It's All Kicking Off in The Bottom Bracket

seanoconn

Rick is well past his prime post wise but he doesn't let that stop him.

pinno

bobmcstuff wrote:

Pinno wrote:

bobmcstuff wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

Frenchie does still log in from time to time...

Yes. And PMs people who say things he doesn't agree with, which is very odd behaviour!

PM's don't go towards the post count. It would ruin the lovely even number.

Are you planning something similar? Not long!

Or maybe going for the big 50?

Couldn't give a farq but I see some wishful thinking in there

Paul 8v

Not everyone agreed with him but the world would be a boring place if everyone thought the same thing. The photos he used to post were great and he loves racing. Frenchie was all about the panache.

bobmcstuff

Pinno wrote:

bobmcstuff wrote:

Pinno wrote:

bobmcstuff wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

Frenchie does still log in from time to time...

Yes. And PMs people who say things he doesn't agree with, which is very odd behaviour!

PM's don't go towards the post count. It would ruin the lovely even number.

Are you planning something similar? Not long!

Or maybe going for the big 50?

Couldn't give a farq but I see some wishful thinking in there

Haha, you're alright really.

TBH I don't normally see post count as I usually browse from my phone.

takethehighroad

Frenchie lives on through the My Man posts. He started that.

Admittedly there's not enough pictures on the forum, but I don't post enough, or scour the internet enough to find them

above_the_cows

Paul 8v wrote:

Not everyone agreed with him but the world would be a boring place if everyone thought the same thing. The photos he used to post were great and he loves racing. Frenchie was all about the panache.

Plus he was the greatest sign maker of his generation. Let us not forget that.

Garry H

For a long time I actually thought he was a teenager.

Matthewfalle

Who - FF or Contador?

Garry H

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Matthewfalle

This. I really quite like him. He always seems to be smiling, which is nice.

Garry H

Learned to ride by hooning around on a butcher's bike, apparently.

letap73

I also have no beef with Contador
That Bradley Wiggins likes to lark around as well - he's a nice chap also.

Matthewfalle

I understand that his beef came in a secret courier package. The original Jiffey Bag of Doom. Bizarrely they had a courier docket for that one.

He also managed to massively annoy Dopestrong which is always nice.

Vino'sGhost

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

blazing_saddles

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

His fans.

seanoconn

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

His fans.

surrey_commuter

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

I freely concede I may be missing the joke but how about the fact that he is a drugs cheat. If he and his ilk were treated with the contempt they deserve then the sport would have proper sponsors and wages.

The fact that each drugs cheat is happily accepted back by sponsors and the peloton tells you that at best they see them as doing nothing wrong.

pinno

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

I freely concede I may be missing the joke but how about the fact that he is a drugs cheat. If he and his ilk were treated with the contempt they deserve then the sport would have proper sponsors and wages.

The fact that each drugs cheat is happily accepted back by sponsors and the peloton tells you that at best they see them as doing nothing wrong.

Well, if you're going to down that line, why not wipe all the records off every professional from way back in the day when it was acceptable (1930's and even viewed as 'innovative') right up until the Dopestrong scandal kicked off?

Museeuw, Tom Simpson, Pantani, Virenque, Farrar...

Contador served his ban and therefore you have to accept the UCI's decision making process. I might have guessed the holier-than-thou Surrey commuter would have taken that line.

So there. That's it, i've said it. That'll put an end to this luvvy duvvy 'Brackateers and Cake stoppers shack up with the Pro Racer boys' sh1t. :roll:

...and besides, there's little doubt in my mind that Wiggo pushed the TUE boundaries. It was legal but arguably immoral.

Richmond Racer 2

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

His fans.

Post of ProRace

rick_chasey

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

I freely concede I may be missing the joke but how about the fact that he is a drugs cheat. If he and his ilk were treated with the contempt they deserve then the sport would have proper sponsors and wages.

The fact that each drugs cheat is happily accepted back by sponsors and the peloton tells you that at best they see them as doing nothing wrong.

Given how rife it was, if you treated all dopers like that the sport would have folded.

The question I put to you is how much did the doping really bother fans when they were watching?

Some more than others no doubt. Ultimately cyclings a relative sport, so the difference between riding at 55kph and 50kph is not really noticeable.

