Vuelta 2017:Stage 20: Corvera de Asturias - Alto de l'Angliru 117.5KM *Spoilers*

specialgueststar

wow - that's how to end an era!

yourpaceormine

Official results, and jersey classifications show the 26 still in the race.

iainf72

Today go down in history. As the day Carlton cried during the commentary.

I'm not a fan of the super steep stuff as it doesn't produce particularly great racing IMO.

I suppose it was fitting that Bert won, but he was lucky that Nibali was a bit pony today. If it had kicked off between him and Froome earlier it would've been curtains.

Quite a decent race overall.

yourpaceormine

iainf72 wrote:

If it had kicked off between him and Froome earlier it would've been curtains.

Use of the term "curtains" was retired with Karpets

iainf72

yourpaceormine wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

If it had kicked off between him and Froome earlier it would've been curtains.

Use of the term "curtains" was retired with Karpets

As I typed that I did think "for Karpets"

heh

tim000

iainf72 wrote:

yourpaceormine wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

If it had kicked off between him and Froome earlier it would've been curtains.

Use of the term "curtains" was retired with Karpets

As I typed that I did think "for Karpets"

heh

pull yourself together

rick_chasey

Does anyone have a clip of Carlton crying?

RichN95.

I have to say I missed Carlton crying. Why?

The only other commentator I can remember crying was Murray Walker when Damon Hill won the World Championship - but they had known each other for a long time. Does Froome even know who Kirby is?

iainf72

RichN95 wrote:

I have to say I missed Carlton crying. Why?

The only other commentator I can remember crying was Murray Walker when Damon Hill won the World Championship - but they had known each other for a long time. Does Froome even know who Kirby is?

Oh man. When he realised Bert was going to win, he just went all choked up.
Although, unsurprisingly, some think he was getting like that because Froome had ridden away from the others with Poels. But it clearly wasn't that.

bobbydazzla

Carlton The Moron's commentary is so horrifically painful it often makes me want to cry.

RichN95.

iainf72 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

I have to say I missed Carlton crying. Why?

The only other commentator I can remember crying was Murray Walker when Damon Hill won the World Championship - but they had known each other for a long time. Does Froome even know who Kirby is?

Oh man. When he realised Bert was going to win, he just went all choked up.
Although, unsurprisingly, some think he was getting like that because Froome had ridden away from the others with Poels. But it clearly wasn't that.

Oh, I assumed it was Froome 'winning' that made him cry.

Yeah, Sky had sod all interest in Contador as long as the gap was sensible. Poels only hit the front once Nibali started going backwards (courtesy of Zakarin)

hypster

Blazing Saddles wrote:

26 riders finished outside the time limit, including the KoM winner Villella and only person who can still beat Froome for the points jersey, Trentin.

Whistles and walks away.......

Well if the KoM can't even make it up the final climb of the shortest road stage of the tour inside the time limit it's piss poor in my opinion and doesn't deserve the jersey. Lopez has been the better real climber anyway, not just hoovering up easy points.

blazing_saddles

Seems like a young woman was killed today, descending over la Cueña les Cabres.

Vino'sGhost

carlton was crying cause he knows its the end of an era. Probably the end of his commentatiing career that is after announcing for five minutes that bertie was dropped when he was off the front Cringeworthy.

I do like him and Sean though. good fun.

salsiccia1

iainf72 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

I have to say I missed Carlton crying. Why?

The only other commentator I can remember crying was Murray Walker when Damon Hill won the World Championship - but they had known each other for a long time. Does Froome even know who Kirby is?

Oh man. When he realised Bert was going to win, he just went all choked up.
Although, unsurprisingly, some think he was getting like that because Froome had ridden away from the others with Poels. But it clearly wasn't that.

I'm not a big fan of his commentary but I don't blame him for getting emotional. He obviously loves the sport and obviously loves Contador. It's the end of an era. And don't forget he and Kelly have been following the race round for 3 weeks, staying in worse hotels than the riders, probably exhausted, so it's not a surprise he was a bit overwhelmed by what was a pretty momentous occasion.

mrb123

Just been watching the ITV highlights after seeing the race live on Eurosport this afternoon. Predictably David Millar didn't think Contador had been dropped after he made the most predictable cycling attack of all time.

Pross

Superb ride by Contador and a thoroughly deserved win, proper fairy tale stuff. The only thing that could better would be if he sneaked some seconds tomorrow and got on the podium and the way he's riding at the moment I wouldn't put it past him. True Champion some might say!

Excellent ride by Froome and Poels too though I suspect even they realised winning the stage might not be a good idea. A couple of ropey days for Froome but I never felt he was in as much trouble as some were saying.

I know some criticise the super steep gradients but I think today showed that if the riders have their gearing set up properly it's a good test of climbing ability.

kingstonian

Those of you that endure Carlton deserve a medal. I much prefer ITV. Guess it helps I'm usually only able to watch the highlights in the evening and ITV4 repeats are easily available on their app.

larkim

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Seems like a young woman was killed today, descending over la Cueña les Cabres.

