Giro 2018 Stage 14: San Vito al Tagliamento - Monte Zoncolan 186 kilometres *Spoilers*

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  • lucan2
    lucan2 Posts: 293
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Lucan2 wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Nothing suspicious about that turnaround in performance by Froome - if you believe in miracles.

    I suggest you stop watching cycling, and stop reading cycling forums.

    Why? Because I choose to agree with others who don't agree with you?

    Jog on.
    It’s probably because your first post of the whole Giro was a sarcastic dig at Froome. Twitter is that way ;)

    I wouldn't know. I don't do Twitter
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    That was a good stage. I tend to think Zoncolan doesn't really produce good racing but it can sometimes.

    Yates looks good but does he have much left? TD seemed solid but doesn't seem convinced himself.

    Froome's tail will be up now and if you look at the rest of the Giro it's more kind of his bag than the chaos of the first couple of weeks of the race.

    I was hoping Bennett would hang on.

    Tomorrow could be a corker.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Nothing suspicious about that turnaround in performance by Froome - if you believe in miracles.

    Bore off.

    I doubt you even knew what a peloton was in the ‘90s when that kind of revalation was relevant.

    Did you watch the commentary or did you just make your own up, you condescending knob?

    4Km out and the commentator (Hatch?) said exactly what I said, that after the last two weeks, Froome's performance was "miraculous". Did you feel it necessary to take it up with him in any way? No, because you're just another keyboard warrior.

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    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Lucan2 wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Nothing suspicious about that turnaround in performance by Froome - if you believe in miracles.

    I suggest you stop watching cycling, and stop reading cycling forums.

    Why? Because I choose to agree with others who don't agree with you?

    Jog on.
    It’s probably because your first post of the whole Giro was a sarcastic dig at Froome. Twitter is that way ;)

    I wouldn't know. I don't do Twitter
    You should. You would fit right in ;)

    The vast majority of posters here are not interested in the doping innuendo. It’s not because they are Sky or Froome fans either. They can just see past it and enjoy the racing.

    If that’s what gets you off you’ll get much more enjoyment out of Twitter or the clinic.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Nothing suspicious about that turnaround in performance by Froome - if you believe in miracles.

    Bore off.

    I doubt you even knew what a peloton was in the ‘90s when that kind of revalation was relevant.

    Did you watch the commentary or did you just make your own up, you condescending knob?

    4Km out and the commentator (Hatch?) said exactly what I said, that after the last two weeks, Froome's performance was "miraculous". Did you feel it necessary to take it up with him in any way? No, because you're just another keyboard warrior.

    No I watched it in the Netherlands.
    _
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Lucan2 wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Nothing suspicious about that turnaround in performance by Froome - if you believe in miracles.

    I suggest you stop watching cycling, and stop reading cycling forums.

    Why? Because I choose to agree with others who don't agree with you?

    Jog on.
    No, not that. It's because it's the first post I've seen of yours since the start of this entertaining Giro and certainly the first of this epic stage and it appears so negative, like you don't really like cycling /cyclists. Maybe I'm wrong but you give the impression of not really liking the sport.
    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Lucan2 wrote:
    Did you watch the commentary

    I don't think any of us watched the commentary, unless we have some members with hearing problems (to which I apologise), but some of us often listen to the commentary in languages other than English, Rick being one of them.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
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    That actually looks like a Yates brother.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Some comments from old pros that Yates should have ditched his bottle

    Proper old pros would say he just needed to take the bottle from the bike and put it in his jersey pocket.
    Half man, Half bike
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Ridgerider wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Some comments from old pros that Yates should have ditched his bottle

    Proper old pros would say he just needed to take the bottle from the bike and put it in his jersey pocket.

    :wink:
    _
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.
    _
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,438
    andyp wrote:
    knedlicky wrote:

    I watched the RAI interviews with Froome (two of them, one before and one after the ceremonies) and he was very relaxed and upbeat in both, suggesting not just pleased with today, but also very optimistic about the coming days.
    Also his Italian was surprisingly better than okay - never heard him speak Italian before.
    He got asked about the royal wedding too! :roll:

    Unlike the Froome interviews, the RAI interview with Yates had to be conducted in English, and it came over that he wasn't totally satisfied with the outcome. Maybe because he hoped to out-distance TD more, or maybe because he now feels he has two main opponents.

    Froome lived in Italy when he was at Barloworld, somewhere just south of Brescia I believe, and learnt decent Italian by all accounts.

