How ironic is this?

briantrumpet

Brakeless wrote:

Sutton Rider wrote:

b. 1998 wrote:

It's also ironic that despite them cycling in a group, they still avg like 17 mph.

Their either avg 17 mph or their not, What is like 17 mph?

That's quite good on a thread about irony. Did you mean 'They're' ?

Actually, I think what the young chap really means, is:

"It's also ironic that despite their riding in a group, they still average only 17mph.

Never miss the chance of a good gerund, I say, even if you are only 12 going on 18. And I think you'll find that the "like" is a way that today's young people express an element of surprise about a fact, when they aren't in a trance brought on by listening to 'popular music' played by some beat combo.

cougie

Yeah school.

Try working a job and having family stuff to do. Youll never have more free time than at school.

Clubs dont go flat out. Theyll also be riding considerably further than you.

imposter2.0

b. 1998 wrote:

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

http://www.trophystore.co.uk/gold-and-y ... trophy-9cm

First.Aspect

b. 1998 wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

But on another thread you (the OP) posted a link to a strava ride of 26 miles in an hour and a half, somewhere pancake flat. Not quite pro just yet. I can average 17mph on rough Scottish roads in high winds with hills thrown in, after a 50 hour week at work, and I'm 43. You suck.

Besides, you are 18. Come back when you are 36, and let us know whether you want to spend Saturday mornings on a hammerfest, or something more social.

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

And?

Brakeless

b. 1998 wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

But on another thread you (the OP) posted a link to a strava ride of 26 miles in an hour and a half, somewhere pancake flat. Not quite pro just yet. I can average 17mph on rough Scottish roads in high winds with hills thrown in, after a 50 hour week at work, and I'm 43. You suck.

Besides, you are 18. Come back when you are 36, and let us know whether you want to spend Saturday mornings on a hammerfest, or something more social.

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

Why don't you give us some links to a few of your 20mph+ rides then.

Midlands Grimpeur

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are a young bloke new to cycling who is trying to improve whilst trying a bit too hard to impress and answer accordingly. Yes, averaging 18.5mph for a 2 hour ride for someone relatively new to cycling is not bad. As other forum members have pointed out though that is a only a fragment of the overall picture as to how fit you are. A lad from my local club is a year older than you and over in Belgium on a cycling scholarship and just about to turn pro. His base training rides are around 150km long at a speed of 22-24 mph. You posted about being good enough to turn pro and the simple fact is that at present you are no where near that level. Looking at your (albeit limited) data your quick rides are around 60-90 mins with a HR in the 170's which suggests (and I could be wrong) they are threshold. Compared to experienced riders your age your fitness is well below theirs, and in truth there will be many forum members who are significantly fitter and faster than you also.

I am not saying this to patronise or disparage you but to point out that you are starting out and still have a long way to go. There are lots of riders on this forum who ride/have ridden at a good level who will be happy to help you with good advice which will enable you to improve and get fitter if you approach things in the right manner. However, if you carry on with the cocky approach the responses will be pretty much what you are getting now.

b. 1998

Brakeless wrote:

b. 1998 wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

But on another thread you (the OP) posted a link to a strava ride of 26 miles in an hour and a half, somewhere pancake flat. Not quite pro just yet. I can average 17mph on rough Scottish roads in high winds with hills thrown in, after a 50 hour week at work, and I'm 43. You suck.

Besides, you are 18. Come back when you are 36, and let us know whether you want to spend Saturday mornings on a hammerfest, or something more social.

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

Why don't you give us some links to a few of your 20mph+ rides then.

https://www.strava.com/activities/70817 ... 1483313702

Brakeless

b. 1998 wrote:

Brakeless wrote:

b. 1998 wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

But on another thread you (the OP) posted a link to a strava ride of 26 miles in an hour and a half, somewhere pancake flat. Not quite pro just yet. I can average 17mph on rough Scottish roads in high winds with hills thrown in, after a 50 hour week at work, and I'm 43. You suck.

Besides, you are 18. Come back when you are 36, and let us know whether you want to spend Saturday mornings on a hammerfest, or something more social.

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

Why don't you give us some links to a few of your 20mph+ rides then.

https://www.strava.com/activities/70817 ... 1483313702

How about a few. One flat 20 mile 20mph ride is no big deal at all.

b. 1998

Brakeless wrote:

b. 1998 wrote:

Brakeless wrote:

b. 1998 wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

But on another thread you (the OP) posted a link to a strava ride of 26 miles in an hour and a half, somewhere pancake flat. Not quite pro just yet. I can average 17mph on rough Scottish roads in high winds with hills thrown in, after a 50 hour week at work, and I'm 43. You suck.

Besides, you are 18. Come back when you are 36, and let us know whether you want to spend Saturday mornings on a hammerfest, or something more social.

