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If they can do it properly it would certainly make sense. It has to be easier for everyone to just have a centrally operated service without a myriad different ticket options surely plus no shareholders wanting a cut of any profit so it can just be reinvested into the service. Of course, the if is a very big one as we know from the 'good old days' of British Rail.Jeremy.89 said:Various stories suggesting grant shapps wants to take charge of the railways. Maybe Jezza did win the argument!
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It’s the age old conundrum. How do you achieve the innovation and service only the markets can deliver where there is a natural monopoly?Nationalised industries stagnate and faux free markets get defrauded of investment to the benefit of shareholders.Pross said:
If they can do it properly it would certainly make sense. It has to be easier for everyone to just have a centrally operated service without a myriad different ticket options surely plus no shareholders wanting a cut of any profit so it can just be reinvested into the service. Of course, the if is a very big one as we know from the 'good old days' of British Rail.Jeremy.89 said:Various stories suggesting grant shapps wants to take charge of the railways. Maybe Jezza did win the argument!
My past 10 years of train use is chalk and cheese compared to BR. BR was an absolute nightmare. But then I rarely use local commuter trains. The ‘inter city’ services are generally very good these days.1 -
Inner city pricing is horrendous. Just try getting on a different train to the one you booked. It will cost you more than the original ticket.0
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Massive majority, loses a vote within the first year of the election. Rebels include former PM and a current minister. Classic.0
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Johnson continues to be the answer to the question 'how bad a PM would Corbyn have been?'surrey_commuter said:
No maybe about it, we have had tax rises, massive borrowing, vanity infrastructure projectsJeremy.89 said:Various stories suggesting grant shapps wants to take charge of the railways. Maybe Jezza did win the argument!
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I would replace Corbyn with Ed Miliband as their policies are more similarrjsterry said:
Johnson continues to be the answer to the question 'how bad a PM would Corbyn have been?'surrey_commuter said:
No maybe about it, we have had tax rises, massive borrowing, vanity infrastructure projectsJeremy.89 said:Various stories suggesting grant shapps wants to take charge of the railways. Maybe Jezza did win the argument!
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it seems like Dom's mate and a bloke he met in a pub car park have run into difficulties designing, build and launching low-earth orbit satellites to replace Galileo.
Instead we are going to buy a 20% stake in a bankrupt company who are doing similar but have 74 of the planned 650 satellites already in orbit.
If you ignore the costly stupidity of having to find an alternative to Galileo then this seems like a good news story.
My hesitancy is that past performance suggests that it will turn out to be an act of gross stupidity.0 -
Miliband is a bit too competent.surrey_commuter said:
I would replace Corbyn with Ed Miliband as their policies are more similarrjsterry said:
Johnson continues to be the answer to the question 'how bad a PM would Corbyn have been?'surrey_commuter said:
No maybe about it, we have had tax rises, massive borrowing, vanity infrastructure projectsJeremy.89 said:Various stories suggesting grant shapps wants to take charge of the railways. Maybe Jezza did win the argument!
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I was thinking more in terms of economic policiesrjsterry said:
Miliband is a bit too competent.surrey_commuter said:
I would replace Corbyn with Ed Miliband as their policies are more similarrjsterry said:
Johnson continues to be the answer to the question 'how bad a PM would Corbyn have been?'surrey_commuter said:
No maybe about it, we have had tax rises, massive borrowing, vanity infrastructure projectsJeremy.89 said:Various stories suggesting grant shapps wants to take charge of the railways. Maybe Jezza did win the argument!
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The whole tory party is just sick and rotten. The fact that this bonehead says this and doesn't think there's anything wrong shows he's living in an alternate reality.kingstongraham said:I'm not sure that Nadhim Zahawi has helped massively by saying that anyone who wants the same access to government should try going to their local Conservative party fundraising event.
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If only the uk was a bit smarter and only agreed to fund things abroad that could not be taken away without cmpensation. Obviously the flip side is that the EU are not crowning themselves in glory here.0
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So the summary here is.rick_chasey said:
Civil services advises something.
MP ignores them.
Turns out Civil Service advice was right.
Govt keeps MP in place and announces reform of civil service0 -
You are going to have to get used to this as there is no way Boris is going to establish a benchmark for when you have to resign/sacked for being a corrupt sack of sh1t liarrick_chasey said:
So the summary here is.rick_chasey said:
Civil services advises something.
MP ignores them.
Turns out Civil Service advice was right.
Govt keeps MP in place and announces reform of civil service0 -
Wonder if the news that the Russians were offering the Taliban bounties for killing US and UK soldiers will encourage the publication of the overdue report on Russian election interference.
Not holding my breath.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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The poor man’s Trump needs to up his game as nobody seems to have noticed he went to Westferry for his photo opp with Rishi drinking outside0
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His press-up photo is for what purpose?
I think everyone knows that is the only position he ever exerts himself anyway.0 -
This is very interesting.
