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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    larkim wrote:
    I don't know enough about the drug to comment whether you'd "need" it throughout the GT to sustain the weight loss advantages, but that would surprise me.

    isnt the problem in a GT though that the riders are burning so many calories every day, and basically only eating one major meal, its actually harder to keep the weight up, rather than keep it off, not saying they get to eat steak every night, but I thought that was a big issue trying to eat enough to keep going
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    awavey wrote:
    larkim wrote:
    I don't know enough about the drug to comment whether you'd "need" it throughout the GT to sustain the weight loss advantages, but that would surprise me.

    isnt the problem in a GT though that the riders are burning so many calories every day, and basically only eating one major meal, its actually harder to keep the weight up, rather than keep it off, not saying they get to eat steak every night, but I thought that was a big issue trying to eat enough to keep going

    Depends.

    Some riders gain weight.
    _
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Well, those who were looking forward to Freeman speaking will be disappointed. He's confirmed he prescribed Wiggins medication, the Jiffy bag contained Flumicil, he didn't prescribe anything he didn't feel was needed and was never put under pressure to do so. He also said he'd prescribe it again in the same situation as part of an holistic approach. So much for the scorned doctor thrown under a bus getting his revenge.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Pross wrote:
    Well, those who were looking forward to Freeman speaking will be disappointed. He's confirmed he prescribed Wiggins medication, the Jiffy bag contained Flumicil, he didn't prescribe anything he didn't feel was needed and was never put under pressure to do so. He also said he'd prescribe it again in the same situation as part of an holistic approach. So much for the scorned doctor thrown under a bus getting his revenge.

    Yeah but he's just covering his own back and sky have paid to shut him up init.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,272
    I note Dan Roan is on the case again. Is there a cycling event significant to the wider media in the near future? Icarus 2, go on, giz a role, go on, go on, giz it...
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    orraloon wrote:
    I note Dan Roan is on the case again. Is there a cycling event significant to the wider media in the near future? Icarus 2, go on, giz a role, go on, go on, giz it...

    He's been in Russia. He must have realised that creating a scandal there will likely result in his death.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    gsk82 wrote:
    orraloon wrote:
    I note Dan Roan is on the case again. Is there a cycling event significant to the wider media in the near future? Icarus 2, go on, giz a role, go on, go on, giz it...

    He's been in Russia. He must have realised that creating a scandal there will likely result in his death.
    There's no scandal in Russia. Despite fears everyone is welcoming to gay and black people. Just don't come back next month.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    This hasn't been posted yet, but Matthew Syed's interview with Dr Freeman is very revealing. It paints Sutton as basically an a-hole, puts the whole jiffy bag think down to a falling out between Sutton and Wiggins* over Range Rover.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its- ... -08nf8zxj9

    It's funny that Syed, seen as a Braislford apologist has got a better interview out of him that Poundshop Paxman Dan Roan.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Heh, poundshop paxman. Bet he loves that one.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    RichN95 wrote:
    This hasn't been posted yet, but Matthew Syed's interview with Dr Freeman is very revealing. It paints Sutton as basically an a-hole, puts the whole jiffy bag think down to a falling out between Sutton and Wiggins* over Range Rover.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its- ... -08nf8zxj9

    It's funny that Syed, seen as a Braislford apologist has got a better interview out of him that Poundshop Paxman Dan Roan.

    Funny that the Brailsford apologist wrote a piece supportive of sky?
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Bloody paywalls... I'll have to settle for the Poundshop Paxman
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Bloody paywalls... I'll have to settle for the Poundshop Paxman
    I thought it was firewall free as I'd seen it in full. Turns out it was my free article of the week so I couldn't read Dickenson's Froome interview today.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    I tell you what I would find funny. If Dan Roan, Matt Lawton, Martha Kelner etc were all called back from Russia to cover the Grand Depart instead of England v Sweden.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    Hard to know if Tucker will be more annoyed about what is said or just that Syed did the interview....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    ddraver wrote:
    Hard to know if Tucker will be more annoyed about what is said or just that Syed did the interview....
    Whichever opinion gets the most publicity.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    RichN95 wrote:
    I tell you what I would find funny. If Dan Roan, Matt Lawton, Martha Kelner etc were all called back from Russia to cover the Grand Depart instead of England v Sweden.

