for an answer from KG as to why this matters

    #confused
    #stillwaiting

    I'm still waiting for some of the evidence I asked you for earlier...

    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    I’m not a vet but I recognise a horse when I see one. Nor do I record a copy of every time I see one but that doesn’t mean I’ve never seen one.

    #sleuthing
    #evidence!ineedevidence!
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    mamil314 wrote:
    Despising Millar more than other former drug cheats just because he actually campaigned against doping after getting caught and serving the punishment is not logical. It's very emotional, personal opinion. Please do not push it as anything else or it gets sanctimonious.

    And comparing him with Lance 'would do it again' Armstrong is completely off the rocker.

    I don’t like him for the bullshit way he’s gone about things since he got busted. No balls.


    this.

    its the sanctomious preaching hypocritical way his pr people have instructed him to try and turn his situation around by getting him to all contrtite.

    he took drugs
    he cheated and lied
    he got caught
    he then tried to lie again and failed, dismally

    not even enough cojones to stand up for himself

    #doper
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    What is it about evidence that you don't like..? I find it quite a useful tool for weeding out the irrational bullshitters from what should be a reasonable discussion, so in that sense you're kind of answering your own question...
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    What is it about evidence that you don't like..? I find it quite a useful tool for weeding out the irrational bullshitters from what should be a reasonable discussion, so in that sense you're kind of answering your own question...

    What evidence can you provide that you're capable of competently assessing evidence? Or are you just looking for things to reinforce your ideas? Or dispense with opinions that contradict yours?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    What is it about evidence that you don't like..? I find it quite a useful tool for weeding out the irrational bullshitters from what should be a reasonable discussion, so in that sense you're kind of answering your own question...

    What evidence can you provide that you're capable of competently assessing evidence? Or are you just looking for things to reinforce your ideas? Or dispense with opinions that contradict yours?

    Probably the best non-sequitur anyone will ever read on here. Which kind of confirms your status in the 'irrational bullshitter' category, because if you can't offer any proof or evidence then that's really all you've got..
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    What is it about evidence that you don't like..? I find it quite a useful tool for weeding out the irrational bullshitters from what should be a reasonable discussion, so in that sense you're kind of answering your own question...

    What evidence can you provide that you're capable of competently assessing evidence? Or are you just looking for things to reinforce your ideas? Or dispense with opinions that contradict yours?

    Probably the best non-sequitur anyone will ever read on here. Which kind of confirms your status in the 'irrational bullshitter' category, because if you can't offer any proof or evidence then that's really all you've got..

    So by your own standards you’re an irrational bullshitter! Wow quite an admission imposter.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    What is it about evidence that you don't like..? I find it quite a useful tool for weeding out the irrational bullshitters from what should be a reasonable discussion, so in that sense you're kind of answering your own question...

    What evidence can you provide that you're capable of competently assessing evidence? Or are you just looking for things to reinforce your ideas? Or dispense with opinions that contradict yours?

    Probably the best non-sequitur anyone will ever read on here. Which kind of confirms your status in the 'irrational bullshitter' category, because if you can't offer any proof or evidence then that's really all you've got..

    So by your own standards you’re an irrational bullshitter! Wow quite an admission imposter.

    Non-sequitur followed by a straw man - well done. All you need to do now is start using hashtags and your status as an internet shill will be complete...
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    What is it with you and evidence these days. Most dull like you’ve been on a local authority jobsworth “brushing off complaints “ course.

    What is it about evidence that you don't like..? I find it quite a useful tool for weeding out the irrational bullshitters from what should be a reasonable discussion, so in that sense you're kind of answering your own question...

    What evidence can you provide that you're capable of competently assessing evidence? Or are you just looking for things to reinforce your ideas? Or dispense with opinions that contradict yours?

    Probably the best non-sequitur anyone will ever read on here. Which kind of confirms your status in the 'irrational bullshitter' category, because if you can't offer any proof or evidence then that's really all you've got..

    So by your own standards you’re an irrational bullshitter! Wow quite an admission imposter.

    Non-sequitur followed by a straw man - well done. All you need to do now is start using hashtags and your status as an internet shill will be complete...

    You’re still avoiding it and attempting deflection
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    You’re still avoiding it and attempting deflection

    If you say so. I would say the same about you. As to who is right, other people can read the thread and make up their own minds...
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Imposter wrote:
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    You’re still avoiding it and attempting deflection

    If you say so. I would say the same about you. As to who is right, other people can read the thread and make up their own minds...

    youre forgetting that

    A this is a forum on the internet about cycling
    B its mostly supposition and opinion
    C ultimately if this is really important to your estimation of self worth you should stop and seek help / ride your bike if you have one

    #getoveryourself
    #getalife
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited August 2019
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    C ultimately if this is really important to your estimation of self worth you should stop and seek help / ride your bike if you have one

    #getoveryourself
    #getalife

    I simply asked someone (not even you) to back up their claims with some evidence. But you decided you simply had to get involved yourself.

    Maybe it's you who needs to get over yourself and/or get a life and/or ride your bike if you have one.

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