Di2

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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    RoubaixMB wrote:
    Hi MRS I am considering the external option too - would be great to see some pics.

    Cool - I'll see what I can do. I have some pics from when I did it but you can't see the installation at all (which, I suppose, is the desired effect)
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    meanredspider wrote:
    RoubaixMB wrote:
    Hi MRS I am considering the external option too - would be great to see some pics.

    Cool - I'll see what I can do. I have some pics from when I did it but you can't see the installation at all (which, I suppose, is the desired effect)

    As my house eBay clear out continues I seem to have ordered a 6870 upgrade kit. Photos of the installation would be excellent if you could....
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    davis wrote:
    OK, I'm considering this for my partner's bike. She's of limited mechanical sympathy and can't often see which gear she's in.... (It's a reason, ok?).

    What are the sizes of the shifters like? She's got tiny hands and she's currently only really OK with Campag Veloce which I built up into a strangely functional Shimergo frankenbike. Would consider SRAM/Shimano/Campagnolo but hand size really is the limiting factor - Ultegra calipers and KoolStop salmons operated by modified Campagnolo shifters were the only way I could get her decent braking control!

    The Ultegra I have are 'standard' size, not sure if that helps. Looking on youtube it appears they are adjustable to a degree, in terms of reach and brake lever 'travel'.

    That is a cool Leftfield profile pic btw.
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  • davis
    davis Posts: 2,506
    meursault wrote:
    davis wrote:
    OK, I'm considering this for my partner's bike. She's of limited mechanical sympathy and can't often see which gear she's in.... (It's a reason, ok?).

    What are the sizes of the shifters like? She's got tiny hands and she's currently only really OK with Campag Veloce which I built up into a strangely functional Shimergo frankenbike. Would consider SRAM/Shimano/Campagnolo but hand size really is the limiting factor - Ultegra calipers and KoolStop salmons operated by modified Campagnolo shifters were the only way I could get her decent braking control!

    The Ultegra I have are 'standard' size, not sure if that helps. Looking on youtube it appears they are adjustable to a degree, in terms of reach and brake lever 'travel'.

    That is a cool Leftfield profile pic btw.

    Thanks man - Think the only way will be to wait for someone with Campagnolo EPS to roll past... I think the Ultegra stuff has been declared "enormous" (suit me fine but then I'm grown-up sized).
    Sometimes parts break. Sometimes you crash. Sometimes it’s your fault.
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Ok. So I've fitted all the bits except that I don't have a seat post adapter so that's enroute. Anyway, before I set it up I thought I'd update the firmware using etubes.

    I can't seem to get the junction box to go into Bluetooth mode tough. Any tips?
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Is the junction box BT-enabled?
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Asprilla wrote:
    Ok. So I've fitted all the bits except that I don't have a seat post adapter so that's enroute. Anyway, before I set it up I thought I'd update the firmware using etubes.

    I can't seem to get the junction box to go into Bluetooth mode tough. Any tips?

    When I was buying it was just the extra wireless box (WU111) or the mtb xtr lcd (sorry too many tla) screen (M9051) with gear selection etc which allowed bluetooth or ant+. You just need to plug your bike into the BCR2 charger and the other end of the charger into a USB on your pc. The standard junction boxes were not wireless in any way
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    meanredspider wrote:
    Is the junction box BT-enabled?

    It appears not. I assumed since it came with the battery required for BT the rest would be BT enabled.

    Stupid me.

    Fair enough, I'll have to plug the laptop into it.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • j_mcd
    j_mcd Posts: 473
    Bearing in mind I've decided to bite the bullet on this one, anyone have any idea where I can actually buy a decent priced Di2 groupset. Most places seem to be out of stock (due to the upcoming new version releases I guess).
    Giant Defy Advanced 0 - Best
    Planet X London Road - Wet
    Montague Fit - Foldy thing that rarely gets used these days
  • j_mcd
    j_mcd Posts: 473
    Groupset being fitted by the LBS today. First ride will be home tonight.

    I expect to be faster than ever...
    Giant Defy Advanced 0 - Best
    Planet X London Road - Wet
    Montague Fit - Foldy thing that rarely gets used these days
  • roubaixmb
    roubaixmb Posts: 182
    What did you get and where from?
  • j_mcd
    j_mcd Posts: 473
    I got the full Ultegra Di2 groupset from Merlin cycles. Not the best deal I've seen (I have seen it for 800 quid before) but stock is obviously getting low as they get ready for the next iteration.

    Had a hard grind into the wind last night but the set up seems nice. I'm a little dubious about the paddles being big enough if wearing thick winter gloves though.