Sadly seems an accurate report. http://www.planetatriatlon.com/fallece- ... o-angliru/

mrfpb

There's talk of Nibali cracking some ribs when he crashed. What's the likelihood of him not starting tomorrow?

Pross

mrfpb wrote:

There's talk of Nibali cracking some ribs when he crashed. What's the likelihood of him not starting tomorrow?

He'll ride, Luke Rowe did virtually the whole Tour this year with broken ribs - Nibali won't pass up a podium because of them with one relatively easy stage left.

RichN95.

mrfpb wrote:

There's talk of Nibali cracking some ribs when he crashed. What's the likelihood of him not starting tomorrow?

I've cracked by ribs before, it's not that bad.. If he can get up Angliru, he can do a couple of laps of Madrid.

rick_chasey

RichN95 wrote:

mrfpb wrote:

There's talk of Nibali cracking some ribs when he crashed. What's the likelihood of him not starting tomorrow?

I've cracked by ribs before, it's not that bad.. If he can get up Angliru, he can do a couple of laps of Madrid.

Careful with that chat; last time I said that, I got shot down rather.

RichN95.

Rick Chasey wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

mrfpb wrote:

There's talk of Nibali cracking some ribs when he crashed. What's the likelihood of him not starting tomorrow?

I've cracked by ribs before, it's not that bad.. If he can get up Angliru, he can do a couple of laps of Madrid.

Careful with that chat; last time I said that, I got shot down rather.

Was I the one doing the shooting? It's quite possible.

mfin

Carlton K is an absolute f-ing idiot.

Hopefully that's the end of Contador as promised.

Froome's getting older and was looking a bit more beatable this year, certainly this win wouldn't have been anywhere near guaranteed without him having the strongest team.

It's such a cold win though, as good as he is on the bike he's lacks any charm and warmth off it, this and being the face of a soulless corporate winning machine only loved by people equally void of personality doesn't help.

The achievement feels like nothing more than a passing statistic as far as emotional engagement goes.

Glad he did it though, and such a cool thing that Contador will be off the screens at least here in the UK. Cheat.

Vino'sGhost

mfin wrote:

Carlton K is an absolute f-ing idiot.

Hopefully that's the end of Contador as promised.

Froome's getting older and was looking a bit more beatable this year, certainly this win wouldn't have been anywhere near guaranteed without him having the strongest team.

It's such a cold win though, as good as he is on the bike he's lacks any charm and warmth off it, this and being the face of a soulless corporate winning machine only loved by people equally void of personality doesn't help.

The achievement feels like nothing more than a passing statistic as far as emotional engagement goes.

Glad he did it though, and such a cool thing that Contador will be off the screens at least here in the UK. Cheat.

Presumably you like the cheating turd millar better? In fact why even watch a sport where there are cheats?

rick_chasey

Vino'sGhost wrote:

mfin wrote:

Carlton K is an absolute f-ing idiot.

Hopefully that's the end of Contador as promised.

Froome's getting older and was looking a bit more beatable this year, certainly this win wouldn't have been anywhere near guaranteed without him having the strongest team.

It's such a cold win though, as good as he is on the bike he's lacks any charm and warmth off it, this and being the face of a soulless corporate winning machine only loved by people equally void of personality doesn't help.

The achievement feels like nothing more than a passing statistic as far as emotional engagement goes.

Glad he did it though, and such a cool thing that Contador will be off the screens at least here in the UK. Cheat.

Presumably you like the cheating turd millar better? In fact why even watch a sport where there are cheats?

What does him taking EPO have to do with the quality of his commentary and punditry? Seriously.

rick_chasey

RichN95 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

mrfpb wrote:

There's talk of Nibali cracking some ribs when he crashed. What's the likelihood of him not starting tomorrow?

I've cracked by ribs before, it's not that bad.. If he can get up Angliru, he can do a couple of laps of Madrid.

Careful with that chat; last time I said that, I got shot down rather.

Was I the one doing the shooting? It's quite possible.

viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=13081888&p=20185962&hilit=ribs#p20185962

salsiccia1

mfin wrote:

Carlton K is an absolute f-ing idiot.

Hopefully that's the end of Contador as promised.

Froome's getting older and was looking a bit more beatable this year, certainly this win wouldn't have been anywhere near guaranteed without him having the strongest team.

It's such a cold win though, as good as he is on the bike he's lacks any charm and warmth off it, this and being the face of a soulless corporate winning machine only loved by people equally void of personality doesn't help.

The achievement feels like nothing more than a passing statistic as far as emotional engagement goes.

Glad he did it though, and such a cool thing that Contador will be off the screens at least here in the UK. Cheat.

Nice to see someone enjoy their sport so much

type:epyt

How squiggly is the line between Nibali's off and Contador suddenly being 40s up the road?

The lack off moto/pictures with Contador at those precise moments is something of a mystery given today's coverage ...