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

Why don't you give us some links to a few of your 20mph+ rides then.

https://www.strava.com/activities/70817 ... 1483313702

How about a few. One flat 20 mile 20mph ride is no big deal at all.

https://www.strava.com/activities/70117 ... 1483314612
https://www.strava.com/activities/69534 ... 1483314559

I train to power. Cant do much hilly rides when i live in SE UK. I could easily adapt if i moved to somewhere mountainy

imposter2.0

b. 1998 wrote:

https://www.strava.com/activities/701172967/shareable_images/map_based?hl=en-GB&v=1483314612
https://www.strava.com/activities/69534 ... 1483314559

I train to power. Cant do much hilly rides when i live in SE UK. I could easily adapt if i moved to somewhere mountainy

Average 4th cat pace on a flat route. Like I said earlier, sit back down mate. It really is nothing to get excited about.

andcp

Jay, you're just not that good. Have a look at this young man who is fairly local to me, Sam Walsham. I believe Sam was born in 2000 and will be a first year junior next year. He also suffers from a debilitating illness, Mitochondrial Myopathy (Google it)
This was Sams last ride (albeit a big gay group ride): https://www.strava.com/activities/816745679
Notice the total distance is much greater than yours, the total climbing is much greater than yours and the average speed is much greater that yours. Lets face it, you're nowhere near as good and never will be.
Also, as evidenced by your responses on here, and in the comments in this ride https://www.strava.com/activities/709113892 you really are a foul individual and the sooner you are gone from this forum the better.

Happy New Year.

b. 1998

Andcp wrote:

Jay, you're just not that good. Have a look at this young man who is fairly local to me, Sam Walsham. I believe Sam was born in 2000 and will be a first year junior next year. He also suffers from a debilitating illness, Mitochondrial Myopathy (Google it)
This was Sams last ride (albeit a big gay group ride): https://www.strava.com/activities/816745679
Notice the total distance is much greater than yours, the total climbing is much greater than yours and the average speed is much greater that yours. Lets face it, you're nowhere near as good and never will be.
Also, as evidenced by your responses on here, and in the comments in this ride https://www.strava.com/activities/709113892 you really are a foul individual and the sooner you are gone from this forum the better.

Happy New Year.

19mph in a group is more like 17mph solo so mines technically faster than his.

First.Aspect

b. 1998 wrote:

https://www.strava.com/activities/701172967/shareable_images/map_based?hl=en-GB&v=1483314612
https://www.strava.com/activities/69534 ... 1483314559

I train to power. Cant do much hilly rides when i live in SE UK. I could easily adapt if i moved to somewhere mountainy

Firstly, its "mountainous", and secondly, how do you know?

I love that your longest ever ride is 56 miles. There's just such a gulf between your experience and your opinions. Please continue posting. It helps pass slow-news days.

b. 1998

Andcp wrote:

Jay, you're just not that good. Have a look at this young man who is fairly local to me, Sam Walsham. I believe Sam was born in 2000 and will be a first year junior next year. He also suffers from a debilitating illness, Mitochondrial Myopathy (Google it)
This was Sams last ride (albeit a big gay group ride): https://www.strava.com/activities/816745679
Notice the total distance is much greater than yours, the total climbing is much greater than yours and the average speed is much greater that yours. Lets face it, you're nowhere near as good and never will be.
Also, as evidenced by your responses on here, and in the comments in this ride https://www.strava.com/activities/709113892 you really are a foul individual and the sooner you are gone from this forum the better.

Happy New Year.

That guy is 16. Fair play to him but he is extremely stupid for ditching school for cycling when he will likely not become a pro. I know many professional young riders (23/23/24), who are still in university.

First.Aspect

b. 1998 wrote:

Andcp wrote:

Jay, you're just not that good. Have a look at this young man who is fairly local to me, Sam Walsham. I believe Sam was born in 2000 and will be a first year junior next year. He also suffers from a debilitating illness, Mitochondrial Myopathy (Google it)
This was Sams last ride (albeit a big gay group ride): https://www.strava.com/activities/816745679
Notice the total distance is much greater than yours, the total climbing is much greater than yours and the average speed is much greater that yours. Lets face it, you're nowhere near as good and never will be.
Also, as evidenced by your responses on here, and in the comments in this ride https://www.strava.com/activities/709113892 you really are a foul individual and the sooner you are gone from this forum the better.

Happy New Year.

That guy is 16. Fair play to him but he is extremely stupid for ditching school for cycling when he will likely not become a pro. I know many professional young riders (23/23/24), who are still in university.

Can any of them install a bottle cage without (a) needing help from an internet forum to undo the bolt and (b) putting on the wrong way up?

dennisn

b. 1998 wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

But on another thread you (the OP) posted a link to a strava ride of 26 miles in an hour and a half, somewhere pancake flat. Not quite pro just yet. I can average 17mph on rough Scottish roads in high winds with hills thrown in, after a 50 hour week at work, and I'm 43. You suck.

Besides, you are 18. Come back when you are 36, and let us know whether you want to spend Saturday mornings on a hammerfest, or something more social.

