LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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I think they just went on to the next novel in the series. Harry Potter and the Downward Spiral.
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Explain what you mean by downward spiral. The only one I can see is the NI burden.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Seriously?
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Can't answer the question I take it ?
Sounds like a lazy leftiebollox catchphrase, so explain why it isn't. Should be pretty easy if you're saying 'seriously?'
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I mean obviously not. He's not an idiot.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I'm guessing you can't explain either 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
My mistake.
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You know why, and I can't help you if you don't.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Funny how when I challenge stuff nobody seems able to answer.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Kinda surprised no-one's quoted The Telegraph.
"The tax burden is now set to be the highest ever enforced by any government since 1948. All by ministers who say – and even seem to believe – that taxes are actually going down.
"It struck me, at that dinner, that this is how the Right falls. It’s a kind of anaesthetic: reminisce about the formula that saved Britain in the 1980s while recreating the tax burden of the 1970s. Find, recite and believe cherry-picked numbers of low unemployment, airbrushing out the millions who have stopped looking for work. Call for tax cuts, but don’t bother to work out how they’d be implemented. Defend free markets, while pretending the North Sea windfall taxes didn’t happen. Talk blue, act red.
"Jeremy Hunt’s Budget this week was a classic of this genre. “We believe that, in a free society, the money you earn doesn’t belong to the government,” proclaimed the man now proposing to confiscate a greater share of your money than any modern chancellor. “If we want to encourage hard work, we should let people keep as much of their own money as possible.” He is proving his point with high taxes and a workforce still smaller than pre-lockdown.
"A statistical trick lies at the heart of this. Sunak is ushering in what he calls “the lowest effective personal tax rate since 1975” but, as the starting thresholds are not adjusted for inflation, more of your income is taxed. This is fiscal drag, a stealth tax that more than offsets falls in the tax rate. Result? Personal taxes will soon be higher, as a share of GDP, than any time since 1977. Almost the exact opposite of what Sunak said. People will notice. To paraphrase Marx (Groucho): who are voters going to believe – the Tories, or their own lying payslips?"
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Ah the Tories, the party that eliminated boom
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Meh, The Telegraph though. Leftie rag isn’t it,
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It's because you pretend to not understand things that you must understand to do your job.
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or perhaps they know a sealion when they see one
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If you want to focus on something that will confuse people on here, look at these.
(Feel free to ignore the rest of the thread as it is pretty bad.)
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Post budget polling has Conservative falling another 1-2% behind.
It's lost, there is literally nothing they can do, they might as well go early and try to hold onto a few seats.
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I'm a little surprised that it fell and didn't just stay stable.
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Quid pro quo innit.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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What debate? I'm waiting for some answers...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Another failure to answer.
I'm trying to establish the reasoning rather than people just parroting the Labour/Lib Dem soundbites.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
To be fair to Brown, he did - perhaps inadvertently - suggest that his claim was to have eliminated "Tory boom and bust". So obviously this left adequate "wriggle room" for the biggest bust in living memory, whilst not straying into the territory of being economical with the truth.
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"Debate ME!!"
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1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Not a problem, your failure to reply tells me what I need to know 😊
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Obviously leftie boom and bust gets a free pass in Cake Stop, as it can't be as bad as Tory boom and bust...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The leftie boom and bust was partly down to righty boom and bust in the US and elsewhere. The righty boom and bust now simply doesn't exist because there has been no boom.
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Are you expecting a leftie boom in the near future?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Likewise. Let me know when you're ready to reciprocate.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0