It's not ideal, but boring racing and the fact races need to be 4-7 hours each day, is a bigger hindrance to its popularity. That puts a limit on it. (I don't mind - I like that and regularly wish races were longer, but I'm the outlier).

If people were really bothered by doping they'd be more concerned about football & other popular sports than they are.

surrey_commuter

Rick Chasey wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

I freely concede I may be missing the joke but how about the fact that he is a drugs cheat. If he and his ilk were treated with the contempt they deserve then the sport would have proper sponsors and wages.

The fact that each drugs cheat is happily accepted back by sponsors and the peloton tells you that at best they see them as doing nothing wrong.

Given how rife it was, if you treated all dopers like that the sport would have folded.

The question I put to you is how much did the doping really bother fans when they were watching?

Some more than others no doubt. Ultimately cyclings a relative sport, so the difference between riding at 55kph and 50kph is not really noticeable.

It's not ideal, but boring racing and the fact races need to be 4-7 hours each day, is a bigger hindrance to its popularity. That puts a limit on it. (I don't mind - I like that and regularly wish races were longer, but I'm the outlier).

If people were really bothered by doping they'd be more concerned about football & other popular sports than they are.

I would say the equivalent in team sports is match fixing which they go to great lengths to stamp out. Even so commentators will openly discuss the validity of Pakistan's cricket performances.

rick_chasey

Did it stop you watching?

Races being bought & sold used to happen a lot too.

surrey_commuter

Pinno wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FF. I'm a big fan of contador, dopage or no dopage.

Rides with pride, looks good on a bike the best stage racer of the last 20 years. Whats not to like?

I freely concede I may be missing the joke but how about the fact that he is a drugs cheat. If he and his ilk were treated with the contempt they deserve then the sport would have proper sponsors and wages.

The fact that each drugs cheat is happily accepted back by sponsors and the peloton tells you that at best they see them as doing nothing wrong.

Well, if you're going to down that line, why not wipe all the records off every professional from way back in the day when it was acceptable (1930's and even viewed as 'innovative') right up until the Dopestrong scandal kicked off?

Museeuw, Tom Simpson, Pantani, Virenque, Farrar...

Contador served his ban and therefore you have to accept the UCI's decision making process. I might have guessed the holier-than-thou Surrey commuter would have taken that line.

So there. That's it, i've said it. That'll put an end to this luvvy duvvy 'Brackateers and Cake stoppers shack up with the Pro Racer boys' sh1t. :roll:

...and besides, there's little doubt in my mind that Wiggo pushed the TUE boundaries. It was legal but arguably immoral.

Bit personal - you need to take responsibility for your own actions - blaming me will achieve nothing.

I have a consistent line with crime and punishment which is disproportionate sentencing to discourage the others

Paul 8v

Above The Cows wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

Not everyone agreed with him but the world would be a boring place if everyone thought the same thing. The photos he used to post were great and he loves racing. Frenchie was all about the panache.

Plus he was the greatest sign maker of his generation. Let us not forget that.

I never worked out if that was actually him or not. :-)

Matthewfalle

We don't know if what Belgian Brad did was legal because we don't yet know what he actually did ......

pinno

Judging by the crowds at the major cycling events, it's pretty popular. Do you/we want it to be more popular and in the realms of footballers/golfers wages? I don't. In that event, the use of drugs and the temptation to would probably rise.

[I suppose I am agreeing with RC? farq me!]

rick_chasey

Not like you to be relativist pinno

Garry H

Paul 8v wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

Paul 8v wrote:

Not everyone agreed with him but the world would be a boring place if everyone thought the same thing. The photos he used to post were great and he loves racing. Frenchie was all about the panache.

Plus he was the greatest sign maker of his generation. Let us not forget that.

I never worked out if that was actually him or not. :-)

Looks like there's two people holding up the sign. The one in front is wearing funny trews. I bet that's him.

Matthewfalle

Is that snow on the road? If so bloke playing Daddy behind in just a shirt is well 'rad.

rick_chasey

Matthewfalle wrote:

Is that snow on the road? If so bloke playing Daddy behind in just a shirt is well 'rad.

Was stage 3 of the 2015 TdF IIRC.