Look at my strava overview. Ive been out for 10 weeks because of school and ive just gotten back so my pace is slower but it's increasing with every ride. I averaged 18.5mph on my recent ride. When fit, i average 20+ mph

You do realize, of course, that very, very few people care how fast you ride?

andcp

b. 1998 wrote:

That guy is 16. Fair play to him but he is extremely stupid for ditching school for cycling when he will likely not become a pro.

He did ditch school, but he's now at college...as for not turning pro, you might want to check his pedigree before making such assumptions

b. 1998 wrote:

I know many professional young riders (23/23/24), who are still in university.

Name them

mac9091

What a wee wanker (LOL just noticed that the w word is replaced for rubber ). Can toss pots like this not just be banned for the hell of it?

At what point did you do a 200 mile ride?

18 year old gob shite.

daniel_b

slowmart

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griffsters

To provide you some perspective.

On your longest ride of 52 miles with 1419ft of elevation you averaged 17.1mph. This compares (ballpark) with what i'd be expecting on an average day when not really at my peak, i'm a mid 40's former morbidly obese weekend warrior.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are young, cocky and enthusiastic but the best thing you can do right now regarding your cycling is to take a reality check. Then try and structure your training, join a good club and listen to what others have to say. Get a racing licence, do some crits and test yourself against your peers. Embrace the culture, you might enjoy it! See where it leads.

You won't make worthwhile progress with your current mindset.

marcusjb

Griffsters wrote:

You won't make worthwhile progress with your current mindset.

This is applicable to more than just your cycling.

kingstongraham

b. 1998 wrote:

https://www.strava.com/activities/70117 ... 1483314612
https://www.strava.com/activities/69534 ... 1483314559

I train to power. Cant do much hilly rides when i live in SE UK. I could easily adapt if i moved to somewhere mountainy

Is that 239 watts average over an hour trying your hardest? What is that per kilo?

b. 1998

KingstonGraham wrote:

b. 1998 wrote:

https://www.strava.com/activities/70117 ... 1483314612
https://www.strava.com/activities/69534 ... 1483314559

I train to power. Cant do much hilly rides when i live in SE UK. I could easily adapt if i moved to somewhere mountainy

Is that 239 watts average over an hour trying your hardest? What is that per kilo?

No. I could do over 300W over an hour if im giving full gas but constantly being stopped by traffic lights kills my mental momentum. That'll be 4w kg^-1 and a bit.

First.Aspect

b. 1998 wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

b. 1998 wrote:

https://www.strava.com/activities/70117 ... 1483314612
https://www.strava.com/activities/69534 ... 1483314559

I train to power. Cant do much hilly rides when i live in SE UK. I could easily adapt if i moved to somewhere mountainy

Is that 239 watts average over an hour trying your hardest? What is that per kilo?

No. I could do over 300W over an hour if im giving full gas but constantly being stopped by traffic lights kills my mental momentum. That'll be 4w kg^-1 and a bit.

The problem appears to be the second hour and the third hour. Only you won't know that just yet. It is hard to believe, I know, but going for longer rides means you go slower.

simon_masterson

Andcp wrote:

Jay, you're just not that good. Have a look at this young man who is fairly local to me, Sam Walsham. I believe Sam was born in 2000 and will be a first year junior next year. He also suffers from a debilitating illness, Mitochondrial Myopathy (Google it)
This was Sams last ride (albeit a big gay group ride): https://www.strava.com/activities/816745679
Notice the total distance is much greater than yours, the total climbing is much greater than yours and the average speed is much greater that yours. Lets face it, you're nowhere near as good and never will be.
Also, as evidenced by your responses on here, and in the comments in this ride https://www.strava.com/activities/709113892 you really are a foul individual and the sooner you are gone from this forum the better.

Happy New Year.

Wow.

Tell us more about the training you've done with Dowsett.

Frank Wilson

Fairly easy to see why the OP is a solo rider.

b. 1998

Simon Masterson wrote:

Andcp wrote:

Jay, you're just not that good. Have a look at this young man who is fairly local to me, Sam Walsham. I believe Sam was born in 2000 and will be a first year junior next year. He also suffers from a debilitating illness, Mitochondrial Myopathy (Google it)
This was Sams last ride (albeit a big gay group ride): https://www.strava.com/activities/816745679
Notice the total distance is much greater than yours, the total climbing is much greater than yours and the average speed is much greater that yours. Lets face it, you're nowhere near as good and never will be.
Also, as evidenced by your responses on here, and in the comments in this ride https://www.strava.com/activities/709113892 you really are a foul individual and the sooner you are gone from this forum the better.

Happy New Year.

Wow.

Tell us more about the training you've done with Dowsett.

Check his activity in June, i went on a 2.5h ride with him and some other people

bendertherobot

3 pages of how fast are we/me? Come on.

The real problem here is the overt claim that there's anything wrong with cake.

Cake is why we ride. There is only cake.

Also, irony. Can we explore that? Is this rain on your wedding day type irony or something else?

bernithebiker

Andcp wrote:

Also, as evidenced by your responses on here, and in the comments in this ride https://www.strava.com/activities/709113892 you really are a foul individual and the sooner you are gone from this forum the better.

Happy New Year.

i think this says it all really.