    I guess the solution to that is to buy a new Winter bike, PX London Road maybe...
    Giant Defy Advanced 0 - Best
    Planet X London Road - Wet
    Montague Fit - Foldy thing that rarely gets used these days
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    J_MCD wrote:
    I'm a little dubious about the paddles being big enough if wearing thick winter gloves though.

    I hear people say this and I can't understand it. The "paddles" are significantly stepped and (relatively) huge. I've never once pressed a different one from the one I was planning in whatever gloves (including lobsters over winters) I was wearing. On the hoods, your fingers drop in line with the shifters anyway. Middle finger for front shifter and ring finger for rear.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • j_mcd
    j_mcd Posts: 473
    Bit of a resurrection here but...

    Wore my PX lobsters on the commute this morning. Hands were warm but there were a hell of a lot of wrong shifts. Very easy to shift down in them but a lot more care needed to shift up!
    Giant Defy Advanced 0 - Best
    Planet X London Road - Wet
    Montague Fit - Foldy thing that rarely gets used these days
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    J_MCD wrote:
    Bit of a resurrection here but...

    Wore my PX lobsters on the commute this morning. Hands were warm but there were a hell of a lot of wrong shifts. Very easy to shift down in them but a lot more care needed to shift up!

    Switch to full synchro; right hand up, left hand down.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • j_mcd
    j_mcd Posts: 473
    Asprilla wrote:
    J_MCD wrote:
    Bit of a resurrection here but...

    Wore my PX lobsters on the commute this morning. Hands were warm but there were a hell of a lot of wrong shifts. Very easy to shift down in them but a lot more care needed to shift up!

    Switch to full synchro; right hand up, left hand down.

    I was going to just buy some better gloves...
    Giant Defy Advanced 0 - Best
    Planet X London Road - Wet
    Montague Fit - Foldy thing that rarely gets used these days
  • greenamex2
    greenamex2 Posts: 272
    Asprilla wrote:
    J_MCD wrote:
    Bit of a resurrection here but...

    Wore my PX lobsters on the commute this morning. Hands were warm but there were a hell of a lot of wrong shifts. Very easy to shift down in them but a lot more care needed to shift up!

    Switch to full synchro; right hand up, left hand down.

    That is my plan!

    Plus electrically heated gloves (I have circulation problems, to the point that I have had frostbite...in this country...in the south!)
  • indyp
    indyp Posts: 735
    The Craft lobster gloves I have allow shifting without any problems.... Siberia I think they are but few years old now. I guess depends on how much wiggle room there is for fingers to move about. Will be going back to mechanical from this weekend and through the winter though.
  • milemuncher1
    milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    Di2 is great, until you forget to charge the battery before a long ride, and don’t have a spare.
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    J_MCD wrote:
    Wore my PX lobsters on the commute this morning. Hands were warm but there were a hell of a lot of wrong shifts. Very easy to shift down in them but a lot more care needed to shift up!
    You soon get used to it. Unless you go out in boxing gloves it stops being an issue v quickly.
    Milemuncher1 wrote:
    Di2 is great, until you forget to charge the battery before a long ride, and don’t have a spare.
    They take v little time to get a decent amount of charge in, so 10 minutes or so while you finish getting ready would be more than adequate for a 'long ride'.
  • milemuncher1
    milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    CiB wrote:
    J_MCD wrote:
    Wore my PX lobsters on the commute this morning. Hands were warm but there were a hell of a lot of wrong shifts. Very easy to shift down in them but a lot more care needed to shift up!
    You soon get used to it. Unless you go out in boxing gloves it stops being an issue v quickly.
    Milemuncher1 wrote:
    Di2 is great, until you forget to charge the battery before a long ride, and don’t have a spare.
    They take v little time to get a decent amount of charge in, so 10 minutes or so while you finish getting ready would be more than adequate for a 'long ride'.
    Depends how long.
  • Brakeless
    Brakeless Posts: 865
    Milemuncher1 wrote:
    CiB wrote:
    J_MCD wrote:
    Wore my PX lobsters on the commute this morning. Hands were warm but there were a hell of a lot of wrong shifts. Very easy to shift down in them but a lot more care needed to shift up!
    You soon get used to it. Unless you go out in boxing gloves it stops being an issue v quickly.
    Milemuncher1 wrote:
    Di2 is great, until you forget to charge the battery before a long ride, and don’t have a spare.
    They take v little time to get a decent amount of charge in, so 10 minutes or so while you finish getting ready would be more than adequate for a 'long ride'.
    Depends how long.

