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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Oh it’s a joke relax
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,345
    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,549
    edited November 2023
    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,345
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.

    Well they got £140m for doing absolutely nothing, and Sunak got his dead cat.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,549
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    So, wait, Brexit is good because the EU can no longer interfere with us interfering with the national laws of other countries?

    I'm glad we've cleared that up. Rule Britannia.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397

    So, wait, Brexit is good because the EU can no longer interfere with us interfering with the national laws of other countries?

    I'm glad we've cleared that up. Rule Britannia.

    No.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    We must have missed the UK and Rwanda joining a political union.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It doesn't matter whether or not the perception was real. Got it.

    I have an elephant scarer in the garden. Works perfectly.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,549
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No it isn't. We applied for membership - some unification of legal systems was a requirement of membership from the off. If we hadn't been members and the EU had then insisted on sending officials to Britain, you would have a point.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,549
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It was 7 years ago.

    Let it go.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,345
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It was 7 years ago.

    Let it go.

    I think you touched a nerve.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It doesn't matter whether or not the perception was real. Got it.

    I have an elephant scarer in the garden. Works perfectly.
    I should add that it's reduced the value of my house a bit, though.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,345

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It doesn't matter whether or not the perception was real. Got it.

    I have an elephant scarer in the garden. Works perfectly.
    I should add that it's reduced the value of my house a bit, though.

    I think you'll find that British elephants are masters of camouflage, and have been there all the time. The proof is that you've never seen them.
  • rakkor
    rakkor Posts: 53
    They do say in London you're never more than 5 meters away from an elephant
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It doesn't matter whether or not the perception was real. Got it.

    I have an elephant scarer in the garden. Works perfectly.
    I didn't t comment on the degree to which the perception was valid - I thought I would let you assume that, which you did...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It was 7 years ago.

    Let it go.
    I guess you're talking to yourself there :smile:

    You seem determined to argue about a throw away comment - I think I should have posted it in the 'centre lefties in denial about Brexit' thread ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,397

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It was 7 years ago.

    Let it go.

    I think you touched a nerve.
    If its about Brexit, your nerves must be getting sick of being touched :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,549
    Really idiotic move over the 'Elgin Marbles' bits of the Parthenon.

    Just making enemies for zero gain.
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    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    rjsterry said:

    Really idiotic move over the 'Elgin Marbles' bits of the Parthenon.

    Just making enemies for zero gain.

    Tufton St string pullers tell HiRisk 'play to the gammons'.
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,928
    It seems bizarre - presumably Mitsotakis was asked about them and gave the expected answer that he would like them returned.
    It reminds me of drunk arguments when someone takes offence at something that they mistakenly thought you said, leaving you entirely baffled as to what the argument is about.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,549
    monkimark said:

    It seems bizarre - presumably Mitsotakis was asked about them and gave the expected answer that he would like them returned.
    It reminds me of drunk arguments when someone takes offence at something that they mistakenly thought you said, leaving you entirely baffled as to what the argument is about.

    I find it difficult to understand why anyone is still making the argument that they should be in London.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,928
    edited November 2023
    I guess if the British Museum gave back every foreign artefact, they wouldn't have much left? Doesn't get me worked up much either way really but I can see how the Greek people could rightly feel that they have been robbed. The poll result I saw suggested that 2/3 of brits think they should be returned.

    I think it's a complete non-issue for most people - I lived/worked in London for 20 years and I've never seen them. If you live in Glasgow, it'd probably be cheaper/easier to go and see them in Athens.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    The old argument was they'd be safest there, and if it wasn't for a British person wearing a flannel suit, they'd be lost entirely.

    That always struck me as essentially saying they'd have been stolen had we not stolen them.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,346

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I guess Rwanda doesn't like foreign courts meddling in its internal legal system.

    Understandable. Rwexit? ;)
    Not much of a pitch is it?

    Sorry chaps, would you mind awfully allowing us to oversee a significant chunk of your legal system to get me out of a bit of a domestic jam? No, there's not really anything in it for you.

    At least Cleverly seems to realise that the whole Rwanda farce is a waste of everyone's time.
    Maybe it helps you understand why a lot of us Brits might not be too keen on having European courts sticking their nose into our business. That was my point.
    I know what point you were trying to make. It's a false comparison. We voluntarily signed up to being EU members with pretty massive economic benefits. The EU didn't ask us to join to help them out with a bit of domestic politics.
    The interference point is valid.
    No, and it never was.

    How much EU legislation did the UK actually oppose?
    Your point is not relevant. It's about what concerned voters. The perception of EU interference in UK affairs was one of the reasons why we left the EU.
    It doesn't matter whether or not the perception was real. Got it.

    I have an elephant scarer in the garden. Works perfectly.
    I should add that it's reduced the value of my house a bit, though.

    I think you'll find that British elephants are masters of camouflage, and have been there all the time. The proof is that you've never seen them.
    they're ambush predators, no one is safe

    those splat marks on the pavement are all that's left of their victims
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny