Las Vegas
crispybug2
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BBC is reporting that there over 50 dead following a mass shooting at a music festival on the main strip!
It's reported that the gunman is a 64 year old local resident who was shot dead
A large cache of arms was found in his room at the Mandalay Bay hotel
This is the largest mass shooting in American history and it's worth noting that the state of Nevada has some of least stringent gun laws in America
It's reported that the gunman is a 64 year old local resident who was shot dead
A large cache of arms was found in his room at the Mandalay Bay hotel
This is the largest mass shooting in American history and it's worth noting that the state of Nevada has some of least stringent gun laws in America
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If it was a Muslim doing the shooting there'd be hell to pay.
America needs to sort itself out - but can't with that clown in charge. Remember when Obama tried to bring in gun control ?
No way back.
Sorry if that sounds trite but the whole thing is way beyond ridiculous. They believe so firmly in their right to bear arms they just cannot see reason. They are quite simply too pig ignorant. If anyone can give me a good reason that a private individual needs an automatic weapon I will eat my words, personally I can't see it.
Desperately sad for all involved, but it was entirely preventable if there was any will to change.
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That kind of misses the point that such weapons and ammunition are readily available. Even allowing for the supposed 'constitutional right' to bear arms some states are way more lax in their controls than others. I assume there have been studies showing correlation between lax regulations and mass shootings, it would be interesting to see.
From memory Trump's defence last time was to come out shouting about how the lack of guns in the UK left us vulnerable to terrorist attacks even though far more people die in shootings in the US than terrorism in the US and Europe put together (even with the numerous attacks in the last 18 months).
Are they? That depends on what sort of weapon it was.
"So predictable, without the facts the left is assing up against #nra and blaming guns for the Las Vegas shootings "
Honestly words f*cking fail me!
Clearly still too stringent.
I can't say i'm hugely surprised, i'm sure Trump will come out with something similar soon enough.
He has already offered his warmest sympathies, whatever that means?!
There's other things you can get that over here are banned. Shotgun rounds that fire out special projectiles. From turning the shotgun into a flamethrower to two linked ball bearings that spin around and can cut through a fence post or leg. Plus loads of other exotics.
Americans really can get some interesting weaponry. The shotgun pellets are available mail order from shooting and hunting magazine ads BTW.
Texas and Nevada are pretty lax states wrt guns. Others are more strict. It's a lottery really. The same work colleague was in Texas for business and went into a restaurant in town / city. The cloakroom wasn't just for coats but also cowboy hats, spurs, shotguns, rifles and handguns. He got asked for his guns but n didn't have any obviously. The lass behind the counter seemed surprised. Seems most in that expensive restaurant had handguns to check in, many had rifles as well. The spurs thing made me laugh. Apparently he saw men getting out of big trucks in an urban location wearing spurs. I think he said the spurs were blunt so they didn't cut things up.
I have never been to Texas but quite a few I've worked with in the past have. I've spoken to enough native Texans in the past to believe more than half the stories my colleagues told me. They're nuts by UK standards!
Nevada natives I can fully believe are almost as bad.
My family partly came from Michigan, they all seemed fairly normal. I think it's the southern states, mid western and western states that are worst.
No, the NRA are still silent. Once it was proved that the gun was not held legally, they will come out and say that the gun control laws are already strict enough.
That's just a supporter (who yesterday was having a go at the Puerto Rico mayor and the NFL).
Not really, about the only restriction on weapon type under Nevada laws as far as I understand it is a minimum length of a barrel or overall weapon. Even machine guns are allowed subject to the Federal law which seems to be nothing manufactured after 1986. Pretty much any Nevada resident with Nevada ID can just walk into a gun store and buy any legal weapon subject to a very cursory check that they are not ineligible which amounts to being legally in the country and not being a criminal (to simplify slightly).
Just compare USA with Canada and you have your answer.
Dad worked in Galveston a few years back. Texas is f*cking mental.
Sent me a pic from a supermarket of someone carrying an assault rifle like it was nothing.
The locals he worked with used to take him to a backstreet bar when they'd regularly be shooting beer cans/bottles or vermin in the beer garden.
Was warned not to go into certain areas at certain times...apparently because the latinos usually get into arguments when they've had too much tequila and they're usually settled with the gun.
Source I was quoting was BBC News 24
Sure but I'm fairly sure ISIS would also claim the monster sh!t my colleague did this morning if they knew the damage it was causing.
Doesn't mean it has anything to do with it.
Trump will seize on it as fact though (the shooting, not the monster censored although he might blame them for that too).
Or the vermin shoot. Factory gets a vermin problem it's easily sorted. Beer and pump action shotguns. One line and shoot anything that moves in front of you. Only don't get ahead of the line! The shoot is likely after a BBQ and a load of cans. It sounded like ppl weren't seeing things straight by the time of the vermin clearance.
Skunk clearance? Big censored shotgun / in a calibre (is that right word?) that's not allowed in the UK. Shock and awe. It's easier to clean up skunk blood / residue than skunk spray. Besides it's likely not to be recognizable as an animal after a few quick shots in confined quarters.
No, nothing mental about Texans and guns at all. I've heard Nevada ppl aren't much better but never spoken to any to find out.
Well, in your mind perhaps, but they don't have a record of claiming everything.
I agree in this case it seems odd and unlikely purely by the age and ethnicity of the perpetrator not fitting the normal pattern at first glance.
If (at least) 500 injured in the space of 5-10 mins doesn't do it I don't think anything will.
Sandy Hook didn't do sh!t.
Why would this be different?
If 50+ are dead and another 500 are injured you can bet that there are many more to die yet.
I know the affect of children plays it's part, but this is totally unprecedented.
I know nothing happened after florida and san bernardino, but this can't be laid at the door of ISIS like those were/are over there.