    It would actually depend more on the terrain. On a flat ride where you're only using a few gears you could get a lot further than on a hilly ride where you are using them all.

    Do you ever post anything you actually know something about ?
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    Brakeless wrote:
    Do you ever post anything you actually know something about ?
    Who, me? No. I have no clue about all this and even less interest these days. But complaining about gloves merited a response, so did the vague assertion that it's necessary to charge it up to do a long ride. If the ride was 3 months long it might be, but there's a sliding scale of how much charge you might need to add, how far you're going and how much use the gears get. So there.

    Happy Christmas dude. xx
    :)
  • Brakeless
    Brakeless Posts: 865
    CiB wrote:
    Brakeless wrote:
    Do you ever post anything you actually know something about ?
    Who, me? No. I have no clue about all this and even less interest these days. But complaining about gloves merited a response, so did the vague assertion that it's necessary to charge it up to do a long ride. If the ride was 3 months long it might be, but there's a sliding scale of how much charge you might need to add, how far you're going and how much use the gears get. So there.

    Happy Christmas dude. xx
    :)

    Not to you. To the muncher bloke.
  • spasypaddy
    spasypaddy Posts: 5,180
    finally after 5 years my di2 rear mech has died. :( 10 speed so hard to get a new one.
    BMC TM01 - FCN 0
    Look 695 (Geared) - FCN 1
    Bowman Palace:R - FCN 1
    Cannondale CAAD 9 - FCN 2
    Premier (CX) - FCN 6
    Premier (fixed/SS) - FCN3
  • milemuncher1
    milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    Brakeless wrote:
    CiB wrote:
    Brakeless wrote:
    Do you ever post anything you actually know something about ?
    Who, me? No. I have no clue about all this and even less interest these days. But complaining about gloves merited a response, so did the vague assertion that it's necessary to charge it up to do a long ride. If the ride was 3 months long it might be, but there's a sliding scale of how much charge you might need to add, how far you're going and how much use the gears get. So there.

    Happy Christmas dude. xx
    :)

    Not to you. To the muncher bloke.

    I’ve forgotten more about this stuff than you will ever know, the sooner you get your head around that fact, the better. You only ever seem to keyboard warrior my posts, it’s pathetic.
  • milemuncher1
    milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    spasypaddy wrote:
    finally after 5 years my di2 rear mech has died. :( 10 speed so hard to get a new one.


    That’s the thing with the ‘techy’ end of cycling kit, it becomes obsolete more quickly, than ‘hairy arsed’ kit. I guess the second hand market is your friend.
  • milemuncher1
    milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    CiB wrote:
    Brakeless wrote:
    Do you ever post anything you actually know something about ?
    Who, me? No. I have no clue about all this and even less interest these days. But complaining about gloves merited a response, so did the vague assertion that it's necessary to charge it up to do a long ride. If the ride was 3 months long it might be, but there's a sliding scale of how much charge you might need to add, how far you're going and how much use the gears get. So there.

    Happy Christmas dude. xx
    :)

    That’s exactly right.
  • spasypaddy
    spasypaddy Posts: 5,180
    Milemuncher1 wrote:
    spasypaddy wrote:
    finally after 5 years my di2 rear mech has died. :( 10 speed so hard to get a new one.


    That’s the thing with the ‘techy’ end of cycling kit, it becomes obsolete more quickly, than ‘hairy arsed’ kit. I guess the second hand market is your friend.
    it is. its also hard to find 2nd hand. managed to get one for £75 but most are going for £200+

    this is on my commute bike as well :lol:
    BMC TM01 - FCN 0
    Look 695 (Geared) - FCN 1
    Bowman Palace:R - FCN 1
    Cannondale CAAD 9 - FCN 2
    Premier (CX) - FCN 6
    Premier (fixed/SS) - FCN3
  • Brakeless
    Brakeless Posts: 865
    Milemuncher1 wrote:
    Brakeless wrote:
    CiB wrote:
    Brakeless wrote:
    Do you ever post anything you actually know something about ?
    Who, me? No. I have no clue about all this and even less interest these days. But complaining about gloves merited a response, so did the vague assertion that it's necessary to charge it up to do a long ride. If the ride was 3 months long it might be, but there's a sliding scale of how much charge you might need to add, how far you're going and how much use the gears get. So there.

    Happy Christmas dude. xx
    :)

    Not to you. To the muncher bloke.

    I’ve forgotten more about this stuff than you will ever know, the sooner you get your head around that fact, the better. You only ever seem to keyboard warrior my posts, it’s pathetic.

    You've never even owned a bike with Di2.

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