TDF 2019, Stage 17: Pont du Gard > Gap 24/07/2019 - Stage 17 - 200 km *Spoilers*

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  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Hmmmmm seems harsh
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    FocusZing wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Not ideal for either team ahead of the alps.

    Yeah, not good for team morale either.

    Hmmm dunno, could spur Ineos on.

    I know who would win in a fight between Rowe and Martin.
    Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them.

    Voltaire
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Gweeds wrote:
    Handy for the French hopefuls though eh?....

    My first thought, two biggest riders to cause issues for the French contenders on the flat eliminated for a very minor incident.
  • hypster
    hypster Posts: 1,229
    The UCI certainly know how to put a downer on an otherwise brilliant Tour.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    https://twitter.com/JumboVismaRoad/stat ... 6128309248

    Rowe and Martin respond together.

    Looks like both teams are appealing.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Flaming Nora, I've watched all the footage and the interviews and what?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    Anyone know of the last time an appeal to the UCI/ASO was successful?
    Not holding out any real hope that these two will be racing tomorrow.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Ridiculous decision.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Trentin, classy rider innit?
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  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    "We shook hands and said tomorrow we go again".

    That really should have been the end of it right there, what an utterly ridiculous decision. I really hope the appeal is successful, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
  • richard_t._biscuit
    richard_t._biscuit Posts: 246
    lettingthedaysgoby wrote:
    "We shook hands and said tomorrow we go again".
    ...
    The problem is it's cycling, not boxing :)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Avondetappe gives the context with LtD and his says it as follows...

    Basically luke goes for a gap on the far left because Tony leaves a very small gap which, says LtD, you wouldn’t normally go for, (“but then I’m not a boisterous classics specialist and he’s used to doing that”) and then the afters were unnecessary.

    They did spot Rowe taking his hands off the bars and pushing Martin after Martin swerved him into the barrier.

    Just fine then and be done with it. Throwing out is nuts - didn’t Lopez punch a spectator in the Giro with no comeback?!
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Avondetappe gives the context with LtD and his says it as follows...

    Basically luke goes for a gap on the far left because Tony leaves a very small gap which, says LtD, you wouldn’t normally go for, (“but then I’m not a boisterous classics specialist and he’s used to doing that”) and then the afters were unnecessary.

    They did spot Rowe taking his hands off the bars and pushing Martin after Martin swerved him into the barrier.

    Just fine then and be done with it. Throwing out is nuts - didn’t Lopez punch a spectator in the Giro with no comeback?!

    No mention of Geraint Thomas being taken out of the line by George Bennett, first?
    I'm shocked. :roll:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Avondetappe gives the context with LtD and his says it as follows...

    Basically luke goes for a gap on the far left because Tony leaves a very small gap which, says LtD, you wouldn’t normally go for, (“but then I’m not a boisterous classics specialist and he’s used to doing that”) and then the afters were unnecessary.

    They did spot Rowe taking his hands off the bars and pushing Martin after Martin swerved him into the barrier.

    Just fine then and be done with it. Throwing out is nuts - didn’t Lopez punch a spectator in the Giro with no comeback?!

    No mention of Geraint Thomas being taken out of the line by George Bennett, first?
    I'm shocked. :roll:

    Ha classic!!!
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited July 2019
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Avondetappe gives the context with LtD and his says it as follows...

    Basically luke goes for a gap on the far left because Tony leaves a very small gap which, says LtD, you wouldn’t normally go for, (“but then I’m not a boisterous classics specialist and he’s used to doing that”) and then the afters were unnecessary.

    They did spot Rowe taking his hands off the bars and pushing Martin after Martin swerved him into the barrier.

    Just fine then and be done with it. Throwing out is nuts - didn’t Lopez punch a spectator in the Giro with no comeback?!

    No mention of Geraint Thomas being taken out of the line by George Bennett, first?
    I'm shocked. :roll:

    Ha classic!!!

    I've been watching Vive le Velo's take, it's the same as Avondetappe.
    BUT. They have edited out the crucial couple of seconds before showing Thomas getting blocked out. :lol:
    Hard to miss with those sunglasses.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    F@cking idiots. Outrageous decision. That stuff is going on all day every day. Asgreen got away with a fine and warning for something similar just a few days ago. Half the peloton should probably be out if that's a DQS offence.
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  • Wayne Plunger
    Wayne Plunger Posts: 444
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    F@cking idiots. Outrageous decision. That stuff is going on all day every day. Asgreen got away with a fine and warning for something similar just a few days ago. Half the peloton should probably be out if that's a DQS offence.

