SPOTY 2016
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You must really hate Bob Dylan then. That was a bloody Nobel prize, not some light entertainment TV show.FocusZing wrote:^Ha!
I'm glad he won brilliant year and achievement. Like you said though, he has been at it once in five years.
It grips my sh1t when people don't turn up for awards, especially when it's the fans of your country voting.Twitter: @RichN950 -
full results, surprised at the gap between 3rd and 4th, are there lots of equestrian fans out there ?
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Stop me if this has been mooted before, but I was thinking that cycling had been stitched up by the BBC with all those cyclists to split the vote (until I saw the votes cast).
But Andy Murray? For Pete's sake give the award to someone who looks grateful to receive it at least. Folks should know this from the last time.
Bet his holiday snaps are a gas, "c'mon, smile Andrew!"Adrian W.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
You must really hate Bob Dylan then. That was a bloody Nobel prize, not some light entertainment TV show.FocusZing wrote:^Ha!
I'm glad he won brilliant year and achievement. Like you said though, he has been at it once in five years.
It grips my sh1t when people don't turn up for awards, especially when it's the fans of your country voting.
Nah! I wouldn't turn up either, to some jumped up blokes posthumous dynamite party.0 -
I would guess that there's a big cross over between people who watch Wimbledon and people who vote on TV shows.Adrian Waine wrote:Stop me if this has been mooted before, but I was thinking that cycling had been stitched up by the BBC with all those cyclists to split the vote (until I saw the votes cast).
But Andy Murray? For Pete's sake give the award to someone who looks grateful to receive it at least. Folks should know this from the last time.
Bet his holiday snaps are a gas, "c'mon, smile Andrew!"Twitter: @RichN950 -
Paddy Power already have odds up for 2017:
9/4 Anthony Joshua
9/2 Andy Murray
8/1 Lewis Hamilton
10/1 Chris Froome, Rory McIlroy
12/1 Katerina Johnson-Thompson
16/1 Joe Root
20/1 Mauro Itoje
33/1 Ben Stokes
40/1 Mo Farah, Dina Asher Smith, Alastair Cook
Interestingly only three of this year's 16 in that lot.
I think Murray will win again, but for an outside bet I'd go for Ben Ainslie (who isn't listed at all)Twitter: @RichN950 -
Adrian Waine wrote:Stop me if this has been mooted before, but I was thinking that cycling had been stitched up by the BBC with all those cyclists to split the vote (until I saw the votes cast).
But Andy Murray? For Pete's sake give the award to someone who looks grateful to receive it at least. Folks should know this from the last time.
Bet his holiday snaps are a gas, "c'mon, smile Andrew!"
Probably because it's a complete waste of space. It'd be like expecting Fred Astaire to be chuffed if he won Strictly. The BBC hype it up but I doubt the athletes themselves give a toss.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Still think Wales should have won it over Leicester, for obvious reasons.
What are the obvious reasons?
People will talk about Leicester's season years from now. Wales (not to belittle the achievement too much) got to the semi-final of a fairly mediocre tournament.RichN95 wrote:odds up for 2017:
9/4 Anthony Joshua
9/2 Andy Murray
8/1 Lewis Hamilton
10/1 Chris Froome, Rory McIlroy
12/1 Katerina Johnson-Thompson
16/1 Joe Root
20/1 Mauro Itoje
33/1 Ben Stokes
40/1 Mo Farah, Dina Asher Smith, Alastair Cook
Interestingly only three of this year's 16 in that lot.
I think Murray will win again, but for an outside bet I'd go for Ben Ainslie (who isn't listed at all)
Maybe value to be had betting for SPOTY as a proxy for bets on the actual sport.
What for example are the odds on Hamilton winning the F1 title compared to 8/1 for SPOTY
If you know what you're doing.
Which I don't
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Still think Wales should have won it over Leicester, for obvious reasons.
What are the obvious reasons?
People will talk about Leicester's season years from now. Wales (not to belittle the achievement too much) got to the semi-final of a fairly mediocre tournament.
A) It's a team made up entirely of British nationals (at least, the athletes). Isn't that kinda the point of SPOTY? Hence the 'international award'
It was a similar David v Goliath story but on an international scale - and arguably a bigger one, given the difference in pools of talent. 0 -
phreak wrote:Adrian Waine wrote:Stop me if this has been mooted before, but I was thinking that cycling had been stitched up by the BBC with all those cyclists to split the vote (until I saw the votes cast).
But Andy Murray? For Pete's sake give the award to someone who looks grateful to receive it at least. Folks should know this from the last time.
Bet his holiday snaps are a gas, "c'mon, smile Andrew!"
Probably because it's a complete waste of space. It'd be like expecting Fred Astaire to be chuffed if he won Strictly. The BBC hype it up but I doubt the athletes themselves give a toss.
Disagree. I think a lot of them do get a kick out of it.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Still think Wales should have won it over Leicester, for obvious reasons.
What are the obvious reasons?
People will talk about Leicester's season years from now. Wales (not to belittle the achievement too much) got to the semi-final of a fairly mediocre tournament.
A) It's a team made up entirely of British nationals (at least, the athletes). Isn't that kinda the point of SPOTY? Hence the 'international award' It was a similar David v Goliath story but on an international scale - and arguably a bigger one, given the difference in pools of talent.
