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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    moonshine wrote:
    maddog 2 wrote:
    do you have a link to more info inseine?
    https://www.focus-bikes.com/gb_en/proje ... cing-bikes

    In all other respects, the PROJECT Y offers the same ride characteristics as a standard racing bike. There is no pedal resistance. At less than 12 kg, the bike is really light and fast. Wherever weight becomes an issue (e.g. going uphill), the drive kicks in and assists you with up to 400 watts of additional power. The assistance feels completely natural at 25 km/h and you get the very best out of your ride. The future of racing bikes offers maximum performance in every situation

    That looks freaking sweet - it would be fun to see what climbing at 8 or 9 w/kg feels like!

    Wonder how long the battery lasts.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Jez mon wrote:
    Why not just ride a motorbike?

    Because I'm a lazy fat prick who likes riding a bike but doesn't like hills
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • moonshine
    moonshine Posts: 1,021
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Jez mon wrote:
    Why not just ride a motorbike?

    Because I'm a lazy fat prick who likes riding a bike but doesn't like hills
    :lol:
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    maddog 2 wrote:
    do you have a link to more info inseine?

    https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/07/05/fo ... ore-165571

    Nice Cyclo cross too.........

    Focus-Project-Y_carbon-dropbar-e-bike-concept_prototype-all-road-gravel-cyclocross-adventure-bike_CX-complete.jpg
    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • fat daddy
    fat daddy Posts: 2,605
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Because I'm a lazy fat prick who likes riding a bike but doesn't like hills


    that's not an excuse .. I am a focused, lean prick that likes a hill challenge .. and I WANT that bike as well.

    Not sure when I would use I though .. the bike at the weekend gets used for exercise so I would feel guilty having assist ... during the week I commute - otherwise known as racing everything and I feel an electric would be cheating

    I think I would probably use it for hammering around fields and cyclocross tracks just for the insane fun of it

    I do wonder though if I would use less effort .. after all if I cycle at 200w .... if the bike gave me an additional 400w would I really cycle at only 500w or would I keep pushing 200w and just go faster ? ..... perhaps I would use it for exersize, just go further and see more
  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    If that CX version had mudguard mounts I'd be all over it. Would be an awesome windy weather commuter.

    I reckon my current commuter weighs more than 12kg too, so it wouldn't matter too much if I forgot to charge it.
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  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    you need to be able to change the 25kph limit though. That's 15.5mph in old money. So if you are riding along at 17mph then it's just a heavy bike.

    Fine for definite ups or downs, but flat and rolling it's in no-mans land.
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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    http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/produ ... isc-340096

    Looking very svelte.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301
    BigMat wrote:
    OK, he was robbed a couple of times (IMO)...

    You mean when Cav was acting like a t1t and whingeing about a lot and the Peloton let Hushovd go on an unlikely wet day for a sprinter in the hills to mop up the intermediate sprints or... when he crashed numerous times at key moments. None of them his fault of course.
    Outside the time limit in 2011 twice and getting points deducted - slightly controversial, I would agree.

    Let's not take anything away from Cav, including being doused in urine by a spectator and going to SKY was a poor move given their ambitions but 'robbed' form a couple of green jerseys', not sure I would agree.
    If he had a team Colombia/HTC for most of his career, god knows how many Green jersey's he would have won. As many as Sagan/Kelly? Who knows.
    Given the new batch of sprinters, TdF stage 31 win will be a hard one to reach.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    FocusZing wrote:
    cannondale-synapse-main-d5b_2533.jpg
    http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/produ ... isc-340096

    Looking very svelte.

    Not sure about that colour scheme.. but great bike.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301
    That's got that all in one chainset, I think. What do you do when the teeth wear out?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Yeah, not a fan of the colour either.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    FocusZing wrote:
    Yeah, not a fan of the colour either.

    Green seems to be the Cannondale corporate colour. Least it's visible out on the road
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
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    Away from songs about him you can now get a jersey to commemorate the career of Tommeke.
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  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Pinno wrote:
    That's got that all in one chainset, I think. What do you do when the teeth wear out?

    You can replace just the spider and rings (which is one piece of metal) - just checked retail at Sigma £199 as opposed to about £150 for Dura Ace. Not saying it is cheap - but better than needing to trash the whole £500 chainset

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301
    Record/Chorus chainrings @ £89 each at Wiggle. That makes replacement C'rings from Campag cheaper!
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Pinno wrote:
    Record/Chorus chainrings @ £89 each at Wiggle. That makes replacement C'rings from Campag cheaper!

