Harry. Is it ok...?

surrey_commuter

Ballysmate wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Anyway Harry. Good luck mate. But I don't want to hear anything more about your private life. It just isn't important.

This.

Very much this.

Don't give the Royal Family much thought at all but to all the republicans on here, how would I materially benefit from the abolition of the monarchy?

well the Queen is the richest person in the world so if we sold off all of her land, houses and valuables then it would pay for a fair few new hospitals or reducing the national debt.

or their wealth could be shared equally and you would be approx £1k better off

I can't believe a single tourist would cease to come here because we don't have a monarch that they will never see anyway

ballysmate

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Anyway Harry. Good luck mate. But I don't want to hear anything more about your private life. It just isn't important.

This.

Very much this.

Don't give the Royal Family much thought at all but to all the republicans on here, how would I materially benefit from the abolition of the monarchy?

well the Queen is the richest person in the world so if we sold off all of her land, houses and valuables then it would pay for a fair few new hospitals or reducing the national debt.

or their wealth could be shared equally and you would be approx £1k better off

I can't believe a single tourist would cease to come here because we don't have a monarch that they will never see anyway

£340 million apparently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33253411

dinyull

Ballysmate wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Anyway Harry. Good luck mate. But I don't want to hear anything more about your private life. It just isn't important.

This.

Very much this.

Don't give the Royal Family much thought at all but to all the republicans on here, how would I materially benefit from the abolition of the monarchy?

well the Queen is the richest person in the world so if we sold off all of her land, houses and valuables then it would pay for a fair few new hospitals or reducing the national debt.

or their wealth could be shared equally and you would be approx £1k better off

I can't believe a single tourist would cease to come here because we don't have a monarch that they will never see anyway

£340 million apparently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33253411

The same article says the Crown Estate is worth just shy of £12b...

dinyull

Still, not the richest person but not short of a bob or two.

And in touch with the peoples - https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/sep ... ham-palace

ballysmate

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Anyway Harry. Good luck mate. But I don't want to hear anything more about your private life. It just isn't important.

This.

Very much this.

Don't give the Royal Family much thought at all but to all the republicans on here, how would I materially benefit from the abolition of the monarchy?

well the Queen is the richest person in the world so if we sold off all of her land, houses and valuables then it would pay for a fair few new hospitals or reducing the national debt.

or their wealth could be shared equally and you would be approx £1k better off

I can't believe a single tourist would cease to come here because we don't have a monarch that they will never see anyway

£340 million apparently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33253411

The same article says the Crown Estate is worth just shy of £12b...

The same article also says that the treasury gets 85% of the profits from the Crown Estate.

ballysmate

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

dinyull

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

rolf_f

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Anyway Harry. Good luck mate. But I don't want to hear anything more about your private life. It just isn't important.

This.

Very much this.

Don't give the Royal Family much thought at all but to all the republicans on here, how would I materially benefit from the abolition of the monarchy?

well the Queen is the richest person in the world so if we sold off all of her land, houses and valuables then it would pay for a fair few new hospitals or reducing the national debt.

or their wealth could be shared equally and you would be approx £1k better off

I can't believe a single tourist would cease to come here because we don't have a monarch that they will never see anyway

Really? I mean, I don't get it myself either (I think Harry seems like a decent enough bloke so I wish him well but otherwise have zero interest in it all and can't see why anyone else would but never mind) but surely you can see, to take one example, that there are vast numbers of deranged Americans who will love this and will come over and spend money. And they do it all the time with or without weddings.

ballysmate

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

I will type slowly so that people can understand.
How does becoming a republic benefit me?
Not how does selling the Crown Estates benefit me.

dinyull

Ballysmate wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

I will type slowly so that people can understand.
How does becoming a republic benefit me?
Not how does selling the Crown Estates benefit me.

Sh*t, sorry.

I forgot that public services weren't getting cut to shreds. Schools aren't begging parents to pay for luxuries likes pens and pencils. Another another winter hospital crisis isn't looming.

I know I'd prefer £20b tied up in land and diamonds instead.

ballysmate

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

I will type slowly so that people can understand.
How does becoming a republic benefit me?
Not how does selling the Crown Estates benefit me.

Sh*t, sorry.