Can't agree, Leicester winning the Premier league was unimaginable at the start of last season, even at several thousand to one I'd have told you to get lost if you'd suggested I put money on it. If you'd offered me the same odds on Wales reaching the semis of the Euros I'd have snapped your hand off. We've seen it before - Greece won the tournament, Denmark won it after failing to qualify and getting in when Yogoslavia were kicked out - I can't think of another example of an outsider like Leicester winning the top division - maybe Forest in the 1970s (when Derby won it they didn't come out of nowhere so fast) but football was far more egalitarian then and Clough quite rightly is still famous 40 years later.
Wales would have had to win the world cup to top what Leicester did and even that is possibly more likely given the nature of the competition being a cup vs a league.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
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Rick Chasey wrote:A) It's a team made up entirely of British nationals (at least, the athletes). Isn't that kinda the point of SPOTY? Hence the 'international award'
Unless they have changed the eligibility sometime in the last couple of years, the eligibility for the main award is for both UK sports people and those non-UK sports people who play their sport primarily in the UK. So Frankie Detorri and Diego Costa (for instance) would be eligible.
IMO, the Leicester win was a greater team achievement than Wales. Both unexpected, but at the end of the day, when all's said and done, Leicester won something.
The Olympic team maybe more so, maybe team Sky for their consistency in the TdF and first monument win...
There's a lot of sport out there, eh?0 -
Am I right that Andy Murray couldn't be bothered to show up in person to accept the award? Disgraceful etc. etc.0
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KingstonGraham wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:A) It's a team made up entirely of British nationals (at least, the athletes). Isn't that kinda the point of SPOTY? Hence the 'international award'
Unless they have changed the eligibility sometime in the last couple of years, the eligibility for the main award is for both UK sports people and those non-UK sports people who play their sport primarily in the UK. So Frankie Detorri and Diego Costa (for instance) would be eligible.
IMO, the Leicester win was a greater team achievement than Wales. Both unexpected, but at the end of the day, when all's said and done, Leicester won something.
The Olympic team maybe more so, maybe team Sky for their consistency in the TdF and first monument win...
There's a lot of sport out there, eh?
Even as a Welshman I think Leicester's was the greater achievement. It required consistency over a much longer time and arguably against higher quality opposition. It's also interesting to note that neither team looks like building on the success.0 -
Is this being rechristened the Sports Homeopathic Personality of the Year award now he's won it for a record number of times?0
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Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
Surely you can't win an award if you don't show up in person... and yes, I'm looking at you Bob...0 -
dish_dash wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
Surely you can't win an award if you don't show up in person... and yes, I'm looking at you Bob...
Do you need a note from yer ma?0 -
On this, the office has picked up on my "Tennis is an A list sport"
Has started a debate on what counts as an A/B or C list sport.
Anyone want to venture their ideas before i put down my own?0 -
A: football, rugby (yawnion), tennis, horse racing and possibly golf. Athletics in an olympic year.
B: cricket, rugby (league), cycling (only track or ex GB track riders), athletics, boxing, Olympic sports (jumping and all that crap).
C: everything else0 -
Crowd sourced in my office...
A: Rugby, Cricket, Cycling, Basketball,
B: Athletics, Horse Racing, Tennis,
C: Swimming, Figure Skating, America's Cup, Rowing,
Football, F1, Golf, Table Tennis, Boxing, MotoGP
E: Hockey, Snooker, Darts0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:On this, the office has picked up on my "Tennis is an A list sport"
Has started a debate on what counts as an A/B or C list sport.
Anyone want to venture their ideas before i put down my own?
In this country, Tennis is not A-List, Wimbledon is.0 -
TheBigBean wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:On this, the office has picked up on my "Tennis is an A list sport"
Has started a debate on what counts as an A/B or C list sport.
Anyone want to venture their ideas before i put down my own?
In this country, Tennis is not A-List, Wimbledon is.
It's called Lawn Tennis for a reason... if it ain't on grass, it ain't right...0 -
TheBigBean wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:On this, the office has picked up on my "Tennis is an A list sport"
Has started a debate on what counts as an A/B or C list sport.
Anyone want to venture their ideas before i put down my own?
In this country, Tennis is not A-List, Wimbledon is.
Interesting take - the level of competition from around the world and the depth of the talent base for me is a key component for the listing.0 -
Rick, this is meant to be what the individual considers A/B/C list sports, rather than how the Great British Public™ regard them, right?0
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Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Rick, this is meant to be what the individual considers A/B/C list sports, rather than how the Great British Public™ regard them, right?
It's just "What is A list, B list and C list"
I don't normally set out the terms of debates in the office before they kick off.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Rick, this is meant to be what the individual considers A/B/C list sports, rather than how the Great British Public™ regard them, right?
It's just "What is A list, B list and C list"
I don't normally set out the terms of debates in the office before they kick off.
OOOOOOHHHHH0 -
Football is the only A list sport.
Other sports have A-list events - Olympics, Lions, Ashes, Tour de France, Wimbledon, Ryder Cup etc.
I would suggest that the UK's A-list sportsmen are currently Murray, Bale, Hamilton, Froome, Farah and McIlroy.Twitter: @RichN950
