Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle > Espelette 28/07/2018 - 31 km - Individual time-trial *Spoilers*

andytee87

ddraver wrote:

andytee87 wrote:

stuff

The flip side of that is what Patrick Lefevre says which is that grabbing a stage win in the first week takes the pressure off the team and so makes everything a bit easier.

Mind you this is man talking about Cav, Kittel & Gaviria...not exactly 2nd string sprinters

Agree 100% with him/you based on his roster and when you have Jungels who had an outside chance @ Top 10. Gaviria winning probably helped Alaphillipe get over not winning Mur-de-Bretagne, but that's if you bring a team with 4 possible winners for different stages (Gaviria, Alaphillippe, Gilbert, Terpstra).

Sponsor pressure to have the likes of Kittel, Cav there must be huge but when they are struggling so badly does it make sense? DiData are a bit different to Katusha as they never had GC ambitions just Cav/EBH/Pauwels depending on stage- kind of like a zero alcohol Quick-Step (sure they'll be fine with Maes next year! )

joe2008

Pross wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Ned is struggling.

Been a long for 3 weeks for him too.

I like Ned as a cycling presenter / journo type person but have to say he’s a bit of a Carlton Lite when commentating. Not sure he’s the right person.

I totally agree with this, Ned's in the wrong job... really like Millar though.

Think I preferred Phil and Paul to Ned.

ddraver

joe2008 wrote:

Pross wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Ned is struggling.

Been a long for 3 weeks for him too.

I like Ned as a cycling presenter / journo type person but have to say he’s a bit of a Carlton Lite when commentating. Not sure he’s the right person.

I totally agree with this, Ned's in the wrong job... really like Millar though.

Think I preferred Phil and Paul to Ned.

Woah woah woah, we've all had a drink mate! :shock:

mfin

Here's a way to sort out this G thing, based on fact... if you refer to him as G on here, typed, that's sort of okay but not really, don't be so lazy and type his name each time you have more than a half a second to spend on it. Now, if you refer to him as G in conversation and you aren't a mate of his, you are a complete and utter prick.

BelgianBeerGeek

ddraver wrote:

joe2008 wrote:

Pross wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Ned is struggling.

Been a long for 3 weeks for him too.

I like Ned as a cycling presenter / journo type person but have to say he’s a bit of a Carlton Lite when commentating. Not sure he’s the right person.

I totally agree with this, Ned's in the wrong job... really like Millar though.

Think I preferred Phil and Paul to Ned.

Woah woah woah, we've all had a drink mate! :shock:[/quote
I’ve had plenty to drink and yep, Ned could shut up for a bit, he’s been pretty good.

BelgianBeerGeek

mfin wrote:

Here's a way to sort out this G thing, based on fact... if you refer to him as G on here, typed, that's sort of okay but not really, don't be so lazy and type his name each time you have more than a half a second to spend on it. Now, if you refer to him as G in conversation and you aren't a mate of his, you are a complete and utter prick.

Thanks for the clarification mf.

FocusZing

^Ha!

hypster

joe2008 wrote:

Pross wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Ned is struggling.

Been a long for 3 weeks for him too.

I like Ned as a cycling presenter / journo type person but have to say he’s a bit of a Carlton Lite when commentating. Not sure he’s the right person.

I totally agree with this, Ned's in the wrong job... really like Millar though.

Think I preferred Phil and Paul to Ned.

Definitely. Ned Boulting is totally out of his depth and his over-emphasis of French place and people names is cringe-worthy. Millar comes out with some choice crap at times as well. Especially all the nonsense about Valverde going up the road to "help" Quintana. Do you think he actually believes that?

ddraver

Penny for Chris Froome's honest thoughts right now...

(A cent for TommyD's too...If they'd had a TT early in the race, Tommy puts 30 secs into G because G is riding in support of Froome...)

Pross

ddraver wrote:

Penny for Chris Froome's honest thoughts right now...