I forgot that public services weren't getting cut to shreds. Schools aren't begging parents to pay for luxuries likes pens and pencils. Another another winter hospital crisis isn't looming.

I know I'd prefer £20b tied up in land and diamonds instead.

Typing even more slowly now for you.
Sell the estates (85% of the return on which now go to the treasury anyway apparently), sell the crown jewels and divvy up the money if that is your wont. But you are still left with the Monarch as head of state..
All I asked is how does abolishing the Monarchy benefit me?

surrey_commuter

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

my first number was a branding agency making numbers up. Seems their wealth is nearer £30bn which would net you £500 plus asaving of about a quid a year in not funding them.

Write that on the side of a bus and they would be gonners

ballysmate

Have you a link to the £30 bn figure?

So having netted me £501 (less tax at the appropriate rate) I would still have a monarch. How does moving to a republic net me any more?

orraloon

Rolf F wrote:

..there are vast numbers of deranged Americans who will love this and will come over and spend money.

Wot? Vast numbers of deranged Yanquis will brave the no go areas of Londonistan? Has Covfefe-man taught them nothing?

rjsterry

Ballysmate wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

I will type slowly so that people can understand.
How does becoming a republic benefit me?
Not how does selling the Crown Estates benefit me.

Sh*t, sorry.

I forgot that public services weren't getting cut to shreds. Schools aren't begging parents to pay for luxuries likes pens and pencils. Another another winter hospital crisis isn't looming.

I know I'd prefer £20b tied up in land and diamonds instead.

Typing even more slowly now for you.
Sell the estates (85% of the return on which now go to the treasury anyway apparently), sell the crown jewels and divvy up the money if that is your wont. But you are still left with the Monarch as head of state..
All I asked is how does abolishing the Monarchy benefit me?

There's a lot of ranting about how awful it is that the head of state is chosen by hereditary principle. Given the last year or so, I'd have to say that my faith in the, err, wisdom of the masses has been somewhat shaken. Would we really want someone who puts themselves forward for the post?

bianchimoon

Ballysmate wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

I will type slowly so that people can understand.
How does becoming a republic benefit me?
Not how does selling the Crown Estates benefit me.

You'll get that lovely warm satisfied feeling knowing that Andrew won't be using tax payer helicopters to go and play golf and that fergie and the kids can't buy any more ski chalets in France (bet she voted Brexit as well)

bianchimoon

rjsterry wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Two issues are getting conflated. namely the Queen's wealth and the Monarchy.
I can see how sharing The Queen's wealth would net me a fiver, but how would abolishing the monarchy and becoming a republic net me anything?

I can see £20bn the county would benefit from in that BBC article alone.

And as SC says, people wouldn't stop coming because they are no more. See France.

I will type slowly so that people can understand.
How does becoming a republic benefit me?
Not how does selling the Crown Estates benefit me.

Sh*t, sorry.

I forgot that public services weren't getting cut to shreds. Schools aren't begging parents to pay for luxuries likes pens and pencils. Another another winter hospital crisis isn't looming.

I know I'd prefer £20b tied up in land and diamonds instead.

Typing even more slowly now for you.
Sell the estates (85% of the return on which now go to the treasury anyway apparently), sell the crown jewels and divvy up the money if that is your wont. But you are still left with the Monarch as head of state..
All I asked is how does abolishing the Monarchy benefit me?

There's a lot of ranting about how awful it is that the head of state is chosen by hereditary principle. Given the last year or so, I'd have to say that my faith in the, err, wisdom of the masses has been somewhat shaken. Would we really want someone who puts themselves forward for the post?

shirley, even voting for a head is better than having it sexually transmitted

bianchimoon

Ballysmate wrote:

Have you a link to the £30 bn figure?

So having netted me £501 (less tax at the appropriate rate) I would still have a monarch. How does moving to a republic net me any more?

me me me

ben@31

Ballysmate,

How would we benefit? It's the principle.

That institution is stuck in the dark ages, there's no place in the 21st century for an unelected hereditary monarch who is forced upon us and lives a wealthy privileged lifestyle while we all live in austerity.
Is Britain multi-cultural? Because we are not allowed to have a head of state from our other cultures. Not even Catholicism is allowed.