    Froome isn't very charismatic, but he's definitely intelligent.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.
    Weird. Only Froome seemed happy after the stage.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,382
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.
    Weird. Only Froome seemed happy after the stage.
    Froome had a crash which affected his performance, and therefore results. He has had the best part of a week to recover since the last hard day, won a stage and is back in contention for a podium finish at least. Hardly surprising that he is happy.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.
    Weird. Only Froome seemed happy after the stage.
    Froome had a crash which affected his performance, and therefore results. He has had the best part of a week to recover since the last hard day, won a stage and is back in contention for a podium finish at least. Hardly surprising that he is happy.
    I’m aware of that. My point was, which you seemed to miss, that I think it’s weird that Yates is not happier that he took more time out of Dumoulin and think it weird that Dumoulin is not happy because he road well to limit his losses to Yates.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    “Harder than expected” says Dumoulin. In the context of the Zoncalon that must be pretty hard.
    _
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,257
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.
    Weird. Only Froome seemed happy after the stage.
    Froome had a crash which affected his performance, and therefore results. He has had the best part of a week to recover since the last hard day, won a stage and is back in contention for a podium finish at least. Hardly surprising that he is happy.
    I’m aware of that. My point was, which you seemed to miss, that I think it’s weird that Yates is not happier that he took more time out of Dumoulin and think it weird that Dumoulin is not happy because he road well to limit his losses to Yates.
    I suppose with the unknown of how the TT will go, it pays for both to set targets which are at the extremes. Yates will be budgeting on the TT gap being three minutes, Dumoulin one minute.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.

    By the look of him, I think it's fair to say that Pinot suffered more, sitting behind his wheel.
    Zero slipstream benefit on the Zonc.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,702
    (if anyone finds a link with the last 10km could you post it? Can't find one yet)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,257
    ddraver wrote:
    (if anyone finds a link with the last 10km could you post it? Can't find one yet)
    The last 5km is the best I can find: http://www.steephill.tv/players/eitb/?t ... 23&yr=2018 (Basque TV)
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,438
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.
    Weird. Only Froome seemed happy after the stage.
    Froome had a crash which affected his performance, and therefore results. He has had the best part of a week to recover since the last hard day, won a stage and is back in contention for a podium finish at least. Hardly surprising that he is happy.
    I’m aware of that. My point was, which you seemed to miss, that I think it’s weird that Yates is not happier that he took more time out of Dumoulin and think it weird that Dumoulin is not happy because he road well to limit his losses to Yates.

    I'd have thought Yates would/should be disappointed he didn't take more time out of Dumoulin on that finish.

    I thought Dumoulin put in a really good ride to limit his losses - if thatbwas harder than expected, fair enough.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    If you plan watching now. 12kms or so left on Eurosport.

    http://www.liveonlinetv247.info/eurosport.php
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Tom is cutting quite a dejected figure today in the NOS interviews.
    _
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,257
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    These three people had a big day today

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    Twitter: @RichN95
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    RichN95 wrote:
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    That's a great pic. As Yates said in his interview, so close yet so far. Almost seemed like Yates could reach out and touch Froome near the top but just didn't have the extra power to close the gap. Brutal but brilliant climb.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    If you're struggling to find final kms the daily threads on reddit usually have them linked at the top, today's here.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,257
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    That's a great pic. As Yates said in his interview, so close yet so far. Almost seemed like Yates could reach out and touch Froome near the top but just didn't have the extra power to close the gap. Brutal but brilliant climb.
    It was like watching the world's slowest pursuit race
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,382
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Dumoulin making noises he really suffered today.
    Weird. Only Froome seemed happy after the stage.
    Froome had a crash which affected his performance, and therefore results. He has had the best part of a week to recover since the last hard day, won a stage and is back in contention for a podium finish at least. Hardly surprising that he is happy.
    I’m aware of that. My point was, which you seemed to miss, that I think it’s weird that Yates is not happier that he took more time out of Dumoulin and think it weird that Dumoulin is not happy because he road well to limit his losses to Yates.
    Pretty much boils down to the time trial.
    Yates would have preferred more, Dumoulin would have preferred less and Froome is happy to be back in contention.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,702
    Yes, can see how that wouldve been good to watch live...

    Tommy might be dejected, I suppose it's never nice to lose time, but based on that ride he's not got much to worry about.

    Good on Froomey though
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver

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