    What's the Grand Depart? X
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    I tell you what I would find funny. If Dan Roan, Matt Lawton, Martha Kelner etc were all called back from Russia to cover the Grand Depart instead of England v Sweden.

    What's the Grand Depart? X

    It's when the English players get on the bus to the airport on Sunday morning.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RichN95 wrote:
    It paints Sutton as basically an a-hole

    This seems to be a common view of Sutton.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Does anyone know what Wiggins is on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -jiffy-bag
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Does anyone know what Wiggins is on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -jiffy-bag

    Purely guessing, but since we don't know who the mole was yet it could well be about who that was and what their motivation was. I imagine there could be some non-doping related salacious details
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Does anyone know what Wiggins is on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -jiffy-bag

    Purely guessing, but since we don't know who the mole was yet it could well be about who that was and what their motivation was. I imagine there could be some non-doping related salacious details
    Hasn't it been established that the mole is Shane Sutton who fell out with Wiggins when he didn't buy him a Range Rover
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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    RichN95 wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Does anyone know what Wiggins is on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -jiffy-bag

    Purely guessing, but since we don't know who the mole was yet it could well be about who that was and what their motivation was. I imagine there could be some non-doping related salacious details
    Hasn't it been established that the mole is Shane Sutton who fell out with Wiggins when he didn't buy him a Range Rover
    Lol the pro doping sky blower cant let it lie

    Rich is there anyone who doesnt like Sky that has any credibility??? LOLOLOL what a loser
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Does anyone know what Wiggins is on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -jiffy-bag

    Purely guessing, but since we don't know who the mole was yet it could well be about who that was and what their motivation was. I imagine there could be some non-doping related salacious details
    Hasn't it been established that the mole is Shane Sutton who fell out with Wiggins when he didn't buy him a Range Rover
    Lol the pro doping sky blower cant let it lie

    Rich is there anyone who doesnt like Sky that has any credibility??? LOLOLOL what a loser

    Seems like you can't let it lie either. Just because someone doesn't share your beliefs doesn't mean they can't have their say.
    Everyone is so entrenched on the subject it's pointless debating it, though it would be nice to just enjoy the racing.
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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    we probably could but it doesnt help when one of the main protagonists involved, starts talking about it all again.and without a book to shift it seems, but in a way that sounds even crazier than some of the fan conspiracy theories.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    RichN95 wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Does anyone know what Wiggins is on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -jiffy-bag

    Purely guessing, but since we don't know who the mole was yet it could well be about who that was and what their motivation was. I imagine there could be some non-doping related salacious details
    Hasn't it been established that the mole is Shane Sutton who fell out with Wiggins when he didn't buy him a Range Rover

    I think I must have missed that.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Does anyone know what Wiggins is on about?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... -jiffy-bag

    Purely guessing, but since we don't know who the mole was yet it could well be about who that was and what their motivation was. I imagine there could be some non-doping related salacious details
    Hasn't it been established that the mole is Shane Sutton who fell out with Wiggins when he didn't buy him a Range Rover

    I think I must have missed that.
    Recent interview with Richard Freeman
    “I felt for Sutton,” Freeman said. “He’d lost [his role at] British Cycling, he’d fallen out with Bradley, there was some bust-up about a promised Range Rover or something, it didn’t come. Then there was a bust-up between Shane and Cath Wiggins. If you fall out with someone’s wife, that’s the kiss of death.

    “So Shane sends me messages: ‘A reporter knows you gave triamcinolone on the back of the bus.’ I thought, ‘Woah, this is [a] set-up’, so I’m not even going to answer the phone, I put him on block. Then a reporter doorstepped [the physio] Phil Burt. I’ve seen Phil Burt’s statement to UK Anti-Doping [Ukad], he told them it was Fluimucil.”

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-wa ... -672rvfrlw
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