Dolan Dual Audax metric munching machine

ugo.santalucia

RIght,

I've been wanting to replace my road/cyclocross bike with something lighter, less aggressive in geometry and more suited to spend 10+ hours on.
Having found a friend who is in need of a CX frameset and wheels, the deal has been done quicker than anticipated... so after much mulling over, I decided to go for the frameset that ticks all the boxes

This


The 10 speed components will be transferred onto the new frameset, but obviously I need some brake calipers and some wheels for rim brakes, hence these were needed too



Christmas day excitement and all of that, but overall a sound project...

sloppyschleckonds

Always good bikes Dolans.

And why have you got a watering can on top of that dresser?

ugo.santalucia

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Always good bikes Dolans.

And why have you got a watering can on top of that dresser?

For that, you should ask my wife...

Alex99

ugo.santalucia wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Always good bikes Dolans.

And why have you got a watering can on top of that dresser?

For that, you should ask my wife...

Nice dresser. How about a gold K-edge Garmin mount to go with those hubs? I'm already worried that your Dual is going to look better than mine.

When you've got the brakes on, I'm interested to see whether the pads are right at the limit in the grooves to reach an optimal place on the brake tracks. Some Tiagra 4500 calipers I have were about 2 mm too short in drop. Obviously Dolan supply full builds with 5800, so I suppose there can't be a major issue, but if you can comment that would be good.

The only other issue I had is that the original headset bearings became rusty quite quickly. I have since had stainless races in from Superstar (£6 a go) and they have so far been good for 2 years.

wotnoshoeseh

Which hubs are they?
Are you going to hold out for the new Open PRO rims, or what's the plan Ugo?

ugo.santalucia

wotnoshoeseh wrote:

Which hubs are they?
Are you going to hold out for the new Open PRO rims, or what's the plan Ugo?

Hope RS4... 24/32. no, going for DT 460, maybe Open PRO when these wear out... it won't be long...

ugo.santalucia

Alex99 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Always good bikes Dolans.

And why have you got a watering can on top of that dresser?

For that, you should ask my wife...

Nice dresser. How about a gold K-edge Garmin mount to go with those hubs? I'm already worried that your Dual is going to look better than mine.

When you've got the brakes on, I'm interested to see whether the pads are right at the limit in the grooves to reach an optimal place on the brake tracks. Some Tiagra 4500 calipers I have were about 2 mm too short in drop. Obviously Dolan supply full builds with 5800, so I suppose there can't be a major issue, but if you can comment that would be good.

The only other issue I had is that the original headset bearings became rusty quite quickly. I have since had stainless races in from Superstar (£6 a go) and they have so far been good for 2 years.

Terry confirmed short calipers are fine... the 5800 should be a bit longer than the 6800, seeing they are designed to take 28 mm tyres.
The Alpina headset looks basic, but it takes 10 seconds to install, thanks to the split crown race, so I am not worried at all... if it dies I'll get a Hope one.

The hubs are orange, not gold... I quite like the basic Garmin "on the bars" mount, my 200 is very tiny

Alex99

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Alex99 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Always good bikes Dolans.

And why have you got a watering can on top of that dresser?

For that, you should ask my wife...

Nice dresser. How about a gold K-edge Garmin mount to go with those hubs? I'm already worried that your Dual is going to look better than mine.

When you've got the brakes on, I'm interested to see whether the pads are right at the limit in the grooves to reach an optimal place on the brake tracks. Some Tiagra 4500 calipers I have were about 2 mm too short in drop. Obviously Dolan supply full builds with 5800, so I suppose there can't be a major issue, but if you can comment that would be good.

The only other issue I had is that the original headset bearings became rusty quite quickly. I have since had stainless races in from Superstar (£6 a go) and they have so far been good for 2 years.

Terry confirmed short calipers are fine... the 5800 should be a bit longer than the 6800, seeing they are designed to take 28 mm tyres.
The Alpina headset looks basic, but it takes 10 seconds to install, thanks to the split crown race, so I am not worried at all... if it dies I'll get a Hope one.

