2018 Gear
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gsk82 wrote:The_Wicker_Man wrote:Pinno wrote:What's the difference between this:
...and this?:
Ones made my Colnago and the other by Bianchi :?
Yes ones a Specialisima and the other a c60.
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Oh yes!!
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So apparently this is what Aqua Blue are riding next year, including the disc brakes AND single chainring!
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Wonder how often they will have to stop because of a leaf or a stone getting stuck between the frame and tyre...0
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What do you meangreasedscotsman wrote:Wonder how often they will have to stop because of a leaf or a stone getting stuck between the frame and tyre...
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inseine wrote:
What do you meangreasedscotsman wrote:Wonder how often they will have to stop because of a leaf or a stone getting stuck between the frame and tyre...
:shock: :shock: :shock:Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Any benefits apart from publicity?Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:Any benefits apart from publicity?
The benefit to the team is most likely increased sponsorship revenue over what Ridley were prepared to pay for Aqua Blue to ride their bikes. It will be interesting to see how the bikes fare over a season on different parcours. I can imagine it being a good classics bike, for some reason (apart from P-R with that clearance).0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:Any benefits apart from publicity?
Aero, disc brakes, 30mm tyres, no front mech. Future of cycling, innit.0 -
The massive cadence changes when you change gear will be really annoying in a peloton (I find my 32-11 bad enough in chaingangs)0
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I don't get 1x setups, seems a solution looking for a problem.0
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Yeah.....a small and sharp stone sticking in the tire tread then making its way through that area and effectively scratching the piss out of the frame. (seriously? the forum software replaces pee eye ess ess with "wee wee". Are we 5 years old?)
I'd say what they should have done in the back if they want them close but to have clearance is to make the seat tube there a "U" shape that accepts the tire profile that gets you the aero but inside the "U" still provides a solid gap for stones to make it thru.
Just me. Steal my idea and go make money. Except for the climbs over a category of 3, I bet they stay in the big-ring 90% of the time anyway.0 -
hypster wrote:r0bh wrote:I don't get 1x setups, seems a solution looking for a problem.
Well over the years we've gone from 2x7 which only give you 9 different ratios to 11 or 12 speed blocks. What's not to like about the simplicity of 1x12? (plus the weight saving).
What's wrong with 13? :shock:
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13 ?! Holy batshit.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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I'm sure it's been done already, but some sort of sliding bb to keep the liine straight plus 12/13/.. ... is surely next?0
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hypster wrote:r0bh wrote:I don't get 1x setups, seems a solution looking for a problem.
Well over the years we've gone from 2x7 which only give you 9 different ratios to 11 or 12 speed blocks. What's not to like about the simplicity of 1x12? (plus the weight saving).
I'm not sure I get it either. My last bike has a 50/34 chainset with a 12-28 cassette. How can you get the same range with a 1x setup without having big steps between the gears?0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:hypster wrote:r0bh wrote:I don't get 1x setups, seems a solution looking for a problem.
Well over the years we've gone from 2x7 which only give you 9 different ratios to 11 or 12 speed blocks. What's not to like about the simplicity of 1x12? (plus the weight saving).
I'm not sure I get it either. My last bike has a 50/34 chainset with a 12-28 cassette. How can you get the same range with a 1x setup without having big steps between the gears?
A 44t and an 11-36 is pretty close - depends how much you mind the gaps.
See here for a graphical comparison comparing a 50/34 and 11-28 11 speed setup compared to a 1x11 4t and 11-36:
http://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=DERS ... 6&UF2=21350 -
Wouldn't a peloton in full flight leave behind anyone spinning a 44t?0
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raisinberry777 wrote:A 44t and an 11-36 is pretty close - depends how much you mind the gaps.
See here for a graphical comparison comparing a 50/34 and 11-28 11 speed setup compared to a 1x11 4t and 11-36:
http://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=DERS ... 6&UF2=2135
Ideally, I don't want any gaps. Especially in the middle of the cassette. I have an 11-32 on a different bike and do notice the lack of 15 and 17. OK, it's not the end of the world. Just rather have a setup that doesn't have the gaps.
Like the website you linked to though, that's really good, shows why I like the triple setup on my Spesh.
http://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=DERS ... 6&UF2=2135
Of course, pro rider might see it all in a different way.0 -
Nope. 44x11 is still a big gear. 120rpm = 60kph. I suspect pros will use a larger front ring, though, and adjust the choice of cassette for different parcours. Say you ran a 48T front; an 11-36 cassette gives you 66kph at 120rpm, but a lower bottom gear than 39x28. Given that pros generally ride a higher cadence than amateurs and are likely to be better at adapting to a wider cadence range, I can see it catching on. After all, remember that they used to ride not dissimilar speeds to now using 52/42 front rings and anywhere from 13-18 corncobs to 14-26 mountain freewheels.kleinstroker wrote:Wouldn't a peloton in full flight leave behind anyone spinning a 44t?
52x13, incidentally, is the same gear as 44x11, and would have been the biggest gear available to e.g. Mercx on most days. Apparently it was a big, and unusual, deal back in the day if someone saw a mechanic putting on a 12 cog; that meant the rider was feeling strong and planning to attack.0 -
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Thing is, they're not racing against Merckx, they're racing against guys on 53x11. I can't see them being happy on 44 or even 48x11964Cup wrote:
Nope. 44x11 is still a big gear. 120rpm = 60kph. I suspect pros will use a larger front ring, though, and adjust the choice of cassette for different parcours. Say you ran a 48T front; an 11-36 cassette gives you 66kph at 120rpm, but a lower bottom gear than 39x28. Given that pros generally ride a higher cadence than amateurs and are likely to be better at adapting to a wider cadence range, I can see it catching on. After all, remember that they used to ride not dissimilar speeds to now using 52/42 front rings and anywhere from 13-18 corncobs to 14-26 mountain freewheels.kleinstroker wrote:Wouldn't a peloton in full flight leave behind anyone spinning a 44t?
52x13, incidentally, is the same gear as 44x11, and would have been the biggest gear available to e.g. Mercx on most days. Apparently it was a big, and unusual, deal back in the day if someone saw a mechanic putting on a 12 cog; that meant the rider was feeling strong and planning to attack.0 -
60kph is nowhere near enough.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
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The gaps will be horrendous. It’s bad enough with a 12-32 with a double up front.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
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1x could work for certain races - Paris-Roubaix is the obvious one - but I really can't see it catching on in the pro peloton.0
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Why mechanically is 11 the lower limit at the back? I mean, the chain goes happily around the jockey wheels.
Anyway, 44 x 10 is 116 inches and 53 x 11 is 127 inches (in old money; pre Brentry). Big gap. What am I missing?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
As described, 9 tooth cassettes now exist, but need different hubs.
Friction increases with small cogs because the chain doubles back more, which isn't a problem with jockey wheels. Friction and efficiency loss also increases with chain angle. So you loose power using small cogs. Some Tters prefer 55 up front, so they can keep a better chainline most of the time (i.e. Avoid the smallest cogs).
Br did this on it a while back
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/arti ... ing-44016/
The differences are very small though.0
