Dream Garage

Matthewfalle

Problem with that thing is that you'll have 20 odd staff so you'll never have any privacy - it's not like you could have TDNFNATN on board in her sailing special lab coat and not expect to bump into a member of staff all the time pestering her for autographs, selfies, trying to steal her things and selling stories of how they served her dinner to the worldwide media outlets.

Also bloody difficult to park - you can't just turn up at Penarth and expect to slip it into berth number 6 and the duty free man will pop round to see you in a bit Mr.

40ft yacht is enough for me.

slowmart

Go big or go home MF

herb71

Matthewfalle wrote:

TDNFNATN

Who is this? I am obviously missing an in joke!

Lots of Motorbikers here! Good to know. I don't trust people who don't have an affinity for motorbikes.

meanredspider

Stevo 666 wrote:

Bugatti Chiron - current ultimate power and speed on 4 wheels. Why not?

So why not? I think I'm more in tune with your taste than many of the other lists but there are cars I just don't really see the point in (except for showing off how much money you have) and the Chiron is one. I really struggled to choose my latest car and, even though I chose the least powerful version, it still has far more power than I can sensibly use in the UK (or pretty much anywhere) - that's just frustrating. I can't imagine what it's like having 3 or 4 times as much power. And, yes, you could use it on a track but then I'd buy a proper track weapon or, better still, something historic that totally involves you.

So, no, I wouldn't have one.

bendertherobot

lostboysaint wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Herb71 wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Out of interest, those wanting T4's and T5's, have you ever owned one?

No, but I really fancy a day / weekender van. The wife doesn't need a car for work anymore, so giving serious thought to getting rid of her car and getting a van. You're going to tell us why that's a bad idea now aren't you!

It's not bad per se, just not magical. I always wanted one and I've had a 180 BiTidi DSG Caravelle now for 2 years. It's ok for a large van. Fast, voluminous. What it's not is remotely well specced, cheap to run, or comfy really. Quite crashy, but it's a van. Mine's coming up for change so rather than buy I'm leasing a Peugeot Traveller. Not as much cache but well specced, better engine and MPG and much cheaper to lease.

For comparison the RRP (which is still mad) of my new one is £39k, just under the high 'car tax' rate. A similarly specced T6 is just over £60k

I had the same engine in a Caravelle (14 reg). In Sept last year I changed to a 150 DSG California Ocean and, despite my love of my Caravelle, the T6 is worlds better. It's averaging more than 37 mpg on mostly urban/mixed driving (10k miles in my ownership) and has only chewed one set of front tyres.

I'm not going to argue about the spec/cost issue. I am fortunate that I got a very, very good deal on an ex VW fleet van because the list price with the options that it has would have started with a 6.

Yeah, think I'm on my 3rd set of tyres in 20k now. To be fair, they've just gone on so that's 1 pair per 10k. £150 to change the oil on the DSG next week. Luckily had the service plan so services have been free. 37mpg is pretty good, mine averages about 33 mpg.

I don't know if the Pug will live up to the claims it makes for itself but combined is claimed to be 53 on combined cycle. Even if I lose 10 from that, as I expect too, that's not bad.

Yeah, I had a deal on my T5.1. Even that, in 2013, with options was wandering into starting with a 5...

eric_draven

fat daddy wrote:

If I could afford a garage with all these maercs, masseratis, porsches, ducattis and lambos in ...... there isn't a hells chance I am going to sleep on a van flopor .... sure I'll still go MTBing, but the bikes can live in the back of the van, I am sleeping in the local 5 star hotel with a ersonal masseuse

If I had that much money I probably would still sleep in the back of a van/camper or a roof tent on a Landy,I do really enjoy camping even in my 40's,whether in campsite or wild somewhere on the coast in Scotland

my bus packed and ready to go for 3 weeks in the alps last summer

Stevo_666

meanredspider wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Bugatti Chiron - current ultimate power and speed on 4 wheels. Why not?

So why not? I think I'm more in tune with your taste than many of the other lists but there are cars I just don't really see the point in (except for showing off how much money you have) and the Chiron is one. I really struggled to choose my latest car and, even though I chose the least powerful version, it still has far more power than I can sensibly use in the UK (or pretty much anywhere) - that's just frustrating. I can't imagine what it's like having 3 or 4 times as much power. And, yes, you could use it on a track but then I'd buy a proper track weapon or, better still, something historic that totally involves you.

So, no, I wouldn't have one.

Things on the far end of any spectrum have always interested me - admittedly you would need a trip to the Autobahn or a large airfield to experience a Chiron's main selling point properly but still the idea of overtaking aircraft does appeal somehow

Although to be fair, with the exception of the 205GTI, pretty much everything on my list has way more power than is usable on public roads unless you fancy getting yourself getting yourself a jail sentence. That's partly why I started doing track days when I got the Evo 6.

