Vuelta 2017 line up.

blazing_saddles
blazing_saddles Posts: 22,704
edited August 2017 in Pro race
A dead thread of mine that I thought I'd resurrect for this.

Just had a quick peep at the early line up for the Vuelta to see which potential GC riders are going and so far we have....

Sky: Froome
Orica: Chaves, Yates x 2
Bora: Majka Konig
Astana: Aru, Lopez
Bahrain: Nibali
Ag2r: Bardet, Pozzovivo
QS: Jungels
Katusha: Zakarin
Cannondale: Uran, Formolo
Sunweb: Keldeman,
Lotto J: Kruisjiwijk, Bennett
Trek: Contador
UAE: Costa

All teams are nowhere near complete, but that's not a bad start!
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,535
    You'll have to settle for editing the title.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,704
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    You'll have to settle for editing the title.

    Good idea. Came in handy, two weeks later. :wink:
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  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,632
    Both Yates? I thought they would probably take turns... (which may make sense from a fatigue & fairness point of view)

    i.e.
    2016 TDF Adam (White, 4th)
    2016 Vuelta Simon (7th)
    2017 Giro Adam (9th)
    2017 TDF Simon (White, 7th)

    So...
    2017 Vuelta Adam ???
    2018 Giro Simon ???
    2018 TDF Adam ???
    Rich
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,537
    What are Movistar going to do?
  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    I heard both Yates and was surprised.
    Also heard Tom D not going - but glad he is.

    Will LRP be able to get back in time? Valverde? Fuglsang? Gesink? Love to see them all - but prob none of them
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    TwoToeBenny wrote:
    What are Movistar going to do?

    Betancur?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,449
    TwoToeBenny wrote:
    What are Movistar going to do?

    Landa. :twisted:
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Is barguil going?

    I was touting him as The Next Big Thing to a friend back in 2013, then totally dismissed him to same friend over the winter when we were discussing the upcoming season.

    He's obviously now firmly back in team my man, and anyone who says I didn't stick by him thru his lean years can speak to my lawyers.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    TwoToeBenny wrote:
    What are Movistar going to do?
    See what Marc Soler is capable of.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,704
    The_Boy wrote:
    Is barguil going?

    That's a definite yes, if anything one reads on the CN forum is definite.
    Alaphillipe is also a probable/possible depending on how his return goes I suppose.
    RichN95 wrote:
    See what Marc Soler is capable of.

    Soler, Carapaz, Ruben Fernandez are all getting their chances to show what they can do.
    So it's all the young hopefuls, plus the Burger King.
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    That's a definite yes, if anything one reads on the CN forum is definite.

    I read similar, but still holding out for something more concrete given the obvious short comings of the source.
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Also, I imagine FdJ will be taking demare? Was in decent enough form at the You against a stronger field, and he should be well rested because reasons.
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    I presume Bora will bring an angry Sagan
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,570
    Timoid. wrote:
    I presume Bora will bring an angry Sagan

    Someone somewhere said he wouldn't be during the tour. I remember thinking "maybe he'll ride the tour of Britain".
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,870
    imatfaal wrote:
    I heard both Yates and was surprised.
    Also heard Tom D not going - but glad he is.

    Will LRP be able to get back in time? Valverde? Fuglsang? Gesink? Love to see them all - but prob none of them

    Everything I can find online says he is not going, to concentrate on the Worlds - you have seen different?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,648
    Timoid. wrote:
    I presume Bora will bring an angry Sagan

    Getting sent home to spend time with his pregnant wife?

    He'll manage. He doesn't seem someone who is fussed about padding out his palmares, as long as he's having fun and making millions.
    _
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    TwoToeBenny wrote:
    What are Movistar going to do?

    Betancur?

    Movistar's plan was likely all in for Valverde to try and take the Vuelta. Clearly that went up the spout a few minutes into the TDF.

    With Nairo & Amador having done the Giro & Tour they're scratching around a bit for GC. Which might mean they go on the tear-up each day via the likes of Anacona & Soler.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    See what Marc Soler is capable of.

    Soler, Carapaz, Ruben Fernandez are all getting their chances to show what they can do.
    So it's all the young hopefuls, plus the Burger King.[/quote]

    Good point - forgot about Fernandez as well
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Daniel B wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    I heard both Yates and was surprised.
    Also heard Tom D not going - but glad he is.