The hubs are orange, not gold... I quite like the basic Garmin "on the bars" mount, my 200 is very tiny

Fair enough. The 200 is cute and looks slightly funny on an out-front mount.

jdee84

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Alex99 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Always good bikes Dolans.

And why have you got a watering can on top of that dresser?

For that, you should ask my wife...

Nice dresser. How about a gold K-edge Garmin mount to go with those hubs? I'm already worried that your Dual is going to look better than mine.

When you've got the brakes on, I'm interested to see whether the pads are right at the limit in the grooves to reach an optimal place on the brake tracks. Some Tiagra 4500 calipers I have were about 2 mm too short in drop. Obviously Dolan supply full builds with 5800, so I suppose there can't be a major issue, but if you can comment that would be good.

The only other issue I had is that the original headset bearings became rusty quite quickly. I have since had stainless races in from Superstar (£6 a go) and they have so far been good for 2 years.

Terry confirmed short calipers are fine... the 5800 should be a bit longer than the 6800, seeing they are designed to take 28 mm tyres.
The Alpina headset looks basic, but it takes 10 seconds to install, thanks to the split crown race, so I am not worried at all... if it dies I'll get a Hope one.

The hubs are orange, not gold... I quite like the basic Garmin "on the bars" mount, my 200 is very tiny

Could the frame take mudguards and 28 tyres?

ugo.santalucia

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Could the frame take mudguards and 28 tyres?[/quote]

Don't think so... guards and 25 yes though

Alex99

ugo.santalucia wrote:

[quote="j

Could the frame take mudguards and 28 tyres?

Don't think so... guards and 25 yes though[/quote]

Yeah, probably not easy. You might be lucky with the right brake and some fiddling. I'll try it and report back if I get chance.

jdee84

Thanks. Just thinking over possible frames to run full mudgaurds and 28's if i can for next winter.

Garry H

Oooh.I want one.

I've a Dolan Preffisio with an Alpina Headset. Six years on and it's still fine.

ugo.santalucia

jdee84 wrote:

Thanks. Just thinking over possible frames to run full mudgaurds and 28's if i can for next winter.

Difficult with a road/Audax frame... maybe something like a Panorama or similar

964cup

Enigma Etape will take 28c and guards. I use 25c tubeless (which come up fat) with PDWs and there's still a fair bit of clearance.

ugo.santalucia

Been busy last night

bmxboy10

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Been busy last night

Let me now how the tubeless tyres go on This wheelset would be perfect for me (in red) 8)

wotnoshoeseh

Those wheels look great, Ugo.

Ben6899

Looking forward to seeing this finished. I do like a tastefully done Dolan.

ugo.santalucia

Thanks guys... next week is building week!

Garry H

The ultimate sportive machine!

ugo.santalucia

Garry H wrote:

The ultimate Audax machine!

FIFY

meanredspider

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Thanks guys... next week is building week!

Surely putting a bicycle together is a couple of hours? Have it done before bed

ugo.santalucia

meanredspider wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Thanks guys... next week is building week!

Surely putting a bicycle together is a couple of hours? Have it done before bed

Probably... it might take 2 hours to put the tubeless tyres on though...

Garry H

Nah, done Audaxes on a cheap alloy bike. Has good hoops though

meanredspider

ugo.santalucia wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Thanks guys... next week is building week!

Surely putting a bicycle together is a couple of hours? Have it done before bed

Probably... it might take 2 hours to put the tubeless tyres on though...

That's fair - I need a stiff drink after each one too! :roll:

ravey1981

Backwards step going beck to rim brakes though? For an all rounder I'd want discs all day long.

ugo.santalucia

ravey1981 wrote:

Backwards step going beck to rim brakes though? For an all rounder I'd want discs all day long.

I've been on discs for 9 years and I am quite happy to go back... I am a bit frustrated about them. No regrets

ugo.santalucia

solboy10 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Been busy last night

Let me now how the tubeless tyres go on This wheelset would be perfect for me (in red) 8)

Fitted a pair of Maxxis Padrone 28 with the Air Shot... no problem

ugo.santalucia

... and a few hours later

Alex99

Looks nice. Is that 5800 sti's with 9s rear mech? Which cassette?