Quite why the blond idiot doing push ups is more worthy of a front page I don't know
Well worth reading the whole speech.
Not sure what to make of all the clashes between what this and the previous government have done (or failed to do) and what he says here, but as a statement of direction. It's quite a dramatic shift. Can't help thinking that it will also need a new PM to become a reality, because Johnson shows no inclination to the effort or leadership skills required to pull this off.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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rjsterry said:
This is very interesting.
Quite why the blond idiot doing push ups is more worthy of a front page I don't know
Well worth reading the whole speech.
Not sure what to make of all the clashes between what this and the previous government have done (or failed to do) and what he says here, but as a statement of direction. It's quite a dramatic shift. Can't help thinking that it will also need a new PM to become a reality, because Johnson shows no inclination to the effort or leadership skills required to pull this off.
I can't be bothered to read that in large font with 16 words per page. It's a bit like trying to understand a photo by looking at it pixel by pixel.0 -
Eh? I'd assumed it was set like that for reading or transfer to autocue, but it's really not that difficult to read, especially if you are reading on a phone. It's worth the effort.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I managed 10/69 with a lot of skim reading. Could you advise where it gets interesting.rjsterry said:Eh? I'd assumed it was set like that for reading or transfer to autocue, but it's really not that difficult to read, especially if you are reading on a phone. It's worth the effort.
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If you are that uninterested why are you asking?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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It is unfortunate Tories have to reach back in time for their ideas, but I guess with the current crop you wouldn’t want them coming up with new ideas.
FDR was basically a highly centralising leader who’s cornerstone policies were all shaped by the depression and are broadly various forms of Keynesian stimulus type programmes.
So SC - this will not please you.
I have yet to see the U.K. really step ahead of the pack re stimulus and in fact they are behind places like Germany who brought a bazooka to the party (though arguably they can better afford said bazooka).
How this tallies with Gove’s Brexit agenda I can’t work out, so if anyone has any great ideas, let us know.0 -
My problem is that I see the economy failing due to C19 disruption. To take an extreme example if you gave everybody £1k it would not solve the C19 problem.rick_chasey said:It is unfortunate Tories have to reach back in time for their ideas, but I guess with the current crop you wouldn’t want them coming up with new ideas.
FDR was basically a highly centralising leader who’s cornerstone policies were all shaped by the depression and are broadly various forms of Keynesian stimulus type programmes.
So SC - this will not please you.
I have yet to see the U.K. really step ahead of the pack re stimulus and in fact they are behind places like Germany who brought a bazooka to the party (though arguably they can better afford said bazooka).
How this tallies with Gove’s Brexit agenda I can’t work out, so if anyone has any great ideas, let us know.0 -
The VAT rate cut in Germany is part of the package, but I'm sure Rick is fine with that."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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I've seen various rumours of VAT rate cuts in the UK. The argument seemed to be that it was not perfect, but was one of the few things that could be easily switched off and on again as required.Stevo_666 said:The VAT rate cut in Germany is part of the package, but I'm sure Rick is fine with that.
There's a separate argument on the madness that is the VAT rules on construction.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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From the looks of this we are talking about a rather low watt version of FDR.
Johnson has just pledged £1bn for school rebuilding over 10 years, which is... about 3 schools a year. There are over 4,000 secondary schools and over 20,000 primary schools.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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TBH it sounds simple but it causes quite a few practical issues to implement including changing every system/device in the country that generates invoices etc, the price of millions of products that are VAT-inclusive - twice in this case as its temporary. A German tax advisor I spoke to last week said it was a real pain.rjsterry said:
I've seen various rumours of VAT rate cuts in the UK. The argument seemed to be that it was not perfect, but was one of the few things that could be easily switched off and on again as required.Stevo_666 said:The VAT rate cut in Germany is part of the package, but I'm sure Rick is fine with that.
There's a separate argument on the madness that is the VAT rules on construction.
On your other pont, why confine yourself to such a small section of tax law? There's pushing 20,000 pages of the stuff these days IIRC. Shouldn't grumble I suppose
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Conversely if you solve C19 tomorrow the economy won’t just pick up where it left off.surrey_commuter said:
My problem is that I see the economy failing due to C19 disruption. To take an extreme example if you gave everybody £1k it would not solve the C19 problem.rick_chasey said:It is unfortunate Tories have to reach back in time for their ideas, but I guess with the current crop you wouldn’t want them coming up with new ideas.
FDR was basically a highly centralising leader who’s cornerstone policies were all shaped by the depression and are broadly various forms of Keynesian stimulus type programmes.
So SC - this will not please you.
I have yet to see the U.K. really step ahead of the pack re stimulus and in fact they are behind places like Germany who brought a bazooka to the party (though arguably they can better afford said bazooka).
How this tallies with Gove’s Brexit agenda I can’t work out, so if anyone has any great ideas, let us know.0