    Will LRP be able to get back in time? Valverde? Fuglsang? Gesink? Love to see them all - but prob none of them

    Everything I can find online says he is not going, to concentrate on the Worlds - you have seen different?

    Bit of an odd decision, no?

    He'd be one of the favourites given there is over 50k of flat TT'ing.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,648
    Milton50 wrote:
    Daniel B wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    I heard both Yates and was surprised.
    Also heard Tom D not going - but glad he is.

    Will LRP be able to get back in time? Valverde? Fuglsang? Gesink? Love to see them all - but prob none of them

    Everything I can find online says he is not going, to concentrate on the Worlds - you have seen different?

    Bit of an odd decision, no?

    He'd be one of the favourites given there is over 50k of flat TT'ing.

    Worlds > Vuelta.
    _
  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Final racing day of the Vuelta - Stage 20 in Asturias looks like this

    PROFIL.png
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Climbing the Angliru is a farce.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,648
    Had some decent racing up there in the past.
    _
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Milton50 wrote:
    Daniel B wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    I heard both Yates and was surprised.
    Also heard Tom D not going - but glad he is.

    Will LRP be able to get back in time? Valverde? Fuglsang? Gesink? Love to see them all - but prob none of them

    Everything I can find online says he is not going, to concentrate on the Worlds - you have seen different?

    Bit of an odd decision, no?

    He'd be one of the favourites given there is over 50k of flat TT'ing.

    Worlds > Vuelta.

    Oh wait, we're talking about the RR??
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,648
    Milton50 wrote:

    Oh wait, we're talking about the RR??

    Both no?
    _
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Well the Road Race being more prestigious than the Vuelta goes without saying. But I don't think Dumoulin has much of a chance.

    I would have thought that winning a Vuelta is more prestigious and lucrative for both rider and team than the World TT. But I could be wrong.
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,537
    He put a statement on social media saying he was going for worlds ITT and hopefully the team TT and that he was no longer doing Vuelta.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,325
    RichA wrote:
    Both Yates? I thought they would probably take turns... (which may make sense from a fatigue & fairness point of view)

    i.e.
    2016 TDF Adam (White, 4th)
    2016 Vuelta Simon (7th)
    2017 Giro Adam (9th)
    2017 TDF Simon (White, 7th)

    So...
    2017 Vuelta Adam ???
    2018 Giro Simon ???
    2018 TDF Adam ???

    Matt White toying with the idea of using both in a GT, according to the Guardian, although this doesn't mention this year's Vuelta. Says they have different strengths, interestingly:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/24/simon-yates-tour-france-adam-chris-froome
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,648
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    RichA wrote:
    Both Yates? I thought they would probably take turns... (which may make sense from a fatigue & fairness point of view)

    i.e.
    2016 TDF Adam (White, 4th)
    2016 Vuelta Simon (7th)
    2017 Giro Adam (9th)
    2017 TDF Simon (White, 7th)

    So...
    2017 Vuelta Adam ???
    2018 Giro Simon ???
    2018 TDF Adam ???

    Matt White toying with the idea of using both in a GT, according to the Guardian, although this doesn't mention this year's Vuelta. Says they have different strengths, interestingly:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/24/simon-yates-tour-france-adam-chris-froome

    What, beyond sitting last wheel of the favourites group in any mountain stage?
    _
  • craigus89
    craigus89 Posts: 887
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    RichA wrote:
    Both Yates? I thought they would probably take turns... (which may make sense from a fatigue & fairness point of view)

    i.e.
    2016 TDF Adam (White, 4th)
    2016 Vuelta Simon (7th)
    2017 Giro Adam (9th)
    2017 TDF Simon (White, 7th)

    So...
    2017 Vuelta Adam ???
    2018 Giro Simon ???
    2018 TDF Adam ???

    Matt White toying with the idea of using both in a GT, according to the Guardian, although this doesn't mention this year's Vuelta. Says they have different strengths, interestingly:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/24/simon-yates-tour-france-adam-chris-froome

    What, beyond sitting last wheel of the favourites group in any mountain stage?

    Haha, I was thinking this for a lot of this tour. If they weren't British they would get a lot of grief on here for being wheelsuckers.

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