(A cent for TommyD's too...If they'd had a TT early in the race, Tommy puts 30 secs into G because G is riding in support of Froome...)

I suspect Froome knows he didn’t have the form and is probably ultimately happy that his mate was able to keep the title within the team. I reckon he was probably pushing to retain it until Wednesday then knew it was over.

Dumoulin is a tricky one. No doubt he’ll be happy knowing he has beaten Froome but frustrated that he still missed the top step but again, if he’s being honest, will accept it as a fair reflection. Probably wishing he’d missed the Giro though.

ddraver

^Good Call

richard_t._biscuit

mfin wrote:

Here's a way to sort out this G thing, based on fact... if you refer to him as G on here, typed, that's sort of okay but not really, don't be so lazy and type his name each time you have more than a half a second to spend on it. Now, if you refer to him as G in conversation and you aren't a mate of his, you are a complete and utter prick.

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mfin wrote:

Stage win for G?

Literally yesterday

bobmcstuff

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

mfin wrote:

Here's a way to sort out this G thing, based on fact... if you refer to him as G on here, typed, that's sort of okay but not really, don't be so lazy and type his name each time you have more than a half a second to spend on it. Now, if you refer to him as G in conversation and you aren't a mate of his, you are a complete and utter prick.

Thanks for the clarification mf.

Ain't nuthin but a G thang baby

FocusZing

Hey, leave MFP alone!

mfin

Richard T. Biscuit wrote:

mfin wrote:

Here's a way to sort out this G thing, based on fact... if you refer to him as G on here, typed, that's sort of okay but not really, don't be so lazy and type his name each time you have more than a half a second to spend on it. Now, if you refer to him as G in conversation and you aren't a mate of his, you are a complete and utter prick.

viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=13094173&p=20391146#p20391146

mfin wrote:

Stage win for G?

Literally yesterday

Yep, only had half a second to spend on it, the vast majority of times I type Geraint or Thomas.

On another note, tomorrow I bet London will be packed with Ride London sportifisters having endlessly repeated monotonous conversations about him, and a lot of C's will be saying G there.

FocusZing

mfin wrote:

Richard T. Biscuit wrote:

mfin wrote:

Here's a way to sort out this G thing, based on fact... if you refer to him as G on here, typed, that's sort of okay but not really, don't be so lazy and type his name each time you have more than a half a second to spend on it. Now, if you refer to him as G in conversation and you aren't a mate of his, you are a complete and utter prick.

viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=13094173&p=20391146#p20391146

mfin wrote:

Stage win for G?

Literally yesterday

Yep, only had half a second to spend on it, the vast majority of times I type Geraint or Thomas.

On another note, tomorrow I bet London will be packed with Ride London sportifisters having endlessly repeated monotonous conversations about him, and a lot of C's will be saying G there.

You will happy to know Cavs riding MFP.

mfin

Gotta love Cav

BelgianBeerGeek

mfin wrote:

Gotta love Cav[/quote
C’s and G’s. My bad, and no offence meant.

above_the_cows

Pross wrote:

Shipley wrote:

bobmcstuff wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

john1967 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

curium wrote:

G the first Tour winner born in the British Isles!

Roche

he is Irish.

It all comes down to whether you think is Ireland part of the British Isles

It is part of the British Isles. That is a fact!!

Er.......wars have been fought over that. The north might be but the certainly south isn’t !

I think you are confusing political and physical geography.

As a political geographer I'd just like to point out that physical geography is also political geography. There are some islands that exist in what we generally call north west Europe, who decided to name them the British Isles is entirely political, who can actually say they are positioned in north west Europe is also entirely political. Anyway as you were...

No_Ta_Doctor

Pross wrote:

ddraver wrote:

Penny for Chris Froome's honest thoughts right now...

(A cent for TommyD's too...If they'd had a TT early in the race, Tommy puts 30 secs into G because G is riding in support of Froome...)

