TDF 2019, Stage 14: Tarbes > Tourmalet Barèges 20/07/2019 - 117,5 km *Spoilers*

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,576
    edited July 2019
    FocusZing wrote:
    Hincapie was saying that some of the other teams could assist Quick Setup against a dominant Ineos, with large a budget. I thought this was and interesting angle for the coming week, depending on who's left in the GC fight.

    Not the old 'the other teams can unite against a common enemy' chestnut. As my old boss used to say, give me three examples of this and I'll believe it to be possible.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    andyp wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Hincapie was saying that some of the other teams could assist Quick Setup against a dominant Ineos, with large a budget. I thought this was and interesting angle for the coming week, depending on who's left in the GC fight.

    Not the old 'the other teams can unite against a common enemy' chestnut. As old boss used to say, give me three examples of this and I'll believe it to be possible.

    I dont think madiot is thinking french combine right now
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  • dabber
    dabber Posts: 1,982
    It won't happen but... I'd like to see all the domestiques out of the picture by around the time they get to Bareges (or maybe a a little after) and the likes of GT, JA, TP etc end up going head to head.
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  • hypster
    hypster Posts: 1,229
    This looks like a short, punchy stage which should suit Alaphilippe.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    hypster wrote:
    This looks like a short, punchy stage which should suit Alaphilippe.

    The Tourmalet is really really long.
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    hypster wrote:
    This looks like a short, punchy stage which should suit Alaphilippe.

    The Tourmalet is really really long.

    its longer than that
  • hypster
    hypster Posts: 1,229
    hypster wrote:
    This looks like a short, punchy stage which should suit Alaphilippe.

    The Tourmalet is really really long.

    Not long enough to stop Alaphilippe. He's in yellow and can do anything apparently.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    hypster wrote:
    hypster wrote:
    This looks like a short, punchy stage which should suit Alaphilippe.

    The Tourmalet is really really long.

    Not long enough to stop Alaphilippe. He's in yellow and can do anything apparently.
    If he smashes it up the Tourmalet and puts two minutes into everyone you might have a point.
  • hypster
    hypster Posts: 1,229
    If he's still in yellow by the next rest day I think my point will be made.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,066
    I rarely watch pro races, so I doubt I'm the first to write this...

    Do any of you with smart turbos get crazy ideas on stages like this to either ride the same big climb or something similar while watching the stage?

    As much as I should get outdoors for a ride soon before this stage starts plus it looks like it now might be dry around Old Winchester and Butser Hills, for the first time since getting my Direto ~19 months ago, a silly part of me is thinking about riding the Mont ventoux climb https://www.strava.com/segments/17891747 on the currently free https://www.rgtcycling.com/ turbo app when this stage approaches the start of the Tourmalet to get a rough feel for just how awesome the pros are compared to middle aged me.

    At best, I'd love to see Alaphillipe pull away from the other GC contenders on the final ramp, or at worst hold on to the back wheel of G to the stage finish, letting Bernal go if he decides to storm off ahead.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Hadn't realised how short the stage is until I just checked what time coverage starts.

    Bernal could come into play today either to mark any of the fringe GC riders going long or to go early himself to put pressure on others but I suspect that in reality he will be Thomas' right hand man unless Thomas cracks.

    I'm loving the idea of teams combining to help those plucky underdogs DQS against money bags, dominant Ineos. It would be nice if they got to win something for a change.
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    I rarely watch pro races, so I doubt I'm the first to write this...

    Do any of you with smart turbos get crazy ideas on stages like this to either ride the same big climb or something similar while watching the stage?

    As much as I should get outdoors for a ride soon before this stage starts plus it looks like it now might be dry around Old Winchester and Butser Hills, for the first time since getting my Direto ~19 months ago, a silly part of me is thinking about riding the Mont ventoux climb https://www.strava.com/segments/17891747 on the currently free https://www.rgtcycling.com/ turbo app when this stage approaches the start of the Tourmalet to get a rough feel for just how awesome the pros are compared to middle aged me.

    At best, I'd love to see Alaphillipe pull away from the other GC contenders on the final ramp, or at worst hold on to the back wheel of G to the stage finish, letting Bernal go if he decides to storm off ahead.

    I frequently ride along, Kills two birds with one stone. I dont have a smart trainer but do use the RGT app. The stelvio is my prefered pain zone, with chemical brothers or similar to help .

    Watching the race and riding along en turbo if i dont have a specificly structured session can take the place of a group ride by riding at tempo in the break, z2/3/ and harder when its lined out and fracturing. I sprint for the win and intermediates. Adds i knock it off for recovery and to make sure i drink. That way i can endure over two hours of turbo and still meet my parental presence responsibilities.

    My garage stinks as a result
  • gethinceri
    gethinceri Posts: 1,677
    +1 for RGT Stelvio.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Depart Reel delayed due to a protest apparently. Those Frenchies will do anything to keep Alan Phillip in yellow!
  • Depart Reel delayed due to a protest apparently. Those Frenchies will do anything to keep Alan Phillip in yellow!

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Quintana sitting there looking like a meerkat.

    Meerkat-sentry2-Dan-Boyd.jpg
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Alexis Vuillermoz once overtook me on the Mont du Chat.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Saga and the Shark....
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    The terrible two are gapping the lot.
    At least De Gendt suffering badly after yesterday's effort.......
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Remember when Nibbles and Sagan were team mates and someone did a parody of Sagan on Twitter where Nibz was Mr Spaghetti Nibbles...

    Good times.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    alaphillipe looking a bit stiff?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Depart Reel delayed due to a protest apparently. Those Frenchies will do anything to keep Alan Phillip in yellow!

    That explains it, I turned the TV on as they rolled out went and did some housework then came back 25 minutes later to see they were still in the neutralised zone. Thought it was quite a long roll out!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    alaphillipe looking a bit stiff?

    Funny place to swan about. Maybe he's marking Bernal, who is also back there?

    Groupama put a TGV man infront of the DQS slow train.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Alaphilippe either still in the same GC position or goes for it and takes more time, I can't see him losing time today even after yesterdays performance.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Not impressed by the President's security there as a bunch of seemingly non-accredited members of the public get up close!
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Another good looking stage, another day travelling... How do I cøck this up so badly?
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Another good looking stage, another day travelling... How do I cøck this up so badly?

    Le cøck sportif.
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    I don't think I'd be swimming in that lake...

    9b923.jpg

    Fish!

    I mean Shark!
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    :D:D
    Correlation is not causation.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    since the plank i have had this on off feeling Ineos have it in the bag only to be surprised.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm