Giro 2018 Stage 14: San Vito al Tagliamento - Monte Zoncolan 186 kilometres *Spoilers*

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    edited May 2018
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Chavez dropped already so it looks like its Yates is on his own.

    I wonder if chavez is actually knackered or being petulant

    Why would he be petulant? He was a protected rider until he got dropped a few days ago and Yates left him to win a stage that he could have easily taken himself.

    I don’t think Chaves has a 3 week GT in him unfortunately

    Edit I mean anymore
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    offt, them lines through them corners
  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Topper harley wrote:
    Pathetic from that team helper

    People falling over will never not be funny

    giro-fall.gif
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    ShutupJens wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    ShutupJens wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    looks like everyone is so scared of the zoncalan it sedates the race a tad.

    100, making the race hard AF doesn't necessarily add to the spectacle

    the previous supposed "quiet easy"stages really took it out of the bunch maybe?

    lot of factors

    Oh yeah of course, especially the 200+km one

    But even if you're feeling good you know that you aren't going to attack today until the final few KMs

    hoping for a few attacks on penultimate climb is a bit optimistic...maybe over the top and on the descent?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    Twitchy bum time for the peloton on this descent
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Pross wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Chavez dropped already so it looks like its Yates is on his own.

    I wonder if chavez is actually knackered or being petulant

    Why would he be petulant? He was a protected rider until he got dropped a few days ago and Yates left him to win a stage that he could have easily taken himself.

    I don’t think Chaves has a 3 week GT in him .unfortunately

    why is anyone petulant? the jury is still out
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    Didn’t realise Chaves had a jury on him
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    split on the descent
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    RichN95 wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Anyone got any idea what time they're likely to finish? I need to pace my drinking. I've a ride to get up for tomorrow.
    About 4.15-4.30 UK time
    Thanks.
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    Think the dawg missed the split
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    temp split coming back together.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    2 of the winners on the Zoncolan have come from breaks so there is stuff to ride for before they get to the foot.

    The harder they ride over the previous climbs the fewer people go fight for position at the bottom of the climb too.


    Furthermore, if you know someone like Dumoulin can smash out a lot of power for 40-50 mins but struggles when it’s hard all day AND up and down, why not try to make it hard for him, if you can?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Rick Chasey wrote:

    Furthermore, if you know someone like Dumoulin can smash out a lot of power for 40-50 mins but struggles when it’s hard all day AND up and down, why not try to make it hard for him, if you can?

    This is what I have been pondering. Especially given the gradients on these pre-climb climbs.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    lot of pressure on yates to deliver here. needs to be super patient
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    Great crowds....it’s nealry as busy as the butter tubs was
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    2 of the winners on the Zoncolan have come from breaks so there is stuff to ride for before they get to the foot.

    The harder they ride over the previous climbs the fewer people go fight for position at the bottom of the climb too.


    Furthermore, if you know someone like Dumoulin can smash out a lot of power for 40-50 mins but struggles when it’s hard all day AND up and down, why not try to make it hard for him, if you can?


    sign of weakness by MS is my take. they look more scared of the stage than sunweb. there is that "keep the team together as long as poss perogative" but seems moot given the ending.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Agreed. Not like them either. Wonder if Chavez’s lack of form has spooked them.


    Froome is running 34-32 by the way; so perhaps he shared my concern about his ability to spin as fast as he likes to.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Agreed. Not like them either. Wonder if Chavez’s lack of form has spooked them.


    Froome is running 34-32 by the way; so perhaps he shared my concern about his ability to spin as fast as he likes to.

    i need a 32-34 for that climb.

    Yates is losing weight in a spectacular and perhaps unhealthy rate spooks me! his eyeballs are in hollowed out sockets so deep you can reach in a touch the back of eye!

    god, I hope I'm wrong..would be shame if yates collapses in the third.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Aru riding a normal compact 36-50 today with 30 on the back.

    Only one of the favourites with a 36 small ring; the rest on 34s.
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  • craigus89
    craigus89 Posts: 887
    Ha, loving the gearing info Rick, you got eagle eyes or inside info?
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    ~MS look tired.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Craigus89 wrote:
    Ha, loving the gearing info Rick, you got eagle eyes or inside info?

    Just from Twitter; Gregor Brown.

    Also tallies with what I remember from riders like Aru and what gearing they rode last time up.

    Froome felt 34x30 wasn’t short enough on his training I believe.
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  • lucan2
    lucan2 Posts: 294
    Colin Lynch just got a mention by Kirby. No mention of the Forum though
  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,448
    If I was riding towards Zoncolan, this is about the time when I’d desperately be looking for a toilet or bush to get rid of the ‘nerves’...
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    come on yates...one more piece of magic.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    support motos! :)
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Positioning! A bike length back is a long way back on 20%
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Astana having to hang around for Lopez again.
    Dropped, every time the road goes down.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Astana having to hang around for Lopez again.
    Dropped, every time the road goes down.

    got to admire their professional loyalty thou.
    :D
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    My stomach is in knots for the riders

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