Matthewfalle

Slowmart wrote:

Go big or go home MF

In which case I'll have a Motor Yacht A with special compartment for TDNFNATN's lab coats please.

meanredspider

Stevo 666 wrote:

Although to be fair, with the exception of the 205GTI, pretty much everything on my list has way more power than is usable on public roads without getting yourself a jail sentence. That's partly why I started doing track days when I got the Evo 6.

I'm totally with you on the Evo. Generally I don't like AWD cars but I drove the Evo on a PalmerSport day "rally stage" (some bumpy and wet tarmac) with the instructor hauling on the handbrake at inopportune moments and me trying to collect it up - I was twirling the wheel so hard, I hit myself in the nuts. We were both crying with laughter by the end of the session.

The most fun I've ever had on track was at Knockhill in an Alfa Giulia coupe on historic cross-ply tyres. I was meant to be doing a shared drive at a Spa 1 hour race (then my son got diagnosed with cancer). Throwing the car into the corners and then gathering it up with hugely exaggerated steering inputs was utterly addictive and proved to me that, whilst power is fun, it really isn't necessary. If that car had 150bhp, I'd be surprised.

slowmart

Matthewfalle wrote:

Slowmart wrote:

Go big or go home MF

In which case I'll have a Motor Yacht A with special compartment for TDNFNATN's lab coats please.

Any pics of this female? Have you recently received a head trauma?

Matthewfalle

She is too wonderful to be posted in this thread. She is divine, delicious, delicate and detrimental to my sanity. She is the one. She is mine.

Her lab coats smell of joy, happiness and a bright future for Me and Her.

Garry H

For garage, read hangar

Matthewfalle

Garry H wrote:

For garage, read hangar

That has absolutely nothing on a bad tempered TDNFNATN after two bottles of Buckie and a large doner meat and chips from Edwyns Emporioum of Doner Meat.

Stevo_666

meanredspider wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Although to be fair, with the exception of the 205GTI, pretty much everything on my list has way more power than is usable on public roads without getting yourself a jail sentence. That's partly why I started doing track days when I got the Evo 6.

I'm totally with you on the Evo. Generally I don't like AWD cars but I drove the Evo on a PalmerSport day "rally stage" (some bumpy and wet tarmac) with the instructor hauling on the handbrake at inopportune moments and me trying to collect it up - I was twirling the wheel so hard, I hit myself in the nuts. We were both crying with laughter by the end of the session.

The most fun I've ever had on track was at Knockhill in an Alfa Giulia coupe on historic cross-ply tyres. I was meant to be doing a shared drive at a Spa 1 hour race (then my son got diagnosed with cancer). Throwing the car into the corners and then gathering it up with hugely exaggerated steering inputs was utterly addictive and proved to me that, whilst power is fun, it really isn't necessary. If that car had 150bhp, I'd be surprised.

The Evo converted me to 4wd. Just so easy to drive fast, almost unbeatable in the wet and great in the dry with some ex BTCC slicks fitted - silly amounts of traction, cornering and braking.

pinno

I'm a bit late on this one.

Yep, the Slowmart realistic option is good except with a full size snooker table.

Next door however, will be furnished with:

Mk1 Mexico
Fiat Abarth Supermirafiori 131 in Alitalia Colours
Early E Type v12 - hard top in that dark British Racing green
Mk1 Cooper S
1.9 Pug 205
Nissan Skyline R34 fully blown and stripped out in Xanavi Nismo regalia. In fact give me a works one.
Lancia Delta integrale.
Bugatti Atalanta Coupe Type 57s. In a dark colour. One of the most gorgeous cars ever built and
A seriously plush motorhome to take me (and occasionally the rest of Casa Pinno) around France and to the Alps.

As for bikes, a Wilier with Campag R11, a Colnago C40 with Campag R10 and an alu Pinarello with Carbon forks. Oh yeah, i've got them

meanredspider

Stevo 666 wrote:

with some ex BTCC slicks fitted - silly amounts of traction, cornering and braking.

I can imagine - I've a set of BTCC spec Dunlop wets and they're incredible except I'm not allowed to use them in any of my race series. A guy once forgot to change his and he was approaching the corner at Donington so fast that I was convinced he'd lost it so I didn't turn in, expecting him to go sliding straight across in front of me. I, and the other guys in my group, were stunned when he just piled through the corner at speed. He was very embarrassed after the race and apologised.

veronese68

Oh yeah, if I was going to have a boat...

