Giro 2019, Stage 16: Lovere - Ponte di Legno 194 km *Spoilers*

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    Ironically, if Hirt has been given carte blanche, it may just play into Ciccone's hand.
    Cicconi might just be bluffing.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Roglic going to be 30 seconds behind Nibali on GC. Momentum is against him, but what can he gain in the TT?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    *grumble* You have to give Eurosport some credit, there are now basically no free streams worth watching... *grumble*
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Ciccone takes it..
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    F**k You and your wheelsucking Astana

    Love it when that happens
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Masnada's rain jacket is baggier than mine... Androni don't have great kit eh?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Nibali is such a whiny git - what was he whingeing at Carthy for there?
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Nibs pips Carthy to third, not-so-superman lost some time...
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    ddraver wrote:
    *grumble* You have to give Eurosport some credit, there are now basically no free streams worth watching... *grumble*
    Tz- cycling
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Roglic down 1.23 on Nibs
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Roglic loses 1:22 I think (plus bonus seconds)
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Roglic loses 1:20 could have been worse
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    mididoctors wrote:
    Roglic loses 1:20 could have been worse

    Doesn't look like he has the legs to destroy everyone in Verona however.
    _
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    I think it's the weather, but I'm just not feeling this Giro.
    Awful again tomorrow.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    edited May 2019
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    Roglic loses 1:20 could have been worse

    Doesn't look like he has the legs to destroy everyone in Verona however.

    Still another mountains stage to come before then so suspect he might lose a bit more time yet, which is good as he's done absolutely nothing since the time trial. Wheel sucked the whole way.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    I think it's the weather, but I'm just not feeling this Giro.
    Awful again tomorrow.

    Bad weather in the mountains is what you want, no?

    As long as it doesn't break the picture up too much.
    _
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    A quick GC estimate

    Carapaz -
    Nibali 1.47
    Roglic 2.10
    Landa 3.15
    Moillema 5.01
    Majka 5.40
    Lopez 6.17
    Yates 6.47
    Sivakov 7.48
    Zakarin 10.02

    Edit: Polanc stiil in 10th - I didn't spot him
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  • joe2008
    joe2008 Posts: 1,531
    Ciccone looked to be on 30mm rims
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    I think it's the weather, but I'm just not feeling this Giro.
    Awful again tomorrow.

    Bad weather in the mountains is what you want, no?

    As long as it doesn't break the picture up too much.

    Today, maybe. Saturday, definitely not. You want to be able to see the mountains
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    joe2008 wrote:
    Ciccone looked to be on 30mm rims

    Immaterial. At least Hirt didn't do a Gerrans on him.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Pleased for Ciccone there, deserved that win. Sivakov did fairly well to limit his losses in the end as he got dropped early on the Mortirolo. Glad no-one went down on that descent.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    Roglic has been isolated right from early on. Poor team show from Nl Jumbo.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    I think it's the weather, but I'm just not feeling this Giro.
    Awful again tomorrow.

    Bad weather in the mountains is what you want, no?

    As long as it doesn't break the picture up too much.

    Not sure, it neutralises racing on the descent.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    Is the assumption that Carapaz will fade, or is he now in with a shout?
    Hasn't shipped too much in either of the TTs so far.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Is the assumption that Carapaz will fade, or is he now in with a shout?
    Hasn't shipped too much in either of the TTs so far.

    2nd on stage 19 last year, so no reason to think he's definitely going to fade.
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Is the assumption that Carapaz will fade, or is he now in with a shout?
    Hasn't shipped too much in either of the TTs so far.
    due a bad day perhaps?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    I know it was said a few days ago but Engels doesn't seem to be the most inspiring person to have in the car, I'm not convinced he believes in his man. Maybe it's a language thing.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Nibali ain't done yet and he gets stronger as the stage numbers eek closer to twenty.
    _
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Pross wrote:
    I know it was said a few days ago but Engels doesn't seem to be the most inspiring person to have in the car, I'm not convinced he believes in his man. Maybe it's a language thing.

    As I hit send on this Wiggins launched into a rant about it. I'd be looking for a new team ASAP if I was Roglic.
  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Nibali ain't done yet and he gets stronger as the stage numbers eek closer to twenty.
    I said he was going to win this before the race started and I’m still sticking with that prediction.

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