Freeman Medical Practitioner Tribunal .Manchester

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  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    ddraver said:

    Nothing much as far as I can tell.

    GMC is trying to show he had a serious aversion to following basic, boring medical practice rules, Freeman is trying to get off by claiming that Shane Sutton was mean to him...

    I reckon Freeman ordered the testosterone to be delivered to BC deliberately so he could use it as blackmail against anyone threatening his position by claiming it was for them ...

    (because, why would there be one traceable package delivered, with no audit-able records of who it was for - it wouldn't be difficult to get it in without being traceable and a one off delivery is a bit suspect - if it was genuine, then why no records?)
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    I don't get the impression that Freeman is so Machiavelian. And would be so easily refuted (if not necessarily disproved) to make him look stupid. There must be a reason though. And I'm amazed we've not heard it clearly.
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Sutton's truncated evidence ruled admissible by the tribunal.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    slowbike said:

    ddraver said:

    Nothing much as far as I can tell.

    GMC is trying to show he had a serious aversion to following basic, boring medical practice rules, Freeman is trying to get off by claiming that Shane Sutton was mean to him...

    I reckon Freeman ordered the testosterone to be delivered to BC deliberately so he could use it as blackmail against anyone threatening his position by claiming it was for them ...

    (because, why would there be one traceable package delivered, with no audit-able records of who it was for - it wouldn't be difficult to get it in without being traceable and a one off delivery is a bit suspect - if it was genuine, then why no records?)
    One explanation would be to cover up the accidental discovery of the untraceable stuff.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Wehey!

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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    The Freeman case may have been delayed, but I see that Jess Varnish has been given leave to appeal. Which in light of some of the stuff coming out of the Freeman case might serve her well.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Damien Collins is no longer chair of the DCMS committee.

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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    We are off again. The testogel was because Sutton couldn't get ' it on the big ring' as expected and Freeman couldn't say no. Now he's destroying a second laptop with a screwdriver?
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    edited October 2020
    Not sure I can be bothered anymore, but link here if you can:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/06/former-team-sky-doctor-destroyed-laptop-before-handing-it-to-experts
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Destroying a laptop (or at least the hard drive) should be pretty much standard practice when disposing/recycling it. The company I work for employ a specialist disposal service that collects used IT equipment and shreds the living f*** out of it.

    I showed my kids how to smash a hard drive to pieces with a hammer when I disposed my last non-work laptop. That only had personal data*, not e.g. patient data, but there would have been enough for a bit of identity theft and hacking if anyone had recovered it. The laptop wasn't in working order, or I'd have just wiped the HD.

    *Obviously including my plans for a violent revolution to overthrow the UCI, impose mandatory short colour rules punishable by death and employ cloud seeding planes on the day of Paris-Roubaix
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    D'ye think there are more important things going on in the world? Or will Roaneo be wittering again?

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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    I think it's quite important seeing as Murdoch jnr is involved and the integrity of Team Sky is in question. Freeman has unfortunately got in the middle of it and been dropped like a fat sprinter on the Alto de los Machucos
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Destroying a laptop (or at least the hard drive) should be pretty much standard practice when disposing/recycling it. The company I work for employ a specialist disposal service that collects used IT equipment and shreds the living f*** out of it.

    I showed my kids how to smash a hard drive to pieces with a hammer when I disposed my last non-work laptop. That only had personal data*, not e.g. patient data, but there would have been enough for a bit of identity theft and hacking if anyone had recovered it. The laptop wasn't in working order, or I'd have just wiped the HD.

    *Obviously including my plans for a violent revolution to overthrow the UCI, impose mandatory short colour rules punishable by death and employ cloud seeding planes on the day of Paris-Roubaix

    Off topic, but why not just use kill disk?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Oh good, another dead end of a story for the thread that couldn't be allowed to die.


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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    I've been to a place which industrially destroys used computers. They literally go through a massive sci fi style shredder fed by a conveyor that you could imagine James Bond being put into then escaping from.

    It's standard for a lot of companies to send all their old computers there. Although, I would have thought most companies keep important data backed up...
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    TheBigBean said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Destroying a laptop (or at least the hard drive) should be pretty much standard practice when disposing/recycling it. The company I work for employ a specialist disposal service that collects used IT equipment and shreds the living f*** out of it.

    I showed my kids how to smash a hard drive to pieces with a hammer when I disposed my last non-work laptop. That only had personal data*, not e.g. patient data, but there would have been enough for a bit of identity theft and hacking if anyone had recovered it. The laptop wasn't in working order, or I'd have just wiped the HD.

    *Obviously including my plans for a violent revolution to overthrow the UCI, impose mandatory short colour rules punishable by death and employ cloud seeding planes on the day of Paris-Roubaix

    Off topic, but why not just use kill disk?
    Difficult on a laptop that isn't actually working
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    FWIW, which to be honest is SFA, I had a collection of old hard drive units which over the years and multiple sequential upgrades and replacements had been put aside In cupboards because... security innit. Purged aka binned them. After repeated power drillIng through the units. Ain't noone gonna read these boys now. Screwdriver? Amateur.

    Anyways... time to move on.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Just repurpose them as grinders or polishes. Plenty of vids on YouTube.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    I still got two old PCs and three old laptops and I know not to discard them. I'd destroy the hard drive if I knew how. (Yes, I could look it up).
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  • flite
    flite Posts: 227
    edited October 2020
    My last unwanted hard drive was violently attacked with a hammer and chisel, then driven over with a JCB. Because I don't trust my technical abilites to clear it electronically. Edit to add: this was by the recommendation of our local computer firm, who could have made money by wiping the disk for me!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    RichN95. said:

    I still got two old PCs and three old laptops and I know not to discard them. I'd destroy the hard drive if I knew how. (Yes, I could look it up).

    If they still work kill disk will take about 5 mins of reading to understand.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    I'm just trying to imagine the headline if he'd sent his laptop for disposal without ensuring the HD was clean, potentially with patient data etc. on it.
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  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,205
    We're at the beginning of the Giro, the 'Spring' classics are on, and the MTB World Championships - yet some journalists think this is more important/newsworthy.
    It's a pretty 'dodgy' episode, but it was 9 years ago, I no longer care; in fact, I'm fed up of seeing the same photo of the not esteemed Dr.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    A shock turn of events today as Shane Sutton barged into the courtroom, naked from the waist down, pointing at his engorged member, yelling "Say Hello to my Little Friend!"
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    Doesn't look great. So now the testosterone wasn't returned, but was washed down the sink instead.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    I dont know why he is bothering to go.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    darkhairedlord said:

    I dont know why he is bothering to go.

    Go where, to the tribunal? Presumably he wants to continue working as doctor.

    It still feels like cow level of excuses at the moment. We haven't got to dead twin brother level.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    I note Roaneo is back on. Wonder if he's been back to Leicester City any time since... you know...
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Destroying a laptop (or at least the hard drive) should be pretty much standard practice when disposing/recycling it.

    Not sure 'handing it to experts' counts as 'disposing/recycling it; :)
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    I have to admit to childishly chuckling to the constant references to Miss Meats alongside those of Sutton's erectile dysfunction in the BBC article. It sounds like a Carry On film "Miss Meats, did you help Mr Sutton with his little problem?".

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