2019 Pro Race Gear

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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Yes I got that impression watching the YouTube clip. It does seem a lot of force on a small contact point, let alone a pro going full tilt.

    Hope it's one of those concepts which actually comes to fruition, because it does look more efficient.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,843
    FocusZing wrote:
    Yes I got that impression watching the YouTube clip. It does seem a lot of force on a small contact point, let alone a pro going full tilt.

    Hope it's one of those concepts which actually comes to fruition, because it does look more efficient.

    The design was originally made in the late 19th century and, unsurprisingly, it never caught on.

    Again, I don't really see what problem it's trying to solve.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    FocusZing wrote:
    Yes I got that impression watching the YouTube clip. It does seem a lot of force on a small contact point, let alone a pro going full tilt.

    Hope it's one of those concepts which actually comes to fruition, because it does look more efficient.

    The design was originally made in the late 19th century and, unsurprisingly, it never caught on.

    Again, I don't really see what problem it's trying to solve.

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    Come on Rick this is hardly the same, also with that attitude you would still be riding a dandy horse.

    I guess actual physical proof of this (with gear changes) needs to be attainted first, but it's supposed/looks to be more efficient. That's the salient reason.

    Hey, I just like to see innovation.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,843
    FocusZing wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Yes I got that impression watching the YouTube clip. It does seem a lot of force on a small contact point, let alone a pro going full tilt.

    Hope it's one of those concepts which actually comes to fruition, because it does look more efficient.

    The design was originally made in the late 19th century and, unsurprisingly, it never caught on.

    Again, I don't really see what problem it's trying to solve.

    Dhq3YSWXcAciYHX.jpg

    Come on Rick this is hardly the same, also with that attitude you would still be riding a dandy horse.

    I guess actual physical proof of this (with gear changes) needs to be attainted first, but it's supposed/looks to be more efficient. That's the salient reason.

    Hey, I just like to see innovation.

    I’d be curious to see if it was more efficient, given a chain is already very efficient.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Yep. It needs the data to backup the concept and claims. I can see it ending up like some of the outlandish concept cars (show grabbing headlines). Hope I'm proved wrong.

    The YouTube clip is good, demonstrates where they are at.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
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    I hadn't clocked the fact that UAE were riding zipperless jerseys (from Champion Systems). As you can imagine they're saying they are so breathable you don't need to unzip for cooling and of course more aero...
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,843
    inseine wrote:
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    I hadn't clocked the fact that UAE were riding zipperless jerseys (from Champion Systems). As you can imagine they're saying they are so breathable you don't need to unzip for cooling and of course more aero...

    Yeah.

    Can't be fun getting those off.

    Similarly, some teams have bags to put their TT numbers in nowadays.

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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,577
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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    Suttle, nice.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,238
    *Subtle
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Ha! Some excuse.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    For the Champs stage, anything goes.
  • andytee87
    andytee87 Posts: 406
    Gweeds wrote:
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/

    Good! After seeing them riding the TT on bikes with standard calipers in front of the forks it made me wonder whats happened with Cervelo? Putting everything behing the triathlon/IM rigs and disc brakes maybe, but will be interesting what Dumoulin makes of them or if they develop/bring out something new for Sunweb.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    andytee87 wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/

    Good! After seeing them riding the TT on bikes with standard calipers in front of the forks it made me wonder whats happened with Cervelo? Putting everything behing the triathlon/IM rigs and disc brakes maybe, but will be interesting what Dumoulin makes of them or if they develop/bring out something new for Sunweb.

    Gerard Vroomen moved on.
    Ben

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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    FocusZing wrote:
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    Thats a bike shop full of bike right there
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    andytee87 wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/

    Good! After seeing them riding the TT on bikes with standard calipers in front of the forks it made me wonder whats happened with Cervelo? Putting everything behing the triathlon/IM rigs and disc brakes maybe, but will be interesting what Dumoulin makes of them or if they develop/bring out something new for Sunweb.

    So Sunweb not on Giant anymore? i missed that.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,843
    Cervelo.

    Which Cav was complaining about.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,447
    Ben6899 wrote:
    andytee87 wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/

    Good! After seeing them riding the TT on bikes with standard calipers in front of the forks it made me wonder whats happened with Cervelo? Putting everything behing the triathlon/IM rigs and disc brakes maybe, but will be interesting what Dumoulin makes of them or if they develop/bring out something new for Sunweb.

    Gerard Vroomen moved on.

    That...

    He now makes incredibly expensive Gravel and XC bikes...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • andytee87
    andytee87 Posts: 406
    ddraver wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    andytee87 wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/

    Why don't Cervelo seem to have R&D?

    Gerard Vroomen moved on.

    That...

    He now makes incredibly expensive Gravel and XC bikes...

    Yeh, I knew Vroomen had set up OPEN but they seem slow even following trends let alone coming up with something new!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,447
    I think Vroomen was the creative force behind them really. They also got bought by one of these overarching bike companies didnt they?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Cervelo R5 Disc, that might help

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,447
    (I still think they make pretty bikes. I saw someone on a soloist on sunday and I still hanker after one of them...Bit like I do with Santa Cruz MTBs)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Wheelspinner
    Wheelspinner Posts: 6,595
    ddraver wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    andytee87 wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/

    Good! After seeing them riding the TT on bikes with standard calipers in front of the forks it made me wonder whats happened with Cervelo? Putting everything behing the triathlon/IM rigs and disc brakes maybe, but will be interesting what Dumoulin makes of them or if they develop/bring out something new for Sunweb.

    Gerard Vroomen moved on.

    That...

    He now makes incredibly expensive Gravel and XC bikes...
    He does and they are fantastic (have an XC one). He also owns at least a fair chunk of 3T I think?
    Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    Cervelo.

    Which Cav was complaining about.

    Very confusing. I thought CCC were going to be on Cervelo and Dimension data on BMC. Where are Giant going?
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Cervelo R5 Disc, that might help

    cervelor5disc_0.jpg?itok=HZgSvzHe

    cervelor5disc-bars_0.jpg?itok=0pTOChyS

    Talk about vanilla...
    Ben

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  • andytee87
    andytee87 Posts: 406
    inseine wrote:
    Cervelo.

    Which Cav was complaining about.

    Very confusing. I thought CCC were going to be on Cervelo and Dimension data on BMC. Where are Giant going?

    I think the rumour mill is BMC bikes for Dimension Data, Cervelo bikes for Sunweb, Giant bikes for whats now BMC Racing.

    Will be interesting what happens to Cervelo Bigla in the womens peloton as I assume Sunweb ladies will be on Cervelo as well
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    Ben6899 wrote:
    andytee87 wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Di-Data riding BMC next year confirmed:

    http://africasteam.com/2018/07/23/bmc-s ... sion-data/

    Good! After seeing them riding the TT on bikes with standard calipers in front of the forks it made me wonder whats happened with Cervelo? Putting everything behing the triathlon/IM rigs and disc brakes maybe, but will be interesting what Dumoulin makes of them or if they develop/bring out something new for Sunweb.

    Gerard Vroomen moved on.

    their product stalled around 2014, except the triantelope market place. the S5 S3 and S2 are only evolutions of older designs. good bikes, sure... but everyone else has moved on (at least marketing wise)....