We don't truely know the cost of the monarchy, as for some reason their finances are the only thing excempt from the Freedom Of Information Act, ask yourself why is this ? Would they admit to being poor value for money ?
Then there's other budgets that have to pay for them, such as Police security, travel, state visits, renovation of their many homes, etc

Here's something for you to think about... all those other countries that have became a republic haven't gone back to being a monarchy. Surely that tells you something. (Spain went back to a Monarchy through violent force, when General Franco overthrew the democratically elected republic)
If we were to colonise a new planet today, would we have a monarchy? Where one person is unelected, never has to work (or contribute), yet gets to live a wealthier and more privileged lifestyle than everyone else ?

BelgianBeerGeek

Bet Harry's stag do will be fun. I wonder if it will involve fancy dress?

ben@31

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Bet Harry's stag do will be fun. I wonder if it will involve fancy dress?

Stag do in the Cayman Islands. Shooting swans and peasants

orraloon

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Bet Harry's stag do will be fun. I wonder if it will involve fancy dress?

I was thinking the Saxe-Coburg Germanic side of his genetics would influence his choice of dress (again), but then I remembered...

joe2008

ben@31 wrote:

If we were to colonise a new planet today, would we have a monarchy? Where one person is unelected, never has to work (or contribute), yet gets to live a wealthier and more privileged lifestyle than everyone else ?

I'm no Royalist, but they do work... I bet you're not still working at 95.

bianchimoon

joe2008 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

If we were to colonise a new planet today, would we have a monarchy? Where one person is unelected, never has to work (or contribute), yet gets to live a wealthier and more privileged lifestyle than everyone else ?

I'm no Royalist, but they do work... I bet you're not still working at 95.

I think your definition of work differs somewhat from mine

joe2008

bianchimoon wrote:

joe2008 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

If we were to colonise a new planet today, would we have a monarchy? Where one person is unelected, never has to work (or contribute), yet gets to live a wealthier and more privileged lifestyle than everyone else ?

I'm no Royalist, but they do work... I bet you're not still working at 95.

I think your definition of work differs somewhat from mine

Not every job is 9 to 5 down the pits. So by your definition, does a footballer 'work', or a cyclist for that matter.

"The Queen, who will be 90 in April, carried out 306 engagements in the UK and 35 abroad in 2015."

that sounds like hard work to me at 90.

dinyull

joe2008 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

If we were to colonise a new planet today, would we have a monarchy? Where one person is unelected, never has to work (or contribute), yet gets to live a wealthier and more privileged lifestyle than everyone else ?

I'm no Royalist, but they do work... I bet you're not still working at 95.

Out of interest, what work do they do?

Other than putting their names to charities? https://www.theguardian.com/voluntary-s ... -labour-mp

bianchimoon

joe2008 wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

joe2008 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

If we were to colonise a new planet today, would we have a monarchy? Where one person is unelected, never has to work (or contribute), yet gets to live a wealthier and more privileged lifestyle than everyone else ?

I'm no Royalist, but they do work... I bet you're not still working at 95.

I think your definition of work differs somewhat from mine

Not every job is 9 to 5 down the pits. So by your definition, does a footballer 'work', or a cyclist for that matter.

"The Queen, who will be 90 in April, carried out 306 engagements in the UK and 35 abroad in 2015."

that sounds like hard work to me at 90.

so do tell, if it's such hard work why hasn't she passed the baton to younger fitter members of the exclusive club? could it possibly be that it's perhaps not such hard work after all?

mr_goo

Excellent news everyone. .......

IT'S A WINDSOR WEDDING !


Anyhow. What the f**k is Harry doing marrying Markel. I thought she was Chancellor of Germany, and possibly married. Does her husband know? And is this a stealthy, fiendish German plot to subvert Brexit.

DeVlaeminck

Surrey Commuter wrote:

a very short piece of research would reveal that Harry does not want people hearing about his private life

His family's PR people obviously didn't get that memo

bianchimoon

Mr Goo wrote:

Excellent news everyone. .......

IT'S A WINDSOR WEDDING !


Anyhow. What the f**k is Harry doing marrying Markel. I thought she was Chancellor of Germany, and possibly married. Does her husband know? And is this a stealthy, fiendish German plot to subvert Brexit.

Jermans in the monarchaicy.. whatever next!