    That Asgreen bloke went down in my estimation a great deal today, sat on the break all day and quell suprise he had the energy at the end to try and catch Trentin.

    Glad he couldn't get there.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Wayne Plunger wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    F@cking idiots. Outrageous decision. That stuff is going on all day every day. Asgreen got away with a fine and warning for something similar just a few days ago. Half the peloton should probably be out if that's a DQS offence.

    That Asgreen bloke went down in my estimation a great deal today, sat on the break all day and quell suprise he had the energy at the end to try and catch Trentin.

    Glad he couldn't get there.

    Why should he have worked?

    His team has yellow?!
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Seems like a load of fuss over nothing to me.

    Surprised it's a DQ.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    F@cking idiots. Outrageous decision. That stuff is going on all day every day. Asgreen got away with a fine and warning for something similar just a few days ago. Half the peloton should probably be out if that's a DQS offence.

    Oh they gave them the fine as well. (€1000 each) Just to be consistent. :wink:

    Vive le Velo made a joke about the jury getting a back hander from DQS. :)
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    F@cking idiots. Outrageous decision. That stuff is going on all day every day. Asgreen got away with a fine and warning for something similar just a few days ago. Half the peloton should probably be out if that's a DQS offence.
    What Martin did may not be uncommon and he might have got away with a fine without Rowe's reaction. Rugby style hand-offs to the face I'd suggest are somewhat more unusual.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Inner Ring's take similar to mine.

    https://twitter.com/inrng/status/115409 ... 06913?s=19
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Inner Ring's take similar to mine.

    https://twitter.com/inrng/status/115409 ... 06913?s=19

    I say old bean we’re all jolly tired, on the edge and all that but would you mind awfully moving over so my man can have the best position? There’s a good chap.

    Or.... a bit of argy bargy by young male competitors in a high tension battle for position on the road.

    Too harsh hmmm. I’ve been thinking and now think Rowe deserves to get binned if he punched Tony. Tony fine for putting Rowe into the barriers.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Alejandrosdog wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Inner Ring's take similar to mine.

    https://twitter.com/inrng/status/115409 ... 06913?s=19

    I say old bean we’re all jolly tired, on the edge and all that but would you mind awfully moving over so my man can have the best position? There’s a good chap.

    Or.... a bit of argy bargy by young male competitors in a high tension battle for position on the road.

    Too harsh hmmm. I’ve been thinking and now think Rowe deserves to get binned if he punched Tony. Tony fine for putting Rowe into the barriers.
    Don't disagree with any of that. It's purely Rowe's hand in Martin's face that elevates it.
  • moonshine
    moonshine Posts: 1,021
    Alex Dowset on twitter
    "Tony and Luke should’ve really joint won the “most combatitive rider” for yesterday."

    https://twitter.com/alexdowsett/status/ ... 0991004672
    :lol:
  • surfercyclist
    surfercyclist Posts: 894
    Farcial, if a French rider had been involved no ban. Utter bias as per. Bit like no doping talk(not that I'm saying anyone is but undoubtedly if an INEOS rider was in yellow we'd be hearing lots of accusations).
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,576
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    It feels like an overreaction to me. The riders dealt with it on the road. This just magnifies it more than it needs to be.
    A hand to the face is always going to be a DQ these days.

    Unless you are punching a fan, a la Superman Lopez at the Giro.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    SurferCyclist wrote:
    Farcial, if a French rider had been involved no ban. Utter bias as per. Bit like no doping talk(not that I'm saying anyone is but undoubtedly if an INEOS rider was in yellow we'd be hearing lots of accusations).

    Bias from whom?

    The Italian led UCI race jury?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    DeadCalm wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    F@cking idiots. Outrageous decision. That stuff is going on all day every day. Asgreen got away with a fine and warning for something similar just a few days ago. Half the peloton should probably be out if that's a DQS offence.
    What Martin did may not be uncommon and he might have got away with a fine without Rowe's reaction. Rugby style hand-offs to the face I'd suggest are somewhat more unusual.

    He's a Cardiff boy. Hand-off's are not exactly uncommon in Cardiff. :P

    Still, he'll have learned a valuable lesson from this: When attempting to move an opponent, don't use a hand, use a bike, as it's both more commonplace and effective.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    iainf72 wrote:
    SurferCyclist wrote:
    Farcial, if a French rider had been involved no ban. Utter bias as per. Bit like no doping talk(not that I'm saying anyone is but undoubtedly if an INEOS rider was in yellow we'd be hearing lots of accusations).

    Bias from whom?

    The Italian led UCI race jury?

    You mean they should have hitched a ride with the team car to get in front? :wink:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.

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