    "campag cheaper" - never seen those words written together before! :D

    All the Cannondale kit is ludicrously expensive - but the bits I picked up on the bay and in sales do seem beautifully made. I took the budget option of dura ace rather than the SiSL spidergram - which I have just checked is a whopping euro 1150!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301
    imatfaal wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    Record/Chorus chainrings @ £89 each at Wiggle. That makes replacement C'rings from Campag cheaper!

    "campag cheaper" - never seen those words written together before! :D

    My thoughts exactly.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Now here is a bike I'd love to own. Bianchi Specialissima Pantani Edition

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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Yeah, I like the blended in yellow too, it suits the Bianchi colour.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    dish_dash wrote:
    Now here is a bike I'd love to own. Bianchi Specialissima Pantani Edition

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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    The future of road bikes? Aero frame, disc brakes, 1x11 gears, fat tyres.....
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    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    dish_dash wrote:
    Now here is a bike I'd love to own. Bianchi Specialissima Pantani Edition

    YNBG9YME_01.jpg


    Seen some stuff on FB about this bike recently. It looks bang on.

    Just need www.prendas.co.uk to restock the kit :)
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  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    inseine wrote:
    The future of road bikes? Aero frame, disc brakes, 1x11 gears, fat tyres.....
    strada--3-of-12--1499787681317-orp64dmef2db-630-80.jpg

    Looks great but apart from the aero touches on the frame and deep sections it is practically what a huge number of commuters use - ie a cross bike with GP4000s II or some other wide road tyre on.

    Wider tyres tend to drag more cr*p around with them - doesn't look like there is a lot of clearance there. As all reviews show it on broken road etc I would prefer to have enough clearance to run Schwalbe gravel tyres (and there won't be from those pictures with 28mm contis). And if you are taking about a full road bike - you are gonna be spinning wildly to keep up

    On the whole it seems like neither fish flesh nor good red herring - and a frame set for best part of 4000 Euros is pretty damn pricey for something with no real place in which it excels.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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    bonkers CeramicSpeed Oversized Pulley Wheel System. The huge 17t jockey wheel is claimed to improve drivetrain efficiency and can save 3W at 250W power output. But you pay a hefty price for those watts, it retails for £400.
    http://road.cc/content/tech-news/225660 ... -race-bike
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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    That is orrible.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    What's the physics behind the bigger jockey wheel; shallower angle reduces internal friction within the chain pivot?
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    moonshine wrote:
    maddog 2 wrote:
    do you have a link to more info inseine?
    https://www.focus-bikes.com/gb_en/proje ... cing-bikes

    In all other respects, the PROJECT Y offers the same ride characteristics as a standard racing bike. There is no pedal resistance. At less than 12 kg, the bike is really light and fast. Wherever weight becomes an issue (e.g. going uphill), the drive kicks in and assists you with up to 400 watts of additional power. The assistance feels completely natural at 25 km/h and you get the very best out of your ride. The future of racing bikes offers maximum performance in every situation

    That looks freaking sweet - it would be fun to see what climbing at 8 or 9 w/kg feels like!

    Wonder how long the battery lasts.

    We have (had) an e-fat bike for getting the uplift van back. I can tell you that even with 4in tyres at 0.6bar it's a lot of fun. They could really open up a lot of the backcountry for non-cycling sports too. We had one of the guys from this parish out who test rode a #enduro bike and the equivalent e-bike and preferred the performance of the e-bike downhill. There is a guide somewhere around Chamonix (I think) that has abandoned uplifts now and just uses e-bikes.

    Whilst i dont think they re 100% of the future, they re going to be a massive part of it. (And anyone that throws out the motorbike line is just showing they haven't ever ridden one.)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    What's the physics behind the bigger jockey wheel; shallower angle reduces internal friction within the chain pivot?

    it just spins slower... that's all, as far as I'm aware. I run 13t KCNCs in my mechs. Bit cheaper than CeramicSpeed :wink:
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    I think if there was that much benefit in running bigger jockeys then Shimano would just add them as standard and use it in their marketing. Strikes me as snake oil to some extent.

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