I suspect Froome knows he didn’t have the form and is probably ultimately happy that his mate was able to keep the title within the team. I reckon he was probably pushing to retain it until Wednesday then knew it was over.

Dumoulin is a tricky one. No doubt he’ll be happy knowing he has beaten Froome but frustrated that he still missed the top step but again, if he’s being honest, will accept it as a fair reflection. Probably wishing he’d missed the Giro though.

Dumoulin doesn't strike me as a rider that just says the diplomatic stuff in interviews, seems to be very straightforward and honest.
And he seemed pretty happy with it, said even if he'd not crashed he'd still have been beaten, G(eraint) was strongest.

johnboy183

Can we have it that G is the first winner from the West of England

No_Ta_Doctor

Above The Cows wrote:

Pross wrote:

Shipley wrote:

bobmcstuff wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

john1967 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

curium wrote:

G the first Tour winner born in the British Isles!

Roche

he is Irish.

It all comes down to whether you think is Ireland part of the British Isles

It is part of the British Isles. That is a fact!!

Er.......wars have been fought over that. The north might be but the certainly south isn’t !

I think you are confusing political and physical geography.

As a political geographer I'd just like to point out that physical geography is also political geography. There are some islands that exist in what we generally call north west Europe, who decided to name them the British Isles is entirely political, who can actually say they are positioned in north west Europe is also entirely political. Anyway as you were...

As a geographically political physician*, what's really important is which bits of the islands have insulin stockpiled.




*Not really.

larkim

On the G thing - I’d hazard a guess that Ned etc have met Mr Thomas more times than the rest of us put together and probably have had the conversation “Is it Geraint or G?” to which the answer is likely to have been “Call me G” otherwise Mr Thomas would have likely got a bit irritated.

Yellow Peril

On the G thing. I understand that started out as a nickname for him by his mates (Cav I believe) which is ok if it is used exclusively with your mates. However, I think he called his book "The world of cycling according to G" Therefore I would say if you are prepared to sell your book to the public by referencing yourself as G you have to accpet they may refer to you as G. It's hypocritical to have it both ways.
For the record I wouldn't consciously do it, I think it's a tad lame sounding. Super ride by him though.

above_the_cows

No tA Doctor wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

Pross wrote:

Shipley wrote:

bobmcstuff wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

john1967 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

curium wrote:

G the first Tour winner born in the British Isles!

Roche

he is Irish.

It all comes down to whether you think is Ireland part of the British Isles

It is part of the British Isles. That is a fact!!

Er.......wars have been fought over that. The north might be but the certainly south isn’t !

I think you are confusing political and physical geography.

As a political geographer I'd just like to point out that physical geography is also political geography. There are some islands that exist in what we generally call north west Europe, who decided to name them the British Isles is entirely political, who can actually say they are positioned in north west Europe is also entirely political. Anyway as you were...

As a geographically political physician*, what's really important is which bits of the islands have insulin stockpiled.




*Not really.

You joke but that is pretty serious stuff in the coming months.

salsiccia1

johnboy183 wrote:

Can we have it that G is the first winner from the West of England

Why I oughta...

Lanterne_Rogue

Above The Cows wrote:

You joke but that is pretty serious stuff in the coming months.

Tell me about it. Used to follow you on Twitter 'cause it was interesting source of things I didn't see elsewhere. Now it's because I like reading horror stories set in a dystopian future...

No_Ta_Doctor

underlayunderlay wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

You joke but that is pretty serious stuff in the coming months.

Tell me about it. Used to follow you on Twitter 'cause it was interesting source of things I didn't see elsewhere. Now it's because I like reading horror stories set in a dystopian future...

We're living in the novel William Gibson stopped writing because it was too pessimistic.

FocusZing

...

thegibdog

Can’t believe that there is such a debate about whether G is acceptable when we all know that it’s T.