Zwift price increase
Zwift price increase to £12.99 per month for new subscribers,if like myself it stays at £8 for a year then goes up after that year as i joined early into zwift starting.
Is it worth £12.99?
Is it worth £12.99?
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But having said that my pricing will stick to £8 for the next 12 months.
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This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Wonder if TR will jack theirs up now, or whether their subscription numbers will increase substantially.
Also like the fact with TR you can simply suspend your membership, like if you go on holiday, but are unable to do that with Zwift I gather, you have to cancel and re-enrol.
TR and Eurosport player or bbc iplayer have served me well, so will continue with that if it ain't broke, and all that.
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It's a great concept but it has a price point.
I'm still in the group that has a year of the £8 per month left.
However, the amount of turbo boosting going on in races is unbelievable so , I've converted all my Sufferfests to Zwift format.. and fairly happy...combined with actually getting out and about on the road, winter training is on plan.
All the Zwift faux pros who kick off races at over 600 watts for 6 minutes can all go ..... ;-)
yeah .... I get more fun out of zwift, I am still in
Wednesday I rode alone in the group workout
Yesterday I rode the group workout without the workoutp art
Today I rode on Fulgaz because Zwift wouldn't let me in
Its not worth the current money due to issues its having !!!
i'd pay £12 a month for a reliable game though
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its not £5 increase though its £25 increase as you need to spen £20 a month on a standby riding game for when Zwift inevitably fails to log you in, or you cant join a ride etc etc etc
I would tend to agree with you - I've watched a lot of videos about it, and was very excited to try it, but as mentioned I think it would have been a bit of a faff for me, as although I have a lovely large screen laptop, with 8gb of ram, it's an old machine, and I doubt the graphics would have been up to it.
I partly fancied trying it, as I do think i migth like to try some actual racing next year, probably on the velodrome, so thought it could at least give me some kind of taste as to what that would be like, but the pricing structure is just too inflexible for me, and I am now reading there are plenty of bugs in it, like some courses not being available on certain days, and people saying to change course they need to completely exit the app, and then log back in again?
If they bought out a way you could simply pay for a month at a time, or even a week I might be tempted to give it a go, but I can't be @rsed with cancellations, and having to check refunds come through etc etc
I've had a LOT of success with TR since Jan this year, and their technical support, as well as Nick on here, have been superb, so I feel I owe them a degree of loyalty - I've completed the full suite of courses, (Base to Speciality) and have just completed the first mid volume base again - sadly I have a cold at the mo, so am trying to maintain my fitness until I am better, and can do myself justice in an FTP - very frustrating.
TR with TV program, or Eurosport player (Which is still bargainous in itself) is a great mix for me - I have no problems watching something whilst carrying out a hard workout - it's in ERG mode, I have no choice!
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according to their FB page, they ve server issues, code for havent invested in new tech as they ve grown, so i guess the price hike will lose some customers, keep their profit levels higher still and alleviate the tech limitations... win win! well, that ll be what they are hoping.
I mean, you'd think that as subscriber numbers increased that they could afford to keep pricing the same wouldn't you?
For me, I'd be more likely to play if they sold a £3/4 day pass anyway. I do 10 hours of commuting on my bike a week, and will always prefer to actually get out on my bike - I only zwift if time and childcare prevents me getting out for actual social rides.
Dropping £13 for a month when I'm only likely to actually ride a couple of times makes no sense for me.
If someone could get the whole package right, for it to be reliable, have better graphics, and far more courses, I expect they would dominate the market - and could probably charge the same as this if not more. Can't be long surely?
They have a pretty big market out there (What with the number of people with trainers now), not like it's a whole new innovation they have to sell.
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road grand tours for famous rides people want to do
Bkool for racing and rides and stuff
both are not witout their issues ... although in the fairness to RGT it is in Beta
Had not seen RGT at all - just tried to register for the Beta, see if they will offer me an account or not - looks interesting potentially.
Am I right in thinking that Zwift only has 4-5 different routes? That also put me off.
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RGT does bulk activation so you will get access sometime between now and next month depending on when they set the accounts up.
Zwft has 3 locales Watopia, London and Richmond that are played depending on the calendar ..... within each locale there are various different loops you can ride and pin together ... it can take you a few hours to get round Watopia . But due to the amount of people riding it doesnt actually get dull as there are always people to interact with. Even if you dont want to race having someone just up the road does make you push harder to catch them up .. its like commuting .. then there is the whole workout, group workout, racing and group rides to do. I have no issues paying the new price IF they sort the reliability out quick !
I have done TR in the past and their plans were excellent - but you have to have the mindset to work with it.
In contrast Zwift takes your mind off things and it really does resemble an outdoor ride.
I do think Zwift was underpriced anyway - I wonder if they've put the prices up to give themselves a year to adapt to the influx of riders ? I'd heard they were struggling to cope of late. This seems like a strategy to avoid that.
In a years time when I have to pay the increase there may be other programs out there anyway = so I'll not worry about that.
As to there being only a few courses currently - they always want them to feel busy - riding on a deserted road isnt really the point of Zwift - its the jumping onto wheels of real riders - so thats why they restrict the options.
I think they have plans to recreate the key points of L'etape each year soon though - the president of ASO is a keen Zwifter apparently.
Bkool has options way over zwift - and you can ride to video too - but having so many options does limit the number of riders on a circuit. That said - they're pushing more group rides via their facebook feeds atm.
Problem I have with group rides is that I'm never there at hte time they start - I've got a busy schedule that involves a squiddle who has his own timetable - which he generally doesn't let you know till after the event
but - sounds like I'm going to stick with Bkool for now - Zwift looks "fun" because of all the other riders - but in reality - I'm there to work on specifics - which is far better served with a targetted session rather going around chasing virtual riders.
It can mean, race, work with, ride with, chat to, try to catch up and over take, try not to get overtaken by.
Its not like a bot that does its thing, being another person means your presence in the game at the point of meeting them can inevitably change the way they ride towards you.
Even if they do nothing differently as they are following a planned workout, the interaction of coming across that rider and being able to ease off for a bit whilst using the draft for a minute to catch your breath before pressing on.
Or they come past you (as more often happens with me) and you can jump on there wheel and get a tow for a while before running out of steam and loosing the draft
I thought £8 a month was just about acceptable but whilst £4 doesn't sound much more for what you get i think it is now overpriced.
If you have mates on Zwift then you could chat quite happily over headsets.
Thanks FD - liking the look of RGT a lot, looks like it has a lot of potential.
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Yup me too - like the look of RGT - signed up and awaiting a code 8)
Perhaps I will see you on there then Rab, guess I will recognise you by your string vest kit :-)
I'll be the one in black and yellow or green and yellow - assuming you can spec kit colour of course.......
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