Ferruccio Lamborghini's Riva, a pair of counter-rotating Lambo V12s in the back.

pinno

Those boats are so elegant. I saw one of them in Stockholm of all places. Nice to look at but boats go on water and water is... well, wet and in the UK, very over rated. So I would have to live in Trieste.

fish156

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Sadly my dream garage is largely stuff I had in the past and wish I'd kept.

^ this.

Shortfall wrote:

Suzuki RG500. Bonkers, unreliable, thirsty, slow by modern standards but quick in its time if you kept it in the powerband. Every spotty teenagers dream bike in the 80s

A small garage with my old Gamma 500 and I'd be content :-)

veronese68

Pinno wrote:

So I would have to live in Trieste.

The dream garage would have to be in the right place. Lake Garda would be good for the boat and a few more.
Does it have to be just the one garage? Multiple locations would be good.

meanredspider

I love those speedboats though I do wonder if steering one would become a bit tedious - "like driving a car in a field" my dad (a keen yachtsman) once said. I think I'd still like one moored at the end of my garden so I could just admire it. I once nearly bought a Dino 246 (god, I wish I had, they were less than £10k!!!) but my local Alfa specialist said he would only buy one to put in his garden to admire, so much trouble were they.

Garry H

Veronese68 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

So I would have to live in Trieste.

The dream garage would have to be in the right place. Lake Garda would be good for the boat and a few more.
Does it have to be just the one garage? Multiple locations would be good.

And one of these to travel between said garages/boat sheds/hangars

meanredspider

Garry H wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

So I would have to live in Trieste.

The dream garage would have to be in the right place. Lake Garda would be good for the boat and a few more.
Does it have to be just the one garage? Multiple locations would be good.

And one of these to travel between said garages/boat sheds/hangars

I worry about you....

(Reminds me of that Geordie on Alan Partridge... if you know the scene)

Worth a watch https://youtu.be/fzVD5zYLK1k

tlw1

It's a hard choice, as the wife's uncle told me, choosing the right car is hard, which is why he ended up with over 50

Merc Amg estate
Lotus exige
F40
Ferrari 458
E type and xk150
Rolls phantom

Masters & c60
Carbon Santa Cruz

Matthewfalle

meanredspider wrote:

I love those speedboats though I do wonder if steering one would become a bit tedious - "like driving a car in a field" my dad (a keen yachtsman) once said. I think I'd still like one moored at the end of my garden so I could just admire it. I once nearly bought a Dino 246 (god, I wish I had, they were less than £10k!!!) but my local Alfa specialist said he would only buy one to put in his garden to admire, so much trouble were they.

About 20 years I nearly bought a Donzi. Beautiful it were but would have been such a waste of money.

Matthewfalle

Garry H wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

So I would have to live in Trieste.

The dream garage would have to be in the right place. Lake Garda would be good for the boat and a few more.
Does it have to be just the one garage? Multiple locations would be good.

And one of these to travel between said garages/boat sheds/hangars

A friend has got one of those. He says that his man says that's it a right bugger to do a filter and oil change on it.

Matthewfalle

Veronese68 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

So I would have to live in Trieste.

The dream garage would have to be in the right place. Lake Garda would be good for the boat and a few more.
Does it have to be just the one garage? Multiple locations would be good.

Place is a dump. You want somewhere stunning like Llanerch or Cefn Coed. Truly majestic.

Pross

Veronese68 wrote:

Oh yeah, if I was going to have a boat...

Ferruccio Lamborghini's Riva, a pair of counter-rotating Lambo V12s in the back.

Oh yes, a Riva Aquarama in my boathouse on Lake Garda. They really are the ultimate in Italian style, whilst I've always fancied a modest ocean going yacht if I had to chose a boat the class of these would win hands down and cruising the Italian lakes in summer is more appealing to a yacht on the Caribbean. I guess I'd then have to have a classic Ferrari to get to and from the lake as the DB5 would be out of place so maybe a 275 GTS. Better get Mrs P and Italian silk headscarf and some Jackie O style Gucci sunglasses to complete the picture and keep her happy I suppose.

Pross

Had an Apache flying towards me at quite low level on the M3 the other week. It felt quite strange and very intimidating. Not quite as bad as when I was cycling home from work during the NATO conference and a pair of Ospreys went over at treetop height escorting Obama though!

veronese68

A friend has had a Dino 246 for about 10 years, value has gone through the roof. He's now taken it off the road to restore it properly, not surprisingly it was worse than expected. Aren't they always.
Whatever was in my dream garage would keep changing, as TLW said it's so hard to choose. If I won big on the lottery I'd still work. But 'work' would be buying and selling high class classics. I'd also be very surprised as I never